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[sbrutocao]

I bought Media Jukebox 8.0, upgraded to 8.0.4, and then upgraded to Media Center 9.1.  I have always had a Windows 98 OS.  MJ was always a little unstable, but since I have downloaded 9.1 I have been unable to rip even a single song.  Every time I try, the program performs an "illegal operation" and shuts down.  Is there anything that can be done, or can Windows 98 just not run MC 9.1?  I have copied and pasted below my System Info from the Help file of MC 9.1:

Media Center Registered 9.1.316 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\

Microsoft Windows 98 SE
Intel Pentium II 348 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 196 MB, Free - 82 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.81 / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1276 / Shell32.dll: 4.72.3812.600 / wnaspi32.dll: 4.60 (1017) , ASPI for Win32 (95/NT) DLL, Copyright © 1989-1998 Adaptec, Inc. / Aspi32.sys: N/A

Ripping /   Drive F:   Copy mode:Normal   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
  Drive G:   Copy mode:Normal   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
  Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
  Eject after ripping: No /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive F: HP       CD-Writer+ 9200    Addr: 0:6:0  Speed:8  MaxSpeed:8  BurnProof:No
  Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: No /  Write CD-Text: No
  Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None

[pat1066]

Was OK for me though not exactly rock-like
I have ASPI version 4.6 (1021) if that makes any difference.
I got the update site from searching this forum.

Media Center Registered 10.0.27 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows 98 SE
Intel Pentium III 550 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 392 MB, Free - 231 MB
Resource Info: System - 57 %, GDI - 72 %, User - 57 %

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.81 / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1276 / Shell32.dll: 4.72.3812.600 / wnaspi32.dll: 4.60 (1021) , ASPI for Win32 (95/NT) DLL, Copyright © 1989-1999 Adaptec, Inc. / Aspi32.sys: N/A

Ripping /   Drive V:   Copy mode:Normal   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
  Drive W:   Copy mode:Normal   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
  Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: No /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
  Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: Yes  Soundfile:   C:\WINDOWS\MEDIA\Jungle Exclamation.wav

Burning /  Drive W: HP       CD-Writer+ 8100    Addr: 0:1:0  Speed:4  MaxSpeed:4  BurnProof:No
  Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: No /  Write CD-Text: No
  Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None

[KingSparta]

Buy A New Computer, That Should Fix It

Windows 98 Is really not all that stable, and the skining may make old video cards brake down and cry.

updating the video board driver may help, but i would not count on it

[LisaRCT]

Buy A New Computer, That Should Fix It

Are you offering to send one??  

[KingSparta]

Sorry I gave away my 550mhz back in 1999, and my 700 Mhz computer in 2002, and my 1.8ghz (to my wife) in 2003

[Nico Meijers]

to KingSparta

I don't want to participate in the PC-race, and I'm sure there are a lot of people like me.
I hope MC10 will be a lot more stable under Windows 98. Is this issue considered in the development of MC10?

thanks
Nico

[JimH]

to KingSparta

I don't want to participate in the PC-race, and I'm sure there are a lot of people like me.
I hope MC10 will be a lot more stable under Windows 98. Is this issue considered in the development of MC10?

A lot of debugging time was spent on Win98.  It should be fine.

[KingSparta]

I don't want to participate in the PC-race

It is not quite a race, and I understand most people can't run out and buy a new PC each year but there comes a time when new software will not work on old hardware.

I am sure you will not have any better luck on the un-stable win98 platform with newer versions of Media Center to include other software.

A computer that is 3-4 years old is out dated (to include the OS) and should hit the trash can as more and more software will not run on it. This is even more so if the software uses graphics and skins as Media Center now does all the time.

Companies can not continue or be expected to support old computers and Os's forever just because a few users refuse or can not upgrade to a newer computer that is somewhat up to date with today’s technology.

It is not a race it's just another fact of life.

[nigels]

In a real life situation, yes I can just about keep up with the 'race', but I expect to be able to hand down my older computers to my wife and children.
I also expect them to be able to be able to access the music, after all, that is why you include the server part.
So I am running a fairly modern system, but I am surrounded by lesser systems.
I expected the Media Center to accomodate this. (to be the centre for my media !)
I do not expect 3D visualisations on the lesser computers, but I expect access to the music.
Are my expectations wrong ?
I have one system I am configuring right now, it is a 266 MHz P4.
From my initial tests, with Windows 2000, the response time is unacceptable.
I am about to try it with Windows 98.
Maybe it is not the opperating system I should be reviewing. If I use Windows media player across the network, the response time is acceptable.
You talk about skins etc, I just want to be able to play the music !
Surly you can provide a less CPU/system intensive solution that acknowleges and caters for this real life situation.

[JimH]

Your CPU is old, but memory may also be a factor.  512MB for Win2000 would be nice.

If you ask around, you might find very inexpensive 1Ghz machines that are being replaced.

Unfortunately, we won't do anything to optimize for older machines.  We need to spend our time being prepared for what comes next.  As it is, we're expected to be able to run with an extremely wide variety of hardware and OS's.

Good luck with your trials.