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[Drowbe]

I've seen a ton of messages about Smartlists, iTunes and the like as of late.  MediaCenter does just about everything I want expect for one thing -- it can't build playlists based on mood.  Actually, let me qualify that by saying it can't do that without a ton of customization to your tags and a ton more of data entry.

A loooong time ago I tried MoodLogic.  It assigns (or allows you to assign) moods to music.  With a few sliders and check lists it does a pretty decent job of building you a playlist based on whatever mood you've *selected*.  Too bad the interface is so annoying.

The reason I bring this up is that they just opened up their database so developers can build support or plugins into their products that use the moodlogic data/tools.  This would be a fantastic addition to MC.  If anyone cares, here is the URL:

http://www.moodlogic.com/developers.html

I considered posting this in the plugin area, but it seemed it might fit core functionality more than a plugin.

Just a thought.

[hit_ny]

It seems interesting ..so i had a look at thier forums, specifically the

song profiling one http://forums.moodlogic.net/forum.jsp?forum=9&start=45&thRange=15

it seems for every x tracks you profile they give you x tracks of profiles done by others. I think the initial quota is 10,000 tracks after you buy the product moodlogic.

seems like moodlogic should be the party making the plugin since they stand to benfit from it.

JRiver could create a similar database where ppl submitted thier own ratings to songs, and then allow users to see how tracks have been rated by others.

i thought about this idea and felt there is a fundamental falw with it. people that like certain genres more are bound to rate them more than others, giving the hig stars effect u see on amazon. While it may be a high rating for some ppl it might not be that good for others.

<SIGH> seems like this rating thing is just too subjective to be useful, unless the system could match you with ppl that have similar collections and tastes and reflect that in whatever albums one is cheking up on. WHich in effect means diff ratings given to albums depending on what ever your collection is and how you rated them.

Mood is something im just beginning to play with .would like to know what other ppl have done so far on this.

[Drowbe]

Actually, it seemed to work pretty well.  I takes quite a few people to sway the mood.  Ofcourse, you could override the mood setting locally, but I rarely had to do so...

[drosoph]

Don't the MMJB settings have a tag called "MOOD" ...
I bet someone could make a plugin (*cough* KING) that allows people to submit MMJB settings to a central database and allows you to query and update files from that database ...

Sounds like a decent idea ... I don't know if I would particularly use it though ...

[modelmaker]

I used MOOD in th ol' MMJB days a lot more than I ever used GENREs.

I, would certainly like to see a plugin developed.

[_K_C_]

I used to use it as well.  I never liked the front end much, but the tempo and mood tagging seemed to work quite well.  The number of submissions for any one track must even out the accuracy of the classification.

I stopped using it when I reripped my CDs to .ape - it only supported mp3s at the time.

I don't have the time - ok the patience! - to manually tag each track for mood, so would love for some automation of this within MC, whether it's via MoodLogic or a separate solution.

[Sam]

I tried MoodLogic a while back.  I found that the Mood tool was interesting, but not useful to me.  The labels are "Aggressive," Upbeat," "Happy," Romantic," and "Sad."  I don't really think about music in those terms.

The feature I loved was Instant Mix.  You pick a song, and it builds a playlist around it based on how other people made playlists with that song.  You can control the size of the playlist and how tightly it should stick with that first song.

These tools, I think, rely on people's categorization or grouping of songs, and not on their ratings.

[Drowbe]

Since I paid for it way back when, I installed it.  It took about 4 hours to go through my music (20,000+) and found matches for about 14,000 of them...not that I am going to profile the other 6,000, but it does a nice job of building mixes.  I was quit happy with the lists it built for me...different than what I would have put, but that is kinda the point.  Sent the playlist right to MC.

I just might work this up as a plugin.

[hit_ny]

just might work this up as a plugin.

Go for it

i am curious what criteria it uses to decide whether a track is mixable or not.

[lOth]

Sounds interesting. Before I get started with doing that manually: bump...

[Drowbe]

I've gotten too busy to build this plugin.  I don't suppose anyone else would want to give it a shot...?  Pretty please...