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What is the highest version of MSXML you have installed?

MSXML
- 0 (0%)
MSXML2
- 0 (0%)
MSXML2 v2.6
- 0 (0%)
MSXML2 v3.0
- 9 (52.9%)
MSXML2 v4.0
- 8 (47.1%)

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IlPadrino

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Poll: MSXML Survey
« on: September 07, 2004, 06:35:21 pm »

I'd really appreciate a bit of help conducting an easy survey:  I'd like to know what is the highest version of MSXML you have installed on your system.  To check for the versions installed, just visit the site http://www.bayes.co.uk/xml/index.xml?/xml/utils/msxml_sniffer.htm using IE.

Thanks!
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Charlemagne 8

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Re:Poll: MSXML Survey
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2004, 08:42:45 pm »

Apparently I have Version 4 of whatever it is ... what is it?
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Michel Lefebvre

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Re:Poll: MSXML Survey
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2004, 08:55:19 pm »

For some really strange reason, V4 will not install on my machine.

M.
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IlPadrino

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Re:Poll: MSXML Survey
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2004, 12:10:47 am »

Apparently I have Version 4 of whatever it is ... what is it?

Sorry!  I should have explained that :-)

MSXML is Microsoft's XML Parser, whcih among other things, lets you do client-side transformations of XML in IE.  I use it to do the Weather Page for Theater View.
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IlPadrino

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Re:Poll: MSXML Survey
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2004, 12:48:54 am »

For some really strange reason, V4 will not install on my machine.

M.

You might try googling on "replace" and "side-by-side" because I thought I had read somewhere that MSXML4 couldn't do one or the other.

I'm not exactly sure what's in MSxML4 that's not in MSXML3, expect for XSD support.  But I think it's probably just safest to use DTDs and be done with it.
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salsbst1

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Re:Poll: MSXML Survey
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2004, 06:53:16 am »

MSXML4 has better XSLT support, which to me is much more important than XSD. <-- wasn't and isn't true, and so struck out.
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Re:Poll: MSXML Survey
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2004, 06:57:22 am »

MSXML is Microsoft's XML Parser, whichh among other things, lets you do client-side transformations of XML in IE.  I use it to do the Weather Page for Theater View.
Which is here:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?board=5;action=display;threadid=23436
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Michel Lefebvre

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Re:Poll: MSXML Survey
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2004, 07:00:55 am »

It now supports any version of MSXML. I'm running it using MSXML 3.

Michel.
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Re:Poll: MSXML Survey
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2004, 09:17:45 am »

it appears i have every version of MSXML (checked) when i visit that page.

Not sure if this is the right answer.
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IlPadrino

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Re:Poll: MSXML Survey
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2004, 09:30:18 am »

MSXML4 has better XSLT support, which to me is much more important than XSD.

I've had some projects not work with MSXML4...  a bug maybe, but not worth the effort of tracking down as they worked fine with MSXML3.  I think the moral is that having them all installed is the safest bet.  But end-users shouldn't have to worry about this!  That's why I used Sarissa ( http://sarissa.sourceforge.net/) for the WatherFeed.

I tried googling on the differences between MSXML3 and MSXML4, but I came up empty.  Off the top of your head, could you tell me what some are?

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salsbst1

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Re:Poll: MSXML Survey
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2004, 09:43:20 am »

Sorry, I think I was wrong.  MSXML3 appears to have all of the XSLT and XPath standards:

http://www.topxml.com/xsl/XPathRef.asp
http://www.topxml.com/xsl/XSLTRef.asp

I was thinking of MSXML2 when I wrote my previous post.  The reason is that my old company went from MSXML2 to 4 in order to avoid the whole 'replace mode' fiasco.

I'll change my post.  Thanks for calling me on it.  It appears that the main advantage of MSXML4 over v3 is speed.  MS claims 4-8x speed up in XSLT processing.

When you say you had some projects not work with MSXML4, that may be because NON standard features of MSXML3 were removed from MSXML4 in order to force people to begin to move toward standards (we see this very, very rarely from Microsoft so we must appreciate the rarity, I guess).

From http://www.eggheadcafe.com/articles/20011102.asp:
"Specifically, the following old, non-conformant technologies have been removed: old XSL with XSLPattern; uuid namespaces for XDR; the proprietary XmlParser object; and the normalize-line-breaks property in SAX. Corresponding standard technologies (XSLT 1.0, XPath 1.0, and http-based namespaces for XDR and SAX2) have been available since MSXML 3.0."
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IlPadrino

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Re:Poll: MSXML Survey
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2004, 09:51:11 am »

Thanks for the explanation Salsbst1...  I appreciated it!
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