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LonWar

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Copy Disk File --- FIX Request
« on: January 31, 2006, 02:06:01 pm »

Hello... Currently when you use this, all of the files are copied into 1 folder. Can this be changed to allow you to put it in a folder structure like Artist - Album?
It could be a great function, but currently it is a pain.

If I use it it drops all of my files into 1 folder, So if I have a track that is on more then 1 album, it will not copy.


I had asked for this awhile ago, but the thread got lost somewere...... This seems easy enough?
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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2006, 11:45:37 am »

I agree with this one.... Right now, the Copy Disk File feature is really limited in its usefulness...

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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2006, 07:42:41 pm »

Bump....

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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2006, 08:50:26 pm »

You can set up a psuedo-handheld device as a folder somewhere and sync to it. The sync ability can create appropriate folder structures. Admittedly, this is a lot of overhead for a simple copy, so I'll lend my support for this request.
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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2006, 02:14:26 am »

add my voice to the "aye's" (I back the motion) :)

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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2006, 09:03:11 am »

Sent my Acoustic Genre over to my sever via File Disc Copy. Eeek! No folders, just files!
No big deal but I would rather have Artist/Album folder structure.

I'm definitely in on this one!
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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2006, 02:13:56 pm »

In other words:

The "Rename from properties" tool doesn't have tick boxes for "Make a copy of the original file" and "Update/don't update the database when leaving the original behind".

The Move & Copy tools should have options for directory creation and file naming rules.

Also, an option for adding sequence numbers in front of the filenames would be nice. This is available when burning data CDs, but it would be useful when copying files too.

These options are available in separate tools/functions, but merging them into one tool should be high on the to-do list.
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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2006, 02:54:52 pm »

For me to actually make this work, I have to rename Files from [Track #] - [Name] to [Album] - [Track #] - [Name] do the copy , Import, Rename the files back to  [Track #] - [Name] annd select the path.


So this would definately save a lot of steps.   
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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2006, 03:00:07 pm »

Here is a quick mockup of how I would like to have the options in the "Rename Files From Properties" tool:



I also added a drop-down menu to the Base Path dialog. It could store the previously used strings.
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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2006, 03:08:21 pm »

Also add the ability to define the rules in "Rename Files Using..." based on media type!
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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2006, 03:42:13 pm »

Also add the ability to define the rules in "Rename Files Using..." based on media type!
I've got this working really well here using a couple of expressions, one for filename and one for directories.

What I really need to make the rename tool complete (on top of the afore mentioned items) is for the 'base path' to accept expressions too. Then I'd be able to send different media types or genres to different drives and have them named correctly, simply by loading the dialogue and hitting the OK button.

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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2006, 09:23:00 pm »

I've got this working really well here using a couple of expressions, one for filename and one for directories.

What I really need to make the rename tool complete (on top of the afore mentioned items) is for the 'base path' to accept expressions too. Then I'd be able to send different media types or genres to different drives and have them named correctly, simply by loading the dialogue and hitting the OK button.

You got my attention Marko.

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Oh, and add my support to what AlexB asked for.
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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2006, 07:23:57 am »

Bump......

This little fix would really make my life easier.... It's a function that I use alot.....      8)
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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2006, 03:40:16 pm »

You got my attention Marko.

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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2006, 12:44:03 pm »

This would be excellent, I still use "The God Father" (TGF) mp3 tool for this but MC integration would be nice :-)
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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2006, 01:51:51 pm »

Time for the end of page 2 .........B U M P ..........    8)

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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2006, 12:19:47 pm »

Weekly Bump......

I have to be getting on someones nerve's.....  Maybe you just want to add/modify this just to shut me up?  I can be bribed.
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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2006, 08:03:54 pm »

I agree this would be nice for MC11 before we see a final.

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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2006, 01:48:31 pm »

I agree, Gamer.  And it wouldn't seem too terribly difficult to implement.  Alex B provided a good idea of what it could look like.  This issue is keeping "copy disk file" from becoming a best-practice for track backup within MC.
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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2006, 12:30:11 pm »

Would it helped if I begged?

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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2006, 08:47:49 am »

I know that not everbody's requests see the light of day.... But this just seems like an easy thing to modify, and something that should have always been there. The Copy Disk File now is really useless depending on how people name there files.

I name mine   [Track #]-[Name]
So, If I copy over all Rolling Stones, I get a window that says duplicate file, would you like to replace this with this.....

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I have just upgraded my computer with a obsein amount of storage space, and this enhancement would make file back up so much easier....

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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2006, 09:06:36 am »

This is how I know it's Monday, Gamer's bumping the "disk copy" thread.  Same here, FWIW.
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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2006, 10:59:13 am »

Gamer you mentioned backup and using the Copy Disk file function...

i used a program called syncback for this...works great.

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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2006, 11:15:08 am »

Syncback is a great backup program, but I wouldn't consider it as a solution. (I know you didn't mean that.)

We need an internal MC solution. We need this functionality for partial selections of the library. MC already has the needed functions in various separate tools. The functions should just be combined into a single tool.
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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2006, 11:20:12 am »

Gamer you mentioned backup and using the Copy Disk file function...

i used a program called syncback for this...works great.



I know there are programs that will do that,  But there are other reasons I would use this.

Thanks for the suggestion
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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2006, 08:53:21 am »

This is how I know it's Monday, Gamer's bumping the "disk copy" thread.  Same here, FWIW.

Hey JGreen..... Just your reminder... It's Monday...    ;D


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Any chance that this will see the light of day?
Is this really that hard to implement?
Any chance of JRiver chiming in here?
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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2006, 09:02:03 am »

This is going to save me $19.95/year on calendars!  Although, I'll sure miss the pictures . . .
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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #27 on: March 27, 2006, 09:53:22 am »

Er, Gamer?  Everything okay?  It's Monday . . .
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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #28 on: March 27, 2006, 10:05:13 am »

Er, Gamer?  Everything okay?  It's Monday . . .

Was just coming here to nag JRiver some more..... Got a little busy this morning......

So guys, You getting sick of this thread yet? All you have to do is this one little tiny thing.

Oh, this would have come in VERY handy this weekend.



This is what I have to do as a work around.


Rename Files to [Album]-[Track#]-[Name]
Copy Files to X
Rename Files to [Track #]-[Name]   Make sure that I set the right folder structure.
Rename originals to [Track#]-[Name]

This may not be a big deal with a few files, But my Library is fairly big.



I don't get it, Is it actually that hard to implement??
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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #29 on: April 03, 2006, 09:04:19 am »

I do understand that not all threads get answered by JRiver.... But this thread has been around since 1/31..... Any chance of a comment?

Example of a comment....   Will be done next build.....     ;)

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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #30 on: April 03, 2006, 09:14:46 am »

Gamer, I think this was solved some time ago.  See my post re/ Virtual Devices.  At least it appears to have solved my request.
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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #31 on: April 03, 2006, 09:37:19 am »

Gamer, I think this was solved some time ago.  See my post re/ Virtual Devices.  At least it appears to have solved my request.

hmm, I'll check this out....  It may work as a workaround..... But I don't copy all the files to the same place... So this is a bit of a pain.


The copy function is already there, Why is it a big deal to add the folder requirements?
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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #32 on: April 03, 2006, 09:45:27 am »

Maybe you need to up the ante a bit, have a bump request on a Thursday as well.
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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #33 on: April 03, 2006, 11:25:14 am »

Gamer, I think this was solved some time ago. See my post re/ Virtual Devices. At least it appears to have solved my request.

The virtual handheld is a nice function. I have used it a lot.

However, I need to change the configuration often and that is quite awkward. Also, the synch process is not nearly as nice and flexible as this would be:

Here is a quick mockup of how I would like to have the options in the "Rename Files From Properties" tool:



I also added a drop-down menu to the Base Path dialog. It could store the previously used strings.
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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #34 on: April 03, 2006, 11:51:19 am »

Alex, pardon my catching up to the basics here.  It seems to me that the virtual device is superior, or would be, if we can enable persistence.  That is, when I eject my ipod, I still want to see it as an icon in devices, and I want to browse the contents as reported in the last sync.  Similarly, my backup drives.  I want to sync them using virtual devices, remove them, and still see them and browse them, until I select "Remove and Ignore".  Is this currently doable?

As for different settings, MC seems to tolerate multiple virtual device that go to the same folder, so why couldn't you create a device for each setting?  That is, unless there's no persistence . . .
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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #35 on: April 03, 2006, 02:49:04 pm »

The virtual handheld is a nice function. I have used it a lot.

However, I need to change the configuration often and that is quite awkward. Also, the synch process is not nearly as nice and flexible as this would be:

Here here!  What he said...

Also, its nice that it's Monday again and time to look at gamer's thread.   ;)
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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #36 on: April 10, 2006, 08:50:40 am »

Guess what...... It's M O N D A Y....


Time to bring this thread back on the first page for the 10th week!!

I'm thinking, either there gonna add this, or ban me.... They can't ignore this forever..... Can they?


This would have come in handy this weekend....

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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #37 on: April 17, 2006, 06:56:35 am »

*Yawn, gets up.  Reads the paper, Makes Breakfast. Checks Gamers thread...*

Oh no looks like I'm a bit early.

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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #38 on: April 18, 2006, 05:58:05 pm »

 ;D

Maybe Gamer's given up.... Nah.  He's stubborn like that.
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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #39 on: April 19, 2006, 09:05:24 am »

;D

Maybe Gamer's given up.... Nah.  He's stubborn like that.

Nope didn't give up....  Have you been talking to my wife? She says I'm stubborn to!!     8)


I was busy at work, Mon and Tues....


Since this thread isn't getting any love on Monday... Thought I'd bring this up on Wed instead.... Maybe catch JRiver by surprise.


OK, guy's you have had your fun, and giggles with this.... I'm, getting a little bored bringing this up every week.... Will this be FIXED (I do not consider this a enhancement. The current way this works does not make sence.)

Will this be done in 11.1?   Easy answer YES or NO

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Re: Copy Disk File --- FIX Request
« Reply #40 on: April 19, 2006, 09:16:39 am »

Sorry, but there will be no more new features in Media Center 11.  Media Center provides several ways to manage disk files. (My Computer, Move/Copy Disk Files, Rename From Properties, Virtual Handheld)

AlexB's enhancement proposal looks good to us.  We'll see if we can do something like that for version 12.

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Re: Copy Disk File --- FIX Request
« Reply #41 on: April 19, 2006, 09:25:46 am »

Move/Copy Disk Files

Fair enough....

However, this is not a function that works...


If I have a group of files that I want to copy, and I use this function it will overwrite any file that is the same. I keep all of my files named   [Track#]-[Name]... Since Track 1 Song Battery, can appear on multiple albums as track 1, (This happens frequently in my Library) if I use the Copy function, I get a box that asks if I want to overrite the file....

As a temperary solution, can you allow MC to add a (1) to the file name if it's a duplicate name?  That would allow me to use this function.


Thanks,
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Re: Copy Disk File --- FIX Request
« Reply #42 on: April 19, 2006, 10:08:16 am »

The function works as designed, although you may not agree with the design.  We can revisit this in MC 12.
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Re: Copy Disk File --- FIX Request
« Reply #43 on: April 19, 2006, 10:50:35 am »

I think that's fair enough Matt.

It's obvious that they're prepping for starting work on MC12 (and maybe even have been secretly working on it without releasing any builds yet).

For now, Gamer, I've been using the Virtual Handheld option.  While AlexB's suggestion would be much more elegant, that method does work fairly well.
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Re: Copy Disk File --- Enhancement Request
« Reply #44 on: April 19, 2006, 10:53:45 am »

Since this thread isn't getting any love on Monday... Thought I'd bring this up on Wed instead.... Maybe catch JRiver by surprise.

It looks like this worked too.  Maybe when we want things that are really a pain, we just need to ask on Wednesdays...   :o   ;D
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Re: Copy Disk File --- FIX Request
« Reply #45 on: April 19, 2006, 11:52:22 am »

I think that's fair enough Matt.

It's obvious that they're prepping for starting work on MC12 (and maybe even have been secretly working on it without releasing any builds yet).

For now, Gamer, I've been using the Virtual Handheld option.  While AlexB's suggestion would be much more elegant, that method does work fairly well.

I tried the HH Option, It worked all right, but the cover art in the music file didn't transfer.


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Maybe when we want things that are really a pain, we just need to ask on Wednesdays...     


Ya, that is kinda funny.... At least I have a answer.... I can wait till 12.    8)





That being said.... Once 12 starts... I will remember this thread...


JGreen, Sorry, I'm going to retire your Monday Alarm clock.....   Until v12 anyway.        8)


Thanks Matt!
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Re: Copy Disk File --- FIX Request
« Reply #46 on: August 21, 2006, 02:34:04 pm »

The function works as designed, although you may not agree with the design.  We can revisit this in MC 12.

Monday Bump?

Hey Matt.... Any good new about this?
Does JGreen get his Monday alarm clock back?
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Re: Copy Disk File --- FIX Request
« Reply #47 on: December 20, 2007, 08:27:53 am »

AlexB's enhancement proposal looks good to us.  We'll see if we can do something like that for version 12.

A gentle bump...

(Where's gamer anyway?)
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Re: Copy Disk File --- FIX Request
« Reply #48 on: December 20, 2007, 08:29:51 am »

(Where's gamer anyway?)

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