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[John Gateley]

We're ready to release Media Center 11.0.  PRICES are here: http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=23311

PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING:  Post bugs you are certain about here.  Anything else will be moved or deleted.  If you can't find your post here, please look in the main index.   Feature requests should be postponed until MC11.0 is released. 

Media Center 11 is available here:
ftp://ftp.jriver.com/pub/downloads/music/MediaCenter110305.exe

11.0.305 (7/5/05)

1. Fixed: Running Media Center when there was an existing instance running would show the existing Media Center but then cause a crash.

11.0.304 (6/30/05)

1. Fixed: Installation would hang on occasion (please report any further hanging behavior).

11.0.303 (6/29/05)

1. Fixed: Library Browser could be slower to load than expected.
2. Changed: Library Browser database entries are removed right after leaving library browser instead of on program close.
3. Fixed: When logging out, the "Incomplete Shutdown" dialog could appear on the next launch.
4. Fixed: Thumbnails were not always updating immediately in some views when assigning cover art.
5. Fixed: Dropping files on the player area would automatically import them, even if auto-import was disabled.
6. Fixed: MC was failing to play some very short MP3 files.
7. Fixed: In some cases, the installer could hang at the very end of installation.

New or Improved in MC 11

New database caching layer that makes many parts of MC significantly faster
Several memory and speed enhancements -- like database and skin unloading when minimizing
CUE file playback support with sample-accurate MP3 seeking
Many Theater View enhancements
Split views allow you to look at two or more views at the same time (ex. look at Media Library and Playing Now together)
Vastly improved database engine capable of handling 100,000's of files and large amounts of metadata (lyrics, bios, etc.)
Much of MC's interface can be translated to other languages
Integrated database import and update with smart broken linking repairing, and other nice features
MC now works with guest permissions on Windows 2000 / Windows XP
New view customization system with more flexibility for thumbnail size, text, etc.
Options dialogs reworked -- several small options added
Added multi-zone synchronization
Added Album Gain support
Document support with full text searching / indexing
Pane auto-sizing
Tile view allows fully customizable Track Info style tiles to be used in file lists
File tagging happens in a background thread so MC can continue to be used while it's saving tags
New Image Editor
Enhanced album grouping for pictures so session pictures are grouped automatically
Preview mode to only play the intro of songs
Video CD playback support
Audio resampling uses Shibatch's high-quality SSRC filters
ATI HDTV card support with recording and time shifting
Hauppauge WinTV PVR 150 support
UPnP device support for playback through a home theater system
Audible.com Store -- full integration (downloads, playback, bookmarks, etc.)
Sony PSP support
iPod -- Support for multiple iPods with different profiles
New file format -- Shockwave (SWF)
RAW image support (crw,cr2,nef,mrw,orf,raf,pef,dng,srf)
Multi-channel support (5.1, 7.1, etc.) for WAV and WMA files.

[Sauzee]

MC hangs on install again - at the point of installing plugins.

I have to use the task manager to exit MediaCenter 110305.exe and package installer.

When I've done that, MC opens and appears to run normally. The version number is updated.

Has it fully installed or not?

[lalittle]

The Audible content problems remain -- they may have even gotten worse with this build.  I can no longer reliably play audible content in MC11 like I could with MC10 due to various problems mentioned below, the worst of which is lockups on various titles when trying to navigate to a different location in the track.  The same file plays fine with MC10.

The specific issues are:

1)  When jumping to a different point in a title, there is a several second delay before the new location starts playing.  The previous section continues to play during this time, and sometimes it will jump to another section of the title before it jumps to the "actual" point you placed the timeline indicator.  In MC10, the same track does not have this problem -- when you jump to a new point in the timeline, it immediately starts playing at this new location.

Note that I'm using the same playback settings that I use with MC10 (i.e. "gapless" and "immediate.")  Mp3's behave normally when jumping to different sections of the tracks.

2)  When returning to a track that that you preiously stopped listenning to at some point (i.e. when you utilize the bookmark capability of the aa file), you hear several seconds from the beginning of the title before the audio jumps to the bookmarked spot.  It does this each time you return to the title.  With MC10, the title immediately starts playing for the point you left off when you return to it.

3)  When jumping to later points in certain tracks, some aa files simply stop playing.  I can't seem to find a pattern to why/when this happens, but this NEVER happens with MC10 (which I've been using with the same aa files for a couple years now.

Is there any estimation as to when these issue may be looked into?  I'm going to have to revert to MC10 for the time being since I listen to a lot of audible content.

Thanks for any information on this,

Larry

[garthkerr]

MPEGplus (MPC, MP+) Encoder is Still NOT WORKING.

I think enough people use MPC that this needs to be looked into. PLEASE!!! 

[Lester_Jacobs]

I've been testing Media Center !! for the last few weeks or so and I must say, I'm impressed, very impressed.  I last tried MC out at version 9 but it didn't meet my needs at that time.  Now it does that and more!

However, I have discovered a few issues that I hope can be addessed:
1) When I change visualisations in Theater View using Controls>Visualisations, the setting does not "stick".  That is, when I use Controls>Visualisations in Theater View and change the current visualisation, then proceed to use F11 to switch between Theater View and Fullscreen, the visualisation switches back to what it was before.  However, in windowed mode, if I use Player>Display Options>Visualisations to change the visualisations, the change does survive the F11 cycling.  Can this be fixed such that visualistion changes in Theater View "stick"?

2) The behaviour of the "Play" option at the Tracks level in Theater View is somewhat odd.  For example, suppose I have a view scheme consisting of Artist/Album.  If I select a particular album and choose "Open", I am presented with a list of tracks in that album.  If I select a particular track and choose "Play" all Tracks from the album are added to Playing Now.  This is counterintuitive.  I would have expected only my selected track would have been added and played.  If I had wanted the complete album to be added I would have chosen "Play" at the Album level instead of at the Tracks level.  Am I wrong in my interpretation?  If not can this be addressed in a future build?

3)  I installed the software as administrator and ran it while in administrator mode.  I then logged out and logged back in as a restricted user to test how MC behaved with restricted privileges.  When I tried to run it, it informed me that my 30 day trial period had expired.  Does the 30 day trial period not allow the software to be run by a restricted user?

Regards
Lester

[modelmaker]

1) When I change visualisations in Theater View using Controls>Visualisations, the setting does not "stick".  That is, when I use Controls>Visualisations in Theater View and change the current visualisation, then proceed to use F11 to switch between Theater View and Fullscreen, the visualisation switches back to what it was before.  However, in windowed mode, if I use Player>Display Options>Visualisations to change the visualisations, the change does survive the F11 cycling.  Can this be fixed such that visualistion changes in Theater View "stick"?

I can confirm that behavior but I think it may be a design oversight rather than a bug.

2) The behaviour of the "Play" option at the Tracks level in Theater View is somewhat odd.  For example, suppose I have a view scheme consisting of Artist/Album.  If I select a particular album and choose "Open", I am presented with a list of tracks in that album.  If I select a particular track and choose "Play" all Tracks from the album are added to Playing Now.  This is counterintuitive.  I would have expected only my selected track would have been added and played.  If I had wanted the complete album to be added I would have chosen "Play" at the Album level instead of at the Tracks level.  Am I wrong in my interpretation?  If not can this be addressed in a future build?

The Behavior of the Play button can be changed: Tools>Options>General>Behavior.

[SteveG]

LisaRCT,

It should close after giving you the message "After the reset of all detected devices, the Options dialogue will close. Continue?"

Steve

[Hildy]

Where can we make suggestions for additions to the Media Center Help Documentation?  I would like to forward the following post:

To the documentation people to consider.

Thanks. ?

[Lester_Jacobs]

The Behavior of the Play button can be changed: Tools>Options>General>Behavior.

I have played with all of the behaviour settings and alas, no matter what I try, selecting the "Play" option in Theater View always plays all the tracks in the current album as described in my previous post.  I surmise that these settings only apply to the Play button in the windowed interface and not to the Play option in Theater View.  Thus my problem is still not solved.

Regards
Lester

[SteveG]

Lisa,

Please don't swear

Let me know if you see it again. I cannot reproduce it.

Thanks,

Steve

[Alex B]

Changing or adding external cover art links in the database unnecessarily changes the disk files even if the Image File field is not specified to be written to the physical file tags.

I added and updated a lot of cover art files. Now I suddenly have 40 GB of audio files that have changed their last modified dates. I need to redo all backups because I have no way to separate the files that have real changes.

[d_pert]

Still getting "Incomplete Shutdown" in .305 after termination by Windows logoff/shutdown. No 3rd party plug-ins. Stop mode. No activity in MC at logoff/shutdown. Same since .303.

Thanks.

[Uwe]

Incomplete shut down:
same here, i go back to 11.297.

All in all MC seems to become more instable since 11.295 with hanging in the tracks with stuttering, the shut down problem and other little things.

Uwe

[modelmaker]

Incomplete shut down:
same here, i go back to 11.297.

Same Here. Jay

[giantblah]

I have noticed that when I change the volume from system volume to internal volume that the volume control disappears on the video display.  Is this a bug, or expected behavior?

[arsenal]

Using 11.0.305 now but noticed this behavior for a while now: When you add files to Now Playing with right-click in Explorer -> Media Center -> Play/Add to Playing Now (both those options), it queues all the tracks twice.   For instance, there's 20 mp3's in that dir, it queues tracks 1-20 then 1-20 again right below the first set.  I can't think of any options that would intentionally allow you to "add tracks to Playing Now 2x."  Bug, right?

[arsenal]

I also noticed when upgrading to 11.0.305 that it kept all my selected options from the prior version I had installed except the shell integration.  Not sure if that was by design or not to not return that setting back to how it was before upgrading..

[Tim Harvey]

This might be a silly question, but why in my MC 11.0.297 version fail to see any updates when I goto 'Help->Check for Updates' if the latest version is 11.0.305?

[modelmaker]

While MC is in beta, you have to manually update to the next build. The auto-update isn't turned on until MC is released, which was build 304 or 305. You're still running 297.

[Alex B]

There seems to be a serious renaming bug. MC rewrites all file tags instead of just changing the filenames. The files will be completely rewritten (= read the file > write to a temporally file > replace the original file) in those cases when the physical tags are in front of the files and no adequate padding is present in the used tag format. More details are here: http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=28672.0

[GHammer]

There seems to be a serious renaming bug. MC rewrites all file tags instead of just changing the filenames. The files will be completely rewritten (= read the file > write to a temporally file > replace the original file) in those cases when the physical tags are in front of the files and no adequate padding is present in the used tag format. More details are here: http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=28672.0

There are some other issues with this too.
I do not tag with MC.
I have changed Rating to not write to the file tag.

I rated some files along the way, removed ratings from some others.

Many files now have the comment Tool Version and several have multiple comments tags from different MC 11 builds.

The extra comment entries and writing the rating into the tags are why I do not tag with MC. And when I configure it not to write to tags, I really want it to honor the request.

[bytestar]

Media center very often does hang itself up, it runs no Plugins in the background and played only mp3

Code: [Select]

Ereignistyp: Fehler
Ereignisquelle: Application Hang
Ereigniskategorie: (101)
Ereigniskennung: 1002
Datum: 11.07.2005
Zeit: 09:38:45
Benutzer: Nicht zutreffend
Computer: RONNY
Beschreibung:
Stillstehende Anwendung Media Center.exe, Version 11.0.305.0, Stillstandmodul hungapp, Version 0.0.0.0, Stillstandadresse 0x00000000.

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