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UPnP Server in MC11
« on: June 07, 2005, 10:07:49 am »

Media Center 11 has support for the UPnP Protocol

The big news is that Roku now has better support for long operations that may time out:
http://www.rokulabs.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3057

Streaming works better on the Philip's Streamium and possibly other devices.

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Instructions for using the UPnP Server
Click on Plug-ins in MC's tree, then on UPnP Server.  On the right side of the UPnP Server page, set "Options" and then click on "Start" to start the server.

If a media receiver is already on the network, and the server is started, the receiver should pick up the server right away. When a media receiver is first turned on, if the server is already started, the receiver should pick up the server. Some receivers may not do both correctly, so try both.

If you cannot see your view scheme, make sure that:
1) The View Scheme is selected to Show in Theater View (under Edit View Scheme).
2) The View Scheme is a child of "Audio", "Images" or "Video".

Options
You can convert files to other formats (such as MP3 or WMA) as they are streamed.  See Options on the UPnP page.

If you have multiple network interfaces on your computer, such as an ethernet and a bluetooth interface, you may need to specify the IP address the UPnP server uses (it will only listen on a single interface, and may choose the one the device is not on).

Unless you are reporting log information here, you can turn off many warings by unchecking "Warn on unrecognized NOTIFY".

There are a set of options handling the different devices. Normally, you should select Receiver: Automatic Detection. If this does not correctly identify your UPnP device (it reports the device detected on the message page), then choose the device name. If your device name is not present, choose
Advanced and use the five special cases:

1.  "Replace Empty Genre" is required for the NETGEAR MP101, and possibly others. It replaces blank genres with "Unknown". The MP101 will otherwise refuse to play tracks with blank genres.

2.  "Use Flat URLs" is required for the SMC EZ Stream and the Terratec Noxon. These receivers cannot handle complex URLs (internal to the protocol) and this hack changes the URLs to simpler ones.

3. "Include SessionID" must be turned off for Roku. It may be required for others. If you know of a device that requires it, please let me know.

4. "No server header" must be turned on for the D-Link DSM 320. It stops the emission of an HTTP Server header.

5. "Allow Visual Content" should be turned on for devices that can display pictures or movies. Otherwise the top level of the library will be restricted to audio and playlists.

6. "Estimate Stream Length" should be turned on if there are problems with streaming content from the Internet. It is required for the Streamium and possibly others.

A log is generated on the UPnP Server page in MC.  If you have a UPnP device that doesn't work, you can copy the log from MC's UPnP Server (under the tree/plug-ins) and paste it into a thread here. Make sure the "Warn on unrecognized NOTIFY" option is selected before creating the log.

A thread that explains more about UPnP and how MC supports it:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=25689.0

Supported UPnP Devices are here:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=25839.0

The previous thread on the UPnP Server:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=28054.0

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Re: UPnP Server in MC11
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2005, 02:17:13 pm »

I've added a new option to help with streaming: "Estimate Stream Length".

If you are having problems streaming, try enabling this option. It is required for the Streamum, and possibly others. If you know of other devices that require it, please drop me a note here and let me know.

The problem: the Streamium uses partial ranges when requesting content. The response to these requests must specify the length of the entire content. With a stream, this length is unknown or infinite, depending on your point of view, and there is no way in the standard to specify either.

The "Estimate Stream Length" option just uses large numbers (9 hours, 59 minutes and 59 seconds, and 100,000,000 bytes) to estimate the length of the stream.

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Re: UPnP Server in MC11
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2005, 02:34:26 pm »

John,
looking at http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=28054.msg194977#msg194977

I'm rather suprised - I had hoped that the "Convert" upnp option would allways generate a plain mp3 stream that all (supported) devices should be capable of playing ?
If not, please explain the purpose of this option...

The url in mention is a RTSP stream - should that be supported?
I have this station as a playlist that I try to trigger from my DSM-320 - note that it's marked as a videofile!! ?
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes" ?>
<MPL Version="2.0">
<Item>
<Field Name="Filename">http://80.160.69.50/100fm</Field>
<Field Name="Artist">Radio 100FM</Field>
<Field Name="Name">Radio 100FM LIVE</Field>
<Field Name="File Type">wma</Field>
<Field Name="Media Type">Video</Field>
<Field Name="Last Played">1117208575</Field>
<Field Name="Rating">5</Field>
<Field Name="Number Plays">7</Field>
<Field Name="Date Imported">1117202610</Field>
<Field Name="Bookmark">11517</Field>
<Field Name="Complete Album">1</Field>
</Item>
</MPL>

Thx in advance - an keep up the good work!
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Re: UPnP Server in MC11
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2005, 02:51:52 pm »

Hi ugilt,

Some streams, like Real Audio, cannot be transcoded. We need a decoder to translate them to WAV before they are re-encoded to MP3. We don't always have this decoder (We use Real Audio's back end to play Real content).

Some streams have digital rights management (DRM) that limits what we can do. We can only reencode these streams if permitted by the DRM.

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Re: UPnP Server in MC11
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2005, 02:53:52 pm »

Oh yeah, the stream you mention above should work. First change the type to Audio (MC cannot guess the type of the stream), if that doesn't work, try the Estimate Stream Length option.

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Re: UPnP Server in MC11
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2005, 03:08:10 pm »

John.
Setting it to audio type didn't work :-(

Where's the "Estimata Stream Length" hidden (using .285 build) ?

This stream should be without DRM and doesl work on all sw players I've been able to find - just not on my DSM.320   :'(
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Re: UPnP Server in MC11
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2005, 06:05:44 pm »

Well, the new changes sound good, especially the "Estimate Stream Length" option!  I should be able to stream internet radio to my Streamium.  Thanks for the hard work!

Now where exactly do we find this option?  The UPnP server in build .285 is still at Version 1.0.28 and I can't find it...
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Re: UPnP Server in MC11
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2005, 08:36:34 pm »

The build tomorrow should have the change made today.
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Re: UPnP Server in MC11
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2005, 06:19:47 pm »

Just tried the 1.0.30 UPnP server with my Streamium.  Thanks again for the continued efforts!!

Looks like there's been some progress on internet radio streaming, but it still doesn't quite work.  It looks similar to what I saw some months ago where the stream would start playing and then quit after a short time.  On some streams it will play for about 40 seconds and on others about 12 seconds.  Didn't have much time to experiment further (it's time to get the grass cut).  Let me know if you'd like me to try any specific tests.

The navigation problem is unchanged (see http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=27936.0)

Here's the server log for the internet streaming problem:
06/08/05 18:58:20 - JRiver UPnP Server Version 1.0.30 starting...
06/08/05 18:58:21 - Server running on address 192.168.2.2, port 1182
06/08/05 18:58:22 - Running
06/08/05 18:58:24 - Received request for device description
06/08/05 18:58:25 - Received request for service description
06/08/05 18:58:25 - Received request for service description
06/08/05 18:58:26 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 0()
06/08/05 18:58:51 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 1(Audio)
06/08/05 18:58:51 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 0()
06/08/05 18:58:53 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 4(Playlists)
06/08/05 18:58:58 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 15(Playlists\Christmas (all))
06/08/05 18:58:58 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 4(Playlists)
06/08/05 18:59:02 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 20(Playlists\Radio)
06/08/05 18:59:02 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 20(Playlists\Radio)
06/08/05 18:59:04 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 24(Playlists\Radio\BBC)
06/08/05 18:59:04 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 20(Playlists\Radio)
06/08/05 18:59:05 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 25(Playlists\Radio\Beatblender)
06/08/05 18:59:12 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 25(Playlists\Radio\Beatblender)
06/08/05 18:59:12 - Sharing (without conversion): http://64.124.44.102:8388
06/08/05 18:59:12 - Received request for file: http://64.124.44.102:8388
06/08/05 19:00:02 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 26(Playlists\Radio\DI Chillout)
06/08/05 19:00:06 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 26(Playlists\Radio\DI Chillout)
06/08/05 19:00:06 - Sharing (without conversion): http://64.236.34.4:80/stream/8022
06/08/05 19:00:07 - Received request for file: http://64.236.34.4:80/stream/8022
06/08/05 19:00:24 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 26(Playlists\Radio\DI Chillout)
06/08/05 19:00:24 - Sharing (without conversion): http://64.236.34.4:5190/stream/8022
06/08/05 19:00:25 - Received request for file: http://64.236.34.4:5190/stream/8022
06/08/05 19:00:47 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 30(Playlists\Radio\Radio 42)
06/08/05 19:00:50 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 30(Playlists\Radio\Radio 42)
06/08/05 19:00:50 - Sharing (without conversion): http://loungestream.rautemusik.fm:14000
06/08/05 19:00:51 - Received request for file: http://loungestream.rautemusik.fm:14000
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Re: UPnP Server in MC11
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2005, 07:44:44 pm »

Just purchased a Buffalo LinkTheater.  I know this UPnP module supports it, but what settings does the LT need?
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Re: UPnP Server in MC11
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2005, 08:26:11 pm »

Change the automatic detection to the Buffalo LT.  That's all, I think.
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Re: UPnP Server in MC11
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2005, 12:09:32 am »

Johnn.
.286 didn't solve my streaming issues... any suggestions?
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Re: UPnP Server in MC11
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2005, 02:04:50 am »

Browsing with the Noxon still produces a lot of timeouts. And MC often crashes after a few attempts. When I tried to stop the UPnP server of build 285 before installing 286 it locked up and I had to kill it through the task manager.
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Re: UPnP Server in MC11
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2005, 12:13:42 pm »

John, just an idea...
As it seems rather complex to handle radiostream it might be worth to display a few information of the stream in the upnp server log ie. type of stream and perhaps indicate if there's any DRM, if it should be playable etc.
Well, just my $.02
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Re: UPnP Server in MC11
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2005, 12:36:07 pm »

Hi Uglit,

I know what's happening with the D-Link, but it's difficult to fix. The DSM320 opens and shuts the stream and then immediately reopens the stream. It takes a while to clean up the stream after the first open, and so the second open is failing. Fixing this is a widespread change, so I have to do it with care.

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Re: UPnP Server in MC11
« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2005, 01:37:25 pm »

John, fair enough. Pls. drop a note here when ychanges have materialized and needs fiels testing.
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Re: UPnP Server in MC11
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2005, 06:41:42 am »

Hi,

Trying to get my Showcentre 1000g to work through the UPnP server.  On automatic settings I get the following log messages;

06/10/05 12:38:34 - JRiver UPnP Server Version 1.0.28 starting...
06/10/05 12:38:35 - Server running on address 192.168.0.9, port 1677
06/10/05 12:38:35 - Running
06/10/05 12:38:43 - Cannot autodetect device, User-Agent:
06/10/05 12:38:43 - Received request for device description
06/10/05 12:38:44 - Cannot autodetect device, User-Agent:
06/10/05 12:38:44 - Cannot autodetect device, User-Agent:
06/10/05 12:38:48 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: upnp:rootdevice, USN: uuid:myiBoxUPnP::upnp:rootdevice
06/10/05 12:38:48 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: uuid:myiBoxUPnP, USN: uuid:myiBoxUPnP
06/10/05 12:38:48 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:SyabasSTB:1, USN: uuid:myiBoxUPnP::urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:SyabasSTB:1
06/10/05 12:38:52 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: upnp:rootdevice, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9::upnp:rootdevice
06/10/05 12:38:52 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9
06/10/05 12:38:52 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:DigitalMediaReceiver:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9::urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:DigitalMediaReceiver:1
06/10/05 12:38:52 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_1
06/10/05 12:38:52 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_1::urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1
06/10/05 12:38:53 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:AVTransport:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_1::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:AVTransport:1
06/10/05 12:38:53 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_1::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1
06/10/05 12:38:53 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RenderingControl:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_1::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RenderingControl:1
06/10/05 12:38:53 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3
06/10/05 12:38:53 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:RemoteIO:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3::urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:RemoteIO:1
06/10/05 12:38:53 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ChannelManager:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ChannelManager:1
06/10/05 12:38:53 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RemoteInput:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RemoteInput:1
06/10/05 12:38:53 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RemoteIO:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RemoteIO:1
06/10/05 12:38:53 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: upnp:rootdevice, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9::upnp:rootdevice
06/10/05 12:38:53 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9
06/10/05 12:38:53 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:DigitalMediaReceiver:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9::urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:DigitalMediaReceiver:1
06/10/05 12:38:54 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_1
06/10/05 12:38:54 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_1::urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1
06/10/05 12:38:54 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:AVTransport:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_1::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:AVTransport:1
06/10/05 12:38:54 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_1::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1
06/10/05 12:38:54 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RenderingControl:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_1::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RenderingControl:1
06/10/05 12:38:54 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3
06/10/05 12:38:54 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:RemoteIO:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3::urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:RemoteIO:1
06/10/05 12:38:54 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ChannelManager:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ChannelManager:1
06/10/05 12:38:54 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RemoteInput:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RemoteInput:1
06/10/05 12:38:54 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RemoteIO:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RemoteIO:1
06/10/05 12:38:54 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ChannelManager:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ChannelManager:1
06/10/05 12:38:55 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ChannelManager:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ChannelManager:1
06/10/05 12:38:55 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9
06/10/05 12:38:55 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9
06/10/05 12:38:55 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_1
06/10/05 12:38:55 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_1
06/10/05 12:38:55 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RemoteInput:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RemoteInput:1
06/10/05 12:38:55 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RemoteInput:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RemoteInput:1
06/10/05 12:38:55 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_1::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1
06/10/05 12:38:55 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_1::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1
06/10/05 12:38:55 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:RemoteIO:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3::urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:RemoteIO:1
06/10/05 12:38:55 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:RemoteIO:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3::urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:RemoteIO:1
06/10/05 12:38:56 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: upnp:rootdevice, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9::upnp:rootdevice
06/10/05 12:38:56 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RemoteIO:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RemoteIO:1
06/10/05 12:38:56 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3




Can anyone help?  I have also tried various combinations of Advanced settings and all of the settings for named devices?

Have I got the most current version of UPnP server?  If not, how do I get the latest version?

Thanks in anticipation!

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Re: UPnP Server in MC11
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2005, 07:42:40 am »

I am using my NetGear MP101 to stream my MP3 collection (to the kitchen) without big problems at the moment.
Now I am ready for Internet radio.
How do I make this available on the MP101?
The button 'Internet' (i think it is) on the remote does not work.

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Re: UPnP Server in MC11
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2005, 10:30:16 am »

Hi Jedra,

Choose advanced - you cannot use autodetection with this device. Try the Flat URLs options.

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« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2005, 10:31:25 am »

Hi Dutch Peter

Import the radio station into your library, then navigate to it on the MP101 and play it.

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Re: UPnP Server in MC11
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2005, 11:03:37 am »

Hi Jedra,

Choose advanced - you cannot use autodetection with this device. Try the Flat URLs options.

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Thanks for that J, tried what you suggest but still no joy.  This is the log I get when I recycle the ShowCentre with the UPNP server running;

06/10/05 16:57:56 - JRiver UPnP Server Version 1.0.30 starting...
06/10/05 16:57:57 - Server running on address 192.168.0.9, port 2971
06/10/05 16:57:58 - Running
06/10/05 16:58:06 - Received request for device description
06/10/05 16:58:34 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: upnp:rootdevice, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9::upnp:rootdevice
06/10/05 16:58:34 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: upnp:rootdevice, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9::upnp:rootdevice
06/10/05 16:59:05 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: upnp:rootdevice, USN: uuid:myiBoxUPnP::upnp:rootdevice
06/10/05 16:59:05 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: uuid:myiBoxUPnP, USN: uuid:myiBoxUPnP
06/10/05 16:59:05 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:SyabasSTB:1, USN: uuid:myiBoxUPnP::urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:SyabasSTB:1
06/10/05 16:59:08 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: upnp:rootdevice, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9::upnp:rootdevice
06/10/05 16:59:08 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9
06/10/05 16:59:08 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:DigitalMediaReceiver:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9::urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:DigitalMediaReceiver:1
06/10/05 16:59:08 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_1
06/10/05 16:59:08 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_1::urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1
06/10/05 16:59:08 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:AVTransport:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_1::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:AVTransport:1
06/10/05 16:59:08 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_1::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1
06/10/05 16:59:08 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RenderingControl:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_1::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RenderingControl:1
06/10/05 16:59:08 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3
06/10/05 16:59:09 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:RemoteIO:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3::urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:RemoteIO:1
06/10/05 16:59:09 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ChannelManager:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ChannelManager:1
06/10/05 16:59:09 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RemoteInput:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RemoteInput:1
06/10/05 16:59:09 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RemoteIO:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RemoteIO:1
06/10/05 16:59:09 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: upnp:rootdevice, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9::upnp:rootdevice
06/10/05 16:59:09 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9
06/10/05 16:59:09 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:DigitalMediaReceiver:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9::urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:DigitalMediaReceiver:1
06/10/05 16:59:09 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_1
06/10/05 16:59:09 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_1::urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1
06/10/05 16:59:09 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:AVTransport:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_1::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:AVTransport:1
06/10/05 16:59:10 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_1::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1
06/10/05 16:59:10 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RenderingControl:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_1::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RenderingControl:1
06/10/05 16:59:10 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3
06/10/05 16:59:10 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:RemoteIO:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3::urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:RemoteIO:1
06/10/05 16:59:10 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ChannelManager:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ChannelManager:1
06/10/05 16:59:10 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RemoteInput:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RemoteInput:1
06/10/05 16:59:10 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RemoteIO:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RemoteIO:1
06/10/05 16:59:10 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_1::urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1
06/10/05 16:59:10 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_1::urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1
06/10/05 16:59:11 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:RemoteIO:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3::urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:RemoteIO:1
06/10/05 16:59:11 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:RemoteIO:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3::urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:RemoteIO:1
06/10/05 16:59:11 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RenderingControl:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_1::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RenderingControl:1
06/10/05 16:59:11 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RenderingControl:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_1::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RenderingControl:1
06/10/05 16:59:11 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:DigitalMediaReceiver:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9::urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:DigitalMediaReceiver:1
06/10/05 16:59:11 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:DigitalMediaReceiver:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9::urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:DigitalMediaReceiver:1
06/10/05 16:59:11 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_1::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1
06/10/05 16:59:11 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_1::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ConnectionManager:1
06/10/05 16:59:12 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RemoteIO:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RemoteIO:1
06/10/05 16:59:12 - Unknown SSDP Server method: NOTIFY, NT: urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RemoteIO:1, USN: uuid:00-30-8D-20-0A-A9_3::urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:RemoteIO:1


I am starting to think that when on the box it said 'UPnP Ready', it did not really mean that!

However, should you have any suggestions, I would like to try - I would love to get this thing working with MC11!

Regards
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Re: UPnP Server in MC11
« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2005, 05:46:42 pm »

The Showcenter can't be used just with Media Center - the UPnP option doesn't include the Media Controller functionality, and Media Center doesn't either. Put simply: you need an extra bit of software to tell the Showcenter what to play when it's in UPnP mode. The remote control doesn't do it.
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« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2005, 02:38:51 am »

Hi Dutch Peter

Import the radio station into your library, then navigate to it on the MP101 and play it.

j



I've never been able to get this to work on my MP101

I've added the stream to a playlist called radio stations, it shows up as audio and I can play it fine in MC11

On the MP101 I just get a message "Item is currently unavailable"

and the server log shows nothing

06/11/05 17:26:43 - JRiver UPnP Server Version 1.0.30 starting...
06/11/05 17:26:44 - Server running on address 192.168.1.13, port 2628
06/11/05 17:26:44 - Running
06/11/05 17:28:00 - Received request for device description
06/11/05 17:28:00 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 0()
06/11/05 17:28:05 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 0()
06/11/05 17:28:07 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 4(Playlists)
06/11/05 17:28:09 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 6(Playlists\Radio Stations)
06/11/05 17:28:13 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 6(Playlists\Radio Stations)
06/11/05 17:28:13 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 6(Playlists\Radio Stations)


I get the saem result for all of the streams I have added to this playlist

e.g.

http://64.236.34.4:5190/stream/1006

file type shows as mp3

any ideas on what should I check ?

Thanks
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Re: UPnP Server in MC11
« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2005, 04:32:39 am »

The Showcenter can't be used just with Media Center - the UPnP option doesn't include the Media Controller functionality, and Media Center doesn't either. Put simply: you need an extra bit of software to tell the Showcenter what to play when it's in UPnP mode. The remote control doesn't do it.


Thanks for that - it's all starting to make a little more sense now!  Do you know of any software that will do this?  I'll Google it anyway, but any advice would be appreciated!

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« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2005, 05:55:56 am »

Well, unfortunately, the only one I've found so far is the Intel one from the Intel UPnP site, which really is just to demonstrate the technology. It does work though.

Otherwise, you can in theory do it with products like Nevo (www.mynevo.com) but whilst that's essentially a bit of PDA software, you only seem to be able to get it preinstalled on a device.

And Philips (and possibly others) do a bit of hardware that's effectively a UPnP remote control - the RC9800i.

I'd be interested if you find anything else though - at the moment, I don't bother using the UPnP functionality on my Showcenter because I've not found an ideal way to do it...
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« Reply #25 on: June 11, 2005, 06:24:55 am »

Rob,

Thanks for your advice.

I'll let you know if I find anything suitable.  I really want to get this working as the Media Manager that comes with the Showcentre is just not good enough for my needs (It really struggles with large playlists - in fact it crashes most of the time).  Eventually I just want to have one media player on my PC which can serve several devices around my house and MC11 is a good piece of kit to do this with.  I'm fed up with having a separate media player for each device I have!

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« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2005, 06:46:39 am »

Yup, the ShowCenter stuff definitely doesn't work very well...

Have you looked at thinks like OpenShowCenter and Oxyl~box though?

Haven't tried them, but might be better...
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« Reply #27 on: June 11, 2005, 07:02:20 am »


I've never been able to get this to work on my MP101

I've added the stream to a playlist called radio stations, it shows up as audio and I can play it fine in MC11

On the MP101 I just get a message "Item is currently unavailable"

and the server log shows nothing

06/11/05 17:26:43 - JRiver UPnP Server Version 1.0.30 starting...
06/11/05 17:26:44 - Server running on address 192.168.1.13, port 2628
06/11/05 17:26:44 - Running
06/11/05 17:28:00 - Received request for device description
06/11/05 17:28:00 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 0()
06/11/05 17:28:05 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 0()
06/11/05 17:28:07 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 4(Playlists)
06/11/05 17:28:09 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 6(Playlists\Radio Stations)
06/11/05 17:28:13 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 6(Playlists\Radio Stations)
06/11/05 17:28:13 - Browse BrowseDirectChildren 6(Playlists\Radio Stations)


I get the saem result for all of the streams I have added to this playlist

e.g.

http://64.236.34.4:5190/stream/1006

file type shows as mp3

any ideas on what should I check ?

Thanks
Stephen

I have the same result!! "Item currently unavailable".
I am using one of the stations from WebMedia. Via Playing Now I put one station in a playlist. In MC it works.
John: I do not know if this is what you mean with 'Import the radio station into your library, then navigate to it on the MP101 and play it.'.

Any suggestions?
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« Reply #28 on: June 11, 2005, 07:39:22 am »

ALERT! FEATURE THAT WAS WORKING IN THE PAST IS NOW BROKEN!!!!
BUILD 11.0.289, UPNP 1.0.30

The alphanumeric search of the Netgear MP101 which was working in the past in most cases (except "S", see another post), is now completely broken!

Scenario: I want to go for "Vivaldi", so I enter "VI" and press OK. Then I get the first artist beginning with "VI", but it's not followed by other interprets with "VI", but it is placed at the end of the artist list, item below is the known "ALL(216)", automatically generated MC.

So the problem is that the artists get in disorder when I try to search. This wasn't like this in the past using MC 11.0.274. The Netgear firmware and settings are the same like before, so it must be a mistake of MC upnp-plugin.

Please check this out.

Thanks
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« Reply #29 on: June 11, 2005, 08:36:01 am »

ALERT! FEATURE THAT WAS WORKING IN THE PAST IS NOW BROKEN!!!!
BUILD 11.0.289, UPNP 1.0.30

The alphanumeric search of the Netgear MP101 which was working in the past in most cases (except "S", see another post), is now completely broken!

Scenario: I want to go for "Vivaldi", so I enter "VI" and press OK. Then I get the first artist beginning with "VI", but it's not followed by other interprets with "VI", but it is placed at the end of the artist list, item below is the known "ALL(216)", automatically generated MC.

So the problem is that the artists get in disorder when I try to search. This wasn't like this in the past using MC 11.0.274. The Netgear firmware and settings are the same like before, so it must be a mistake of MC upnp-plugin.

Please check this out.

Thanks
Raist

I can confirm the same bevaviour!
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« Reply #30 on: June 11, 2005, 09:05:49 am »

Ádditional problems with latest upnp plugin:

I cannot scroll trough my "Musical" section anymore, it always hangs at the same position, I have to unplug my Netgear and reboot it.

This didn't happen in the past as well. Now I cannot listen to "Starlight Express" anymore, I simply cannot reach it  :'( :'(

Very strange new bugs
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« Reply #31 on: June 11, 2005, 02:02:08 pm »

More unstable stuff in uPnP 1.0.30
Longer playlists are now stopping after a couple of songs (8, 10 ??).
I am shuffling playlists of 800 songs.
Downgraded to MC11.0.283 and uPnP 1.0.28

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« Reply #32 on: June 13, 2005, 01:11:26 pm »

The server DLL has the same version ID in MC 11.0.291 (1.30.1)  :'(
So I guess it is still the buggy one (I'm quite sure, John is very reliable and normally posts when he fixes something).

Dunno if downgrading is possible but I'll test this and report back...

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« Reply #33 on: June 13, 2005, 05:19:11 pm »

Yup, the latest UPnP server is definitely a bit broken - I noticed it first when I was doing a search, but it actually isn't to do with the search...

I originally was trying to navigate to "X & Y" (yes, coldplay...) and was surprised that it appeared at the end, given that I knew I had albums that started with Z. So I tried scrolling up... and the Zs appeared to be above it! But actually, it had decided at that point that there were only a few entries in the list, and it just wrapped round.

So I think to see the problem, all you need to do is scroll to the end of a list.

This *could* just be a problem that only appears with the MP101, but that seems unlikely...
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Re: UPnP Server in MC11
« Reply #34 on: June 14, 2005, 09:48:36 am »

Following question comes up:
I would like to follow the upgrades of MC11 but uPnP 1.0.30 is included in the current builds.
Is it possible to stay on 1.0.28 untill the uPnP problems are adressed?

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« Reply #35 on: June 14, 2005, 10:05:28 am »

Following question comes up:
I would like to follow the upgrades of MC11 but uPnP 1.0.30 is included in the current builds.
Is it possible to stay on 1.0.28 untill the uPnP problems are adressed?

Peter

I tried to downgrade only the UPNP plugin, but it doesn't work, unfortunately.
First I tried by uninstalling plugin via plugin-manager and clicking on the package installer file for the upnp-server, but in this case the packageinstaller.exe hangs in the memory till forever.
Second try, after restoring UPNP1.0.30, I just tried to copy the dll over manually, but then the plugin doesn't start in MC.

SO, NO, no way to keep only the plugin downgraded.

The question is WHY?? Because every plugin version should wo´rk with any mc version ( at least 11.x), no? Or was the plugin interface changed?

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Re: UPnP Server in MC11
« Reply #36 on: June 14, 2005, 11:33:34 am »

Hi Y'all,

There's a new version that should fix the problems you have been having.

It's at:

http://www.jriver.com/~gateley/server_upnp1031.mjp

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« Reply #37 on: June 14, 2005, 12:00:42 pm »

I've been looking at getting the Roku device. Is it possible to continue using MC with Netremote while streaming through the Roku or another UPnP device. In other words, I would not be using the Roku for control but rather the MC/Netremote interface.


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« Reply #38 on: June 14, 2005, 12:10:14 pm »

Hi Lakeman,

You can use MC and the Roku at the same time. What this means is that the Roku will be playing music (through your stereo) and MC will be playing different music through the speakers attached to the computer. The Roku is controlled via the Roku remote control, and MC is controlled by the mouse or NetRemote.

Currently, you cannot control the Roku with NetRemote.

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« Reply #39 on: June 14, 2005, 12:51:02 pm »

Thanks John,

I understand. On the hardware side, it sure would be nice to see a product with audio pass through via Lan.

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Re: UPnP Server in MC11
« Reply #40 on: June 14, 2005, 04:14:33 pm »

I installed MC 11.0.292
After that I installed the update of the uPnP server posted by John, so I am running on 1.0.31

Browsing works fine. Alpha serach works again.
Unfortunately every time I try to play a song, a genre or a playlist causes MC to crash totally. A general XP message pops up which asks me if I want to report to Microsoft. Clinking Yes or No ends MC.

 ?   :-\   :'(

Hopefully you can fix this shortly ....

Seperate question still is: is it possible to downgrade only the uPnP driver?
raistlin2k did not manage to do so ...

Peter
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« Reply #41 on: June 14, 2005, 04:21:29 pm »

Seperate question still is: is it possible to downgrade only the uPnP driver?
raistlin2k did not manage to do so ...
It should be, but you're on your own.  You could take a look at the mjp file John Gateley uses to distribute the server.  It can be stored locally and edited with Notepad.

We can't support this.
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« Reply #42 on: June 14, 2005, 04:26:13 pm »

Hi Peter,

The fix I made was very small, it should not have this effect (and I can't reproduce it here). Make sure it is a clean install of MC followed by a clean install of the package. Try turning conversion off or on and checking your options settings.

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Re: UPnP Server in MC11
« Reply #43 on: June 14, 2005, 06:07:17 pm »

I'm unable to get MC running with the Avel Link Player. Got the latest version above of MC, tried the suggested settings like Replace Empty Genre etc. THis is I get from MC

06/14/05 18:33:09 - JRiver UPnP Server Version 1.0.31 starting...
06/14/05 18:33:10 - Server running on address 192.168.0.2, port 4156
06/14/05 18:33:10 - Running
06/14/05 18:33:11 - Cannot autodetect device, User-Agent: uCOS-II/2.70, UPnP/1.0, Syabas/06-35-050430-02-IOD-234-000, DLNADOC/1.00 INTEL_NMPR/2.1
06/14/05 18:33:11 - Received request for device description
06/14/05 18:33:12 - Cannot autodetect device, User-Agent: uCOS-II/2.70, UPnP/1.0, Syabas/06-35-050430-02-IOD-234-000, DLNADOC/1.00 INTEL_NMPR/2.1
06/14/05 18:33:12 - Cannot autodetect device, User-Agent: uCOS-II/2.70, UPnP/1.0, Syabas/06-35-050430-02-IOD-234-000, DLNADOC/1.00 INTEL_NMPR/2.1
06/14/05 18:33:13 - Cannot autodetect device, User-Agent: uCOS-II/2.70, UPnP/1.0, Syabas/06-35-050430-02-IOD-234-000, DLNADOC/1.00 INTEL_NMPR/2.1
06/14/05 18:33:13 - Cannot autodetect device, User-Agent: uCOS-II/2.70, UPnP/1.0, Syabas/06-35-050430-02-IOD-234-000, DLNADOC/1.00 INTEL_NMPR/2.1
06/14/05 18:33:13 - Cannot autodetect device, User-Agent: uCOS-II/2.70, UPnP/1.0, Syabas/06-35-050430-02-IOD-234-000, DLNADOC/1.00 INTEL_NMPR/2.1
06/14/05 18:33:13 - Received request for service description
06/14/05 18:33:13 - Cannot autodetect device, User-Agent: uCOS-II/2.70, UPnP/1.0, Syabas/06-35-050430-02-IOD-234-000, DLNADOC/1.00 INTEL_NMPR/2.1
06/14/05 18:33:13 - Cannot autodetect device, User-Agent: uCOS-II/2.70, UPnP/1.0, Syabas/06-35-050430-02-IOD-234-000, DLNADOC/1.00 INTEL_NMPR/2.1
06/14/05 18:33:13 - Received request for service description

I can get Avel to display a grey screen with Audio, Video, Images in the upper left corner but nothing will play. Can't see Theatre view on TV even though that is the View Scheme under Audio etc. I'm using a Netgear RP114 router if that makes any difference.
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Re: UPnP Server in MC11
« Reply #44 on: June 14, 2005, 06:53:02 pm »

Sorry to say that I don't see any improvements in the 1.1.31 server (w MC build .293).  Internet radio streams still stop after a short time.  It also looks like perhaps the data stream is being corrupted because I hear skips and clicks.

One thing I did notice (don't recall if 1.0.30 did this or not) is that streams played via MC cause the time progress bar to come up on the Streamium's TV display.  What's interesting is that the final time is diplayed as 0:10:25 or 0:13:53 depending on what stream I try.  This final time display is repeatable on a given stream as is the length of time that the stream plays before quitting.

John, do internet streams work on your Streamium?  Could you give me a URL to try?  None of mine work.

Normal audio navigation issues remain.
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Re: UPnP Server in MC11
« Reply #45 on: June 15, 2005, 12:18:40 am »

Hi Peter,

The fix I made was very small, it should not have this effect (and I can't reproduce it here). Make sure it is a clean install of MC followed by a clean install of the package. Try turning conversion off or on and checking your options settings.

Reading this i installed MC11.0.293 (including 1.0.31) and it works!!
Life is great ...  ;)

Peter    (looking forward to next versions of the uPnP server)
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Re: UPnP Server in MC11
« Reply #46 on: June 15, 2005, 06:05:15 am »

Hi Y'all,

There's a new version that should fix the problems you have been having.

It's at:

http://www.jriver.com/~gateley/server_upnp1031.mjp

j



Sorry, still no internet radio on my MP101

I just get "item currently unavailable" exactly as reported previously.

Stephen
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Re: UPnP Server in MC11
« Reply #47 on: June 15, 2005, 10:38:18 am »

UPNP 1.0.31

Seems that the problems are gone again! Thanks John for fixing this so fast!

Raist

P.S. Unfortunately, the bug that I cannot search for "S" in one of my views is still there, I have to look deeper into this to find out why it is like this...
A question: If I send you only the database file, could you replicate the error or not? I mean, does MC show the files via UPNP even if they are not available?
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Re: UPnP Server in MC11
« Reply #48 on: June 15, 2005, 10:38:37 am »

I have the same result!! "Item currently unavailable".
I am using one of the stations from WebMedia. Via Playing Now I put one station in a playlist. In MC it works.
John: I do not know if this is what you mean with 'Import the radio station into your library, then navigate to it on the MP101 and play it.'.

Any suggestions?

You can get a set of Free FOC UPnP tools on the intel website. This tool set includes a software UPnP AV control point. This allows you to scan the UPnP media server for content and then direct it to stream to a UPnP Renderer (In this case the show center).... its a bit basic but pretty solid. IT allowed me to stream from JRiver, TwonkyVission, Intel and Nero UPnP servers... will test Windows media connect tonight ... this would give an option for streaming DMR protected content to the SC1000g unit.

It was really lame of pinnacle to build the renderer function onto the unit without the matching control point function on the unit or built into the server based GUI.
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Re: UPnP Server in MC11
« Reply #49 on: June 15, 2005, 11:07:35 am »

Internet Radio is now working on MP101. The MP101 wouldn't play a radio station if the artist (or album or genre) was unknown. When I imported radio stations, the first thing I'd do is set the artist to "radio" so they would be easy to find in my library. That's why they were working for me, but not for others.

You can either set the artist to something, or get a new version here:

http://www.jriver.com/~gateley/server_upnp1032.mjp

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