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Skeptikus

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VBR does not play properly
« on: January 23, 2004, 06:02:47 pm »

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Can you start a thread on this?  I don't think this is a bug.

Situation is that a RealOne and Nero, just two examples, play VBR 192 - The album is Quantic, The 5th Exotic - without a glitch.
MC (version 8, 9, 10) does not, i.e. the beats sound like on the verge of a heart attack (sorry for this metaphor).

 
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Re:VBR does not play properly
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2004, 09:58:50 pm »

What format? Where did the files come from? What software was used to encode the files?

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VBR 192

Not sure what you mean by this. Generally a file is either VBR or it is CBR (constant bitrate), like 192kbps. 80-90% of my library is VBR files in various formats and I have no problems playing them in MC10.

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Skeptikus

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Re:VBR does not play properly
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2004, 01:00:47 am »

I used RealOne.
VBR 192 means ~192: Real calls this average Bitrate.
(Usually I use Real for mp3 encodings, MC for ogg.)

I "saved the tracks" (Real) from my CD to PC with Real's VBR ~192.

Uploading the file (5MB) to this forum would probably be against forum rules, let alone, hm, illegal?
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Re:VBR does not play properly
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2004, 03:40:02 am »

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Real calls this average Bitrate.

Oh. That's what I thought everyone called it (ABR for short). That's why I was confused when you said VBR.

Anyway, did you disable Real's drm/copy protection (assuming it has an option to disable it) when you ripped the tracks? I suppose there might be a possibility that it could cause playback problems.

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Re:VBR does not play properly
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2004, 04:06:55 am »

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Anyway, did you disable Real's drm/copy protection (assuming it has an option to disable it) when you ripped the tracks? I suppose there might be a possibility that it could cause playback problems.

The CD was/is not protected, I can play the file on my mobile phone, so I assume no drm/cp.
I'm gonna rip it again, with MC and with Real, and check.

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Skeptikus

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Re:VBR does not play properly
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2004, 05:59:08 am »

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I'm gonna rip it again, with MC and with Real, and check.

I ripped it again. (BTW MC plays the CD correctly).
Ripper: Real,
   VBR/ABR 192 and 160
   Real, Nero play them ok, MC doesn't, at both rates
   mp3utility detects a sync error in the 192, but not the 160, anyway
   since MC stumbles irrespective of the rate I don't know what
   to make of that.

Ripper: MC
   VBR high
   MC plays it fine, Real, Nero too.

But now the strange bit. As a baseline I ripped at constant BR 192 and 160 respectively, no errors according to mp3util. SAME results, i.e. MC stumbles, the other players don't (2 on my PC, 2 on my phone).

Is it time to give up?
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Re:VBR does not play properly
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2004, 03:02:42 pm »

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The CD was/is not protected

I wasn't talking about copy protection on the cd. Real maybe/probably has an option to enable/disable copy protection that is added during encoding. However, it sounds like this probably isn't the problem.

Try posting your system info (Help/System Info), maybe someone will see something there that could be causing problems for you.

Rob
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Re:VBR does not play properly
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2004, 03:59:47 pm »

That sounds like a non-standard format.  Can you play the files with any other player?
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Skeptikus

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Re:VBR does not play properly
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2004, 07:38:22 pm »

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That sounds like a non-standard format.  Can you play the files with any other player?

Yes: realOne, Windows Media Player, Nero Media, Nero Wave editor, Foobar2000, Unrealplayer (UIQ).

For what it's worth, my system information:

Media Center Registered 10.0.43 -- C:\Programme\Media\J River\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
Intel Pentium 4 1773 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 1047 MB, Free - 639 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1276 / Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1233 (xpsp2.030604-1804) / wnaspi32.dll: 4.60 (1021) , ASPI for Win32 (95/NT) DLL, Copyright © 1989-1999 Adaptec, Inc. / Aspi32.sys: 4.60 (1021)

Ripping /   Drive D:   Copy mode:Normal   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
  Drive E:   Copy mode:Normal   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
  Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
  Eject after ripping: No /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive D: PHILIPS  DVD+RW-D01         Addr: 1:0:0  Speed:12  MaxSpeed:12  BurnProof:No
  Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: No /  Write CD-Text: No
  Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None
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