Topic: Media Center 11.0.127 Alpha Available (Read 7075 times)

Matt · « **on:** November 12, 2004, 11:33:56 am »

We're still working on Media Center 11. We appreciate your feedback on it, but MC11 may not work as expected and we can't yet fully support it. Some plugins still do not work.

We recommend that you use MC10 below, but if you want to use MC 11 while we're building it, PRICES are here:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=23311

If you want a more trouble-free experience, please download Media Center 10 here:
http://www.musicex.com/mediacenter/download.html

Media Center 11 is available here:
ftp://ftp.jriver.com/pub/downloads/music/MediaCenter110127.exe [see price link above]

Recent Changes

11.0.127 (11/12/04)

1. Fixed: Old format library backups would fail to restore in some cases.

11.0.126 (11/12/04)

1. Fixed: Cover art retrieval after import would try to get art for files that already had art.
2. Fixed: "Build All Thumbnails" option would only build small sized thumbnails.
3. Fixed: Closing MC while tagging was in process could cause problems in some cases.
4. Changed: MC is much more responsive while tagging large numbers of files.
5. Changed: MC is faster to submit and start tagging when making changes to many files.
6. Fixed: Library Sharing Options were mismatched between encoder and bit rate.

11.0.125 (11/11/04)

1. Fixed: Thumbnail views could be slower than expected. (introduced 11.0.124)

11.0.124 (11/11/04)

1. NEW: Updated MP3 encoder to allow easier customization and to use the latest LAME command line switches.
2. Fixed: Tile view would not show / create thumbnails properly.
3. Fixed: Tile view would not always redraw properly when scrolling.

11.0.123 (11/10/04)

1. Fixed: Picking "Edit (by typing)" of some advanced smartlist rules could show a truncated version of the text to edit.
2. Changed: Clicking on Media Library with an empty library will show the import dialog.
3. NEW: Added Sample Rate, Channels, Bit Depth, and Compression to the library for searching / sorting by VBR, compressor version, etc. (use Update Library (from tags) to fill -- not all plugins updated yet)
4. Fixed: Tabbing around the main interface pieces was not working properly.

MC 11 Improvements

CUE file playback support with sample-accurate MP3 seeking
Many Theater View enhancements
Animated Direct3D file browsing
Split views so you can look at two (or more) views at the same time (ex. look at Media Library and Playing Now together)
Vastly improved database engine capable of handling 100,000's of files and large amounts of metadata (lyrics, bios, etc.)
Several memory and speed enhancements -- like database and skin unloading when minimizing MC
Much of MC's interface can be translated to other languages
Integrated database import and update with smart broken linking repairing, and other nice features
MC can run with guest permissions on Windows 2000 / Windows XP
New view customization system with more flexibility for thumbnail size, text, etc.
Options dialogs reworked -- several small options added
Added multi-zone synchronization
Added Album Gain support
Document support with full text searching / indexing
Pane auto-sizing
Tile view that allows fully customizable Track Info style tiles to be used in file lists
New database caching layer that makes a huge speed difference in many areas of MC
File tagging happens in a background thread so MC can continue to be used while it's saving tags
Basic image editing
Enhanced album grouping for pictures so pictures taken together get grouped without any user intervention
Preview mode to only play the intro of songs
Video CD playback support
Audio resampling uses Shibatch's high-quality SSRC filters
Support for ATI HDTV card

risingdamp · « **Reply #1 on:** November 12, 2004, 11:40:44 am »

Quote

When upgrading from MC 10, you will lose your view schemes.

Are there any plans to introduce some sort of view scheme migration tool in the future?

This is a big reason to stop me upgrading since I have lots of view schemes embedded in other view schemes etc - about 60 to 80 in all. It's seems very unusual to see a product upgrade that is not compatible with such a key part of the previous version.

Quixote · « **Reply #2 on:** November 12, 2004, 12:22:44 pm »

I've been using MC for a lot of tagging. One of the things that I find I need the most is a

"Fill Property from Properties" option.

I do not like to change the filename with "Rename Filename from Properties" and then a "Fill Properties From Filename". When I need to combine a couple properties. When I do it this way, I lose punctuation sometimes (i.e. /

The program is getting awesome!

KeystoneCop · « **Reply #3 on:** November 12, 2004, 01:10:41 pm »

after buring an audio cd,and saying print cd label. get the following error

clicked ok and tried again and it worked ok

Matt · « **Reply #4 on:** November 12, 2004, 01:31:57 pm »

Quote from: risingdamp on November 12, 2004, 11:40:44 am

Quote
When upgrading from MC 10, you will lose your view schemes.
Are there any plans to introduce some sort of view scheme migration tool in the future?

This is a big reason to stop me upgrading since I have lots of view schemes embedded in other view schemes etc - about 60 to 80 in all. It's seems very unusual to see a product upgrade that is not compatible with such a key part of the previous version.

That's incorrect. View schemes are preserved from MC 10. Sorry about that.

sirshambling · « **Reply #5 on:** November 12, 2004, 02:54:18 pm »

Since the recent builds haven't been recognising my WAV files' duration, on a hunch I unticked the "ignore small files" box on Tools/Import Media and MC 11 has now found the files I've pointed it at. Very pleased!

The bad news is that neither the duration nor bitrate is shown.

But no doubt that will come...

Krazykanuck · « **Reply #6 on:** November 12, 2004, 04:03:53 pm »

When ripping a CD the image for the last track does not get updated.
If I go into image , quick find the image is found and updated fine.

Bartabedian · « **Reply #7 on:** November 12, 2004, 05:08:13 pm »

Typing in library fields seems particularly slow.

In MC10 there was a registry hack for "LastSelectedOptionsPage". I loved this feature but there seems to be no equivalent in the new registry setp for MC11. Any plans to include one?

Thanks,

WP

Jaguu · « **Reply #8 on:** November 12, 2004, 05:31:23 pm »

A side to side compare with data exported to Excel revealed that Excel and MC11 sort in a different way. One would imagine that sorting algorithms would be everywhere the same.

Sorting in MC11:
1) Laurette's Head
2) Laurette inside

Sorting in Excel:
1) Laurette inside
2) Laurette's Head

ludwigl · « **Reply #9 on:** November 12, 2004, 07:02:32 pm »

For those having problems using the posted link from Matt's post above:

ftp://ftp.jriver.com/pub/downloads/music/MediaCenter110127.exe

try replacing the first ftp with http as in the link below:

http://ftp.jriver.com/pub/downloads/music/MediaCenter110127.exe

daltonrooney · « **Reply #10 on:** November 13, 2004, 09:19:26 am »

I've had a big problem with the recent builds of MC 11 - the Media Server no longer works with my Tivo. Tivo sees the Media Center, I can browse the files, but as soon as I try to play something, the Tivo seems to freeze up and reboot. It might play one or two seconds of a song before it does this. I've tried more than a few different files, bitrates, etcc.

The wireless streaming still works with the Tivo Desktop and with MC 10, so this definitely appears to be related to the MC 11 upgrade.

brookb · « **Reply #11 on:** November 13, 2004, 10:12:42 am »

I wrote about a problem using JRSS where the front and back speakers would swap between songs. The problem was present in 11.0.105. I just loaded 11.0.127, and the problem is still there. Guess I'll keep reporting it every now and then till it bubbles to the top of the priority list.

It is described in more detail in this thread:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=20879;start=msg169866#msg169866

Marc · « **Reply #12 on:** November 13, 2004, 10:14:53 am »

Quote from: daltonrooney on November 13, 2004, 09:19:26 am

I've had a big problem with the recent builds of MC 11 - the Media Server no longer works with my Tivo. Tivo sees the Media Center, I can browse the files, but as soon as I try to play something, the Tivo seems to freeze up and reboot. It might play one or two seconds of a song before it does this. I've tried more than a few different files, bitrates, etcc.

The wireless streaming still works with the Tivo Desktop and with MC 10, so this definitely appears to be related to the MC 11 upgrade.

Same problem here. Due to this, my darn TiVo rebooted while recording a show I wanted to watch yesterday...

JimH · « **Reply #13 on:** November 13, 2004, 01:55:31 pm »

For TiVo now, switch to the new plug-in in the tree. Do not run Media Server with TiVo. Try a search for "tivo server".

daltonrooney · « **Reply #14 on:** November 13, 2004, 03:22:12 pm »

Quote from: JimH on November 13, 2004, 01:55:31 pm

For TiVo now, switch to the new plug-in in the tree. Do not run Media Server with TiVo. Try a search for "tivo server".

I see the new plug in, and it says it's started, but Tivo does not pick it up. I'm also running the newest version of the Tivo Beacon and I still have MC10 installed, both of those work just fine. I've even tried specifying the IP address in Tivo to no avail.

JimH · « **Reply #15 on:** November 13, 2004, 04:34:59 pm »

You may also have Media Server running?

Try another port and check the config for Tivo Server.

daltonrooney · « **Reply #16 on:** November 13, 2004, 04:56:14 pm »

No, Media Server is definitely not running. The "Tivo Desktop" 1.3 is, though, and it shows up. What kind of config should I be checking on the Tivo Server? I don't see any configuration options.

JimH · « **Reply #17 on:** November 13, 2004, 05:13:02 pm »

If you can post on the TiVo board here, you'll find better help. You may also find some instructions here if you search.

AoXoMoXoA · « **Reply #18 on:** November 13, 2004, 05:51:17 pm »

MC still allows itself to create filenames using "Rename file form properties", which are of 'illegal filename length' which subsequently CRASHES MC when these files are handled by MC.
Can you not program this to truncate the name, or advise the user to respecify the name as the one chosen is illegal in length?

Omni · « **Reply #19 on:** November 13, 2004, 07:15:16 pm »

Bug: When changing the name of a view, the name in the tree branch does not get updated until you close and then reopen the parent branch.

(Note: I use the term "bug" loosely here.

)

jbl · « **Reply #20 on:** November 13, 2004, 09:21:16 pm »

Wonderful. I'm a real newbie with a question:
In the 11 beta, what is the new icon on the toolbar for Media Modes for "documents"?
Love your program! JL

JimH · « **Reply #21 on:** November 13, 2004, 10:04:19 pm »

You can import and manage document files. Check the file types in tools/options/file associations.

jeffspl311 · « **Reply #22 on:** November 14, 2004, 02:38:42 am »

Quote from: Quixote on November 12, 2004, 12:22:44 pm

I've been using MC for a lot of tagging. One of the things that I find I need the most is a

"Fill Property from Properties" option.

I do not like to change the filename with "Rename Filename from Properties" and then a "Fill Properties From Filename". When I need to combine a couple properties. When I do it this way, I lose punctuation sometimes.

The program is getting awesome!

Well said, Quixote. I'll second all of what you posted!

outofspace7 · « **Reply #23 on:** November 14, 2004, 03:54:42 am »

Links in web media are not opening in default browser

GHammer · « **Reply #24 on:** November 14, 2004, 05:45:01 am »

I renamed some APL files using another app.
I then used Import to fix and to import files/links.
The renamed APL files were not found.
The APE file those APLs refer to was found however.

lee269 · « **Reply #25 on:** November 14, 2004, 01:27:15 pm »

Not a bug, but a small inconsistency in the interface:

'File/Export All Playlists...' - note the ellipsis which signifies you are going to get a dialog box. But if you click this it automatically dumps your playlists into a subdirectory Playlists of your library directory. I was expecting to be asked where I wanted them to be placed, and the format, like the File/Export Playlist menu item.

AoXoMoXoA · « **Reply #26 on:** November 14, 2004, 01:55:53 pm »

a single-click on a folder or file may cause the 'double-click' behavior to be executed

MC continues to report my library as having a duration of "6.9 Years" (in spite of a number opf additions to the library),
while I wish it was so, it ain't.

MC is still stopping at 'My Computer' rather than proceeding into the drive to the designated folder. I have tried deleting and recreating tyhe favorites but this did no good.

wizbang · « **Reply #27 on:** November 14, 2004, 02:47:45 pm »

If you "Add Playlist" and then start moving audio tracks into the playlist, they get sorted in the wrong order.

The first track you add becomes the last track in the playlist and the last track you add is the first!

Is this the correct behaviour? If so, why?

lpr · « **Reply #28 on:** November 14, 2004, 05:12:34 pm »

This build and the last one crashes on import of .ape files. 3 media core crashes in a row with the following message:

It happens when MC is looking for files that had changes.

AppName: media center.exe AppVer: 11.0.126.0 ModName: media center.exe
ModVer: 11.0.126.0 Offset: 0025a6ec

lpr · « **Reply #29 on:** November 14, 2004, 05:33:13 pm »

Also,

It is still trying to import cover art (from the internet) that are already there...

Thanks.

Jaguu · « **Reply #30 on:** November 15, 2004, 07:30:47 am »

Problem or bug:

MC11 imports JPEG/JFIF files with CMYK compression, but doesn't display neither thumbnails nor the whole image!

JimH · « **Reply #31 on:** November 15, 2004, 09:30:21 am »

Marcel's post on Toshiba PDA problems and Steve's reply are here now:

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?board=8;action=display;threadid=24577;start=0

gbdesai · « **Reply #32 on:** November 15, 2004, 09:51:22 am »

When creating a playlist, the drag and drop into the action window is goofy, ithe ordering is screwed up and things don't always refresh properly. Also with the playlist action window open, if I go to "playing now" and hit Alt-Enter on a song to check the tags, the tagging action window does not show up (even though the scrollbar for the navigation tree shortens appropriately (hope that made sense).

Matt · « **Reply #33 on:** November 15, 2004, 12:30:53 pm »

Quote from: sirshambling on November 12, 2004, 02:54:18 pm

Since the recent builds haven't been recognising my WAV files' duration, on a hunch I unticked the "ignore small files" box on Tools/Import Media and MC 11 has now found the files I've pointed it at. Very pleased!

The bad news is that neither the duration nor bitrate is shown.

But no doubt that will come...

Can you send a small sample WAV that MC is failing on to matt @ jriver.com

Thanks.

Matt · « **Reply #34 on:** November 15, 2004, 12:34:57 pm »

Quote from: Bartabedian on November 12, 2004, 05:08:13 pm

In MC10 there was a registry hack for "LastSelectedOptionsPage". I loved this feature but there seems to be no equivalent in the new registry setp for MC11. Any plans to include one?

That option changed the page that Options opened to. It's still there but named differently. Why do you want to "hack" that? (or is there some other setting?)

LonWar · « **Reply #35 on:** November 15, 2004, 12:49:52 pm »

Quote from: Bartabedian on November 12, 2004, 05:08:13 pm

Typing in library fields seems particularly slow.

In MC10 there was a registry hack for "LastSelectedOptionsPage". I loved this feature but there seems to be no equivalent in the new registry setp for MC11. Any plans to include one?

Thanks,

WP

Do you mean so you can have 3 or 4 of the last options displayed on the right click menu?
If So,

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