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chrisjj

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Freedb
« on: August 05, 2005, 04:37:14 pm »

How do I get Media Center to lookup from freedb rather than the publisher's own yadb? Thanks.
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Re: Freedb
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2005, 04:49:04 pm »

MC cannot connect FreeDB, but it can read the cdplayer.ini file (located in the Windows folder).

You could use e.g. Audiograbber for getting the info from FreeDB. It can write the CD info to cdplayer.ini file. Just insert the CD and let AG download the info.

In MC you can right-click the CD drive icon ín the tree (under Drives & Devices) and select "Update from CDPlayer.ini"

Also, you could upload the CD info to MC's YADB database before ripping if that is not too much trouble.

Another free program named simply as Player (It can only play CDs) can do the same with Gracenote.

In this way you can access all three databases when trying to find rare info.
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Re: Freedb
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2005, 05:05:30 pm »

Ah, shame. Thanks fo the workaround. Strange no plug-in writer has thought to cover Freedb and CDDB. It would be very useful.
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Re: Freedb
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2005, 05:37:12 pm »

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Re: Freedb
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2005, 05:56:46 pm »

I guess MC doesn't have a plug-in interface for the ripping part.

Gracenote would anyway be a problem since it is not free.

Here is the Player link: http://www.vuplayer.com/player.php. Audiograbber is easy to find with Google.

However, I would not recommend using AG for ripping. I did that before I found EAC and MJ/MC. I have re-ripped most of those old CDs because of occasional rip errors. Use MC in the secure mode. In my opinion the only good rippers that have a correctly working secure mode are MJ/MC, EAC and Plextools (works only with Plextor drives). MC is the easiest to configure and use.
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Re: Freedb
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2005, 05:58:24 pm »

Why not?
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Re: Freedb
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2005, 06:15:43 pm »

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Re: Freedb
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2005, 06:58:31 pm »

All your bases are belong to us.

No

Would You Believe RR Changed My Service Over To Business Class (It Took Them 5 Days) And Today No Service After 9:30 am. I Called Them Up A Few Min's Ago the first Tech Said I Had To Wait Till Monday. Then I Called Back And The Lady Said They Forgot To Enable The Modem.

Then I Found Out They Changed My E-mail Address Without telling me the new one.

Been pulling my hair out all day

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Re: Freedb
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2006, 04:56:32 pm »

this thread is THE BOMB.....with freedb going offline I just downloaded the current database for local lokkups.

Thanks so much for this!!!

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Re: Freedb
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2006, 06:06:14 pm »

I really don't see the interest in FreeDB since the way the data is setup where you can have like 8 identical id's and they are divided by Genre.

How many genres are there, to include all the home made genres.

it was really kind of dumb
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Re: Freedb
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2006, 07:24:27 am »

Not wishing to put a cat amongst the pigeons, but what about a plug-in that circumvents the MC tie in to YADB?  The plug-in could lookup somewhere else, save the information in the CD.ini, then MC could read from that.
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Re: Freedb
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2006, 07:47:16 am »

I don't know if MC's plugin interface allows to call the needed functions.

If possible that kind of plugin could also invoke the "submit to YADB" part in case the CD didn't already exist there.

In any case the future of freedb is still uncertain. Probably it will continue, but there is no guarantee of that. (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=34523.0)
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Re: Freedb
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2006, 09:01:52 am »

All your base are belong to us.

T,FTFY

(Hysterical that that is the exact example I gave when I submitted that term to Urban Dictionary.  Odd coincidence...)
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Re: Freedb
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2006, 11:22:03 am »

T,FTFY

(Hysterical that that is the exact example I gave when I submitted that term to Urban Dictionary.  Odd coincidence...)

Are You Saying JimH Is An Old Timer?

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Re: Freedb
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2006, 11:42:56 am »

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don't know if MC's plugin interface allows to call the needed functions.

If possible that kind of plugin could also invoke the "submit to YADB" part in case the CD didn't already exist there.

I talked to Matt about this once for a work around, the work around would work but it would be clumsy so it never happened.

there is or was no way to let the plug-in read the cd and then push this info into MC so the current cd would get the data. The only way was to save the data to the "cdplayer.ini" and then force MC to read the "cdplayer.ini" manually.

so this was not a viable solution

another way would be if you create a program to read the freeDB data and convert that info into the same format as "cdplayer.ini" file and replace the "cdplayer.ini" in the windows folder and then force MC to read it manually

the problem is:

1. this "cdplayer.ini" file would be Huge
2. this may not work
3. this will be slow if it does work
4. did i say the "cdplayer.ini" file would be huge?

that's why i left this message

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on a day that my ISP decided to screw with me, i was not mad at J River I Was Mad At My ISP. maybe i should have explained this earlier, but i kind of felt it (it being A free DB or A Gracenote plug-in) was a dead issue.

Along with there could be legal reasons why there would never be a CDDB\Gracenote plug-in since CDDB would then take me and J river to court for stealing data from Gracenote to enhance YADB or FreeDB's database, and this was the case a few years back when CDDB\Gracenote took Roxio to court for the same infraction.

And I Would Never do that to JimH Or J River. (Putting JRiver Or JimH into a awkward poisson)
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Re: Freedb
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2006, 01:06:49 pm »

Are You Saying JimH Is An Old Timer?


No, I guess I'm saying he's a noob and I'm the old timer.  He said:

All your bases are belong to us.

The correct quote is:

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All your base are belong to us.

So, I fixed it for him.   ;)

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