Topic: Lyrics Editor (Read 5585 times)

Magic_Randy · « **on:** September 30, 2006, 06:19:21 pm »

Doof,

I can't get the color indicators to work in MC12. Is it just me?

Randy

KingSparta · « **Reply #1 on:** September 30, 2006, 06:25:01 pm »

it may because the way MC now forces a skin color to some controls

Magic_Randy · « **Reply #2 on:** September 30, 2006, 08:53:26 pm »

Quote from: KingSparta on September 30, 2006, 06:25:01 pm

it may because the way MC now forces a skin color to some controls

Maybe that's it. I find it very handy to use color's to indicate if lyrics are missing. I hope the MC12 design does not prevent this.

Magic_Randy · « **Reply #3 on:** October 01, 2006, 10:54:58 am »

Doof,

When you verify Lyrics Editor with MC12, could you check it against the standard Noire skin with and without Negative Skin Effect? My guess is that most people using the new Noire default skin are using the Negative Skin Effect.

Other than small adjustments for skin compatibility – the only issue I have found is the one relating to colors (the opening in this thread)

I know all of this is presumptive – but I now depend on your plug-in.

Randy

glynor · « **Reply #4 on:** October 02, 2006, 12:47:56 pm »

Quote from: Magic_Randy on October 01, 2006, 10:54:58 am

My guess is that most people using the new Noire default skin are using the Negative Skin Effect.

Why would you guess that?

Magic_Randy · « **Reply #5 on:** October 02, 2006, 03:52:37 pm »

Quote from: glynor on October 02, 2006, 12:47:56 pm

Why would you guess that?

My guess is because of the white background - when you do a right click, as an example in the details pane, the background of the drop down is also white. This makes it hard to read (white on white). When you use the negative effect - everything is clear.

Maybe my guess is wrong - but that is why I guessed the way I did.

dcwebman · « **Reply #6 on:** October 02, 2006, 06:22:30 pm »

Everyone always has their own opinion. I personally don't like the Negative effect - too much black. Instead, I got rid of the transparent menus and have no problem seeing the menus now.

Magic_Randy · « **Reply #7 on:** October 02, 2006, 10:09:34 pm »

Quote from: dcwebman on October 02, 2006, 06:22:30 pm

Everyone always has their own opinion. I personally don't like the Negative effect - too much black. Instead, I got rid of the transparent menus and have no problem seeing the menus now.

I looked all over and could not find an option to turn off the transparent menus. With a search I found a thread that discusses it. There is no option, you have to modify the skin.

I also found that glynor has come to the rescue. You can download SolidNoire from her. Thanks glynor

With transparent menus off, the screen is much more readable. I still like negative, but it is very black. At least now I can go back and forth when I need a change of pace. $:-\$

BartMan01 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 03, 2006, 12:13:34 am »

Quote from: Magic_Randy on October 02, 2006, 03:52:37 pm

My guess is because of the white background - when you do a right click, as an example in the details pane, the background of the drop down is also white. This makes it hard to read (white on white). When you use the negative effect - everything is clear.

Maybe my guess is wrong - but that is why I guessed the way I did.

No problems reading the standard skin here. White on black on the other hand gives me a headache - I hate when web pages go that route and don't bother even trying to use them.

Results will depend on personal preferences and the quality/brightness of your monitor.

dcwebman · « **Reply #9 on:** October 03, 2006, 07:58:32 am »

Quote from: Magic_Randy on October 02, 2006, 10:09:34 pm

I also found that glynor has come to the rescue. You can download SolidNoire from her. Thanks glynor

That's how I got my solid menus. I was finally going to go in and modify it myself until glynor posted the change. If it hasn't yet been submitted to JRiver's skin page, it should be.

Doof · « **Reply #10 on:** October 03, 2006, 09:25:54 am »

MC12 broke the plugin. I've tried to use MC's built in methods for turning off skinning of the plugin, but I can't get it to work, and I think the JRiver guys are a little busy to try and help me figure it out.

glynor · « **Reply #11 on:** October 03, 2006, 10:10:43 am »

Quote from: Magic_Randy on October 02, 2006, 10:09:34 pm

I also found that glynor has come to the rescue. You can download SolidNoire from him. Thanks glynor

T,FTFY

(I know my avatar's a girl, but that's my friend Christina. Sorry!)

I haven't submitted it myself yet because I wasn't sure if they'd want MC12 skins available on there until after the Beta program is opened up to everyone. You know, the secrecy and all that. As soon as it's opened up, I'll submit it.

glynor · « **Reply #12 on:** October 03, 2006, 10:17:26 am »

Doof -

Just wanted to say, from your web site:

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Contact Me

On second thought, don't.

Classic.

Magic_Randy · « **Reply #13 on:** October 03, 2006, 11:47:10 am »

Quote from: glynor on October 03, 2006, 10:10:43 am

T,FTFY

(I know my avatar's a girl, but that's my friend Christina. Sorry!)

So much for assumptions. Anyway, thanks...

Doof · « **Reply #14 on:** October 03, 2006, 11:50:03 pm »

Quote from: dcwebman on October 02, 2006, 06:22:30 pm

Everyone always has their own opinion. I personally don't like the Negative effect - too much black. Instead, I got rid of the transparent menus and have no problem seeing the menus now.

I personally think Noire w/Negative effect is ugly as sin.

glynor · « **Reply #15 on:** October 03, 2006, 11:52:03 pm »

Quote from: Doof on October 03, 2006, 11:50:03 pm

I personally think Noire w/Negative effect is ugly as sin.

That's why I asked why he assumed that.

glynor · « **Reply #16 on:** October 03, 2006, 11:53:40 pm »

Quote from: Magic_Randy on October 03, 2006, 11:47:10 am

So much for assumptions. Anyway, thanks...

S'all Good.

Magic_Randy · « **Reply #17 on:** October 04, 2006, 12:39:08 am »

Quote from: Doof on October 03, 2006, 11:50:03 pm

I personally think Noire w/Negative effect is ugly as sin.

As long as I'm assuming wrong on everything - I assume you won't make a Noire Negative look to your plug-in.

But in anycase, this is a great plug-in so I'll use it regardless.

You must admit, Noire Negative will be great for halloween.

Doof · « **Reply #18 on:** October 04, 2006, 10:29:10 am »

Quote from: Magic_Randy on October 04, 2006, 12:39:08 am

As long as I'm assuming wrong on everything - I assume you won't make a Noire Negative look to your plug-in.

You won't so easily lure me in with your reverse psychology...

Besides, the Negative effect seems to affect my plugin, too. Nothing like white text on a black background!

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But in anycase, this is a great plug-in so I'll use it regardless.

Thanks. One of these days (if I can ever pry myself away from my new 57" HDTV) I'll have to get around to updating it. A couple of requested features are already in, and one of two bug fixes (I think). I just got hung up on one other bug and never got around to finishing it.

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You must admit, Noire Negative will be great for halloween.

It's actually not the black that bugs me. It's the whole player bar area. It definitely wasn't designed to be that color. Maybe a combination of the default Noire player bar with the rest of the skin looking like the Negative version would be pretty cool.

Magic_Randy · « **Reply #19 on:** October 04, 2006, 11:54:48 pm »

Quote from: Doof on October 04, 2006, 10:29:10 am

a combination of the default Noire player bar with the rest of the skin looking like the Negative version would be pretty cool

I agree

Even the standard Noire messes up your plug-in, I'm not sure why that happens. Also they did something to screw up your color indicators which are very handy.

The biggest problem I see with Noire (other than it messing up your plug-in) are the menus when you do a right click. I agree that using SolidNoire helps, but they are still harder to see than any other skin I've looked at.

Magic_Randy · « **Reply #20 on:** October 15, 2006, 11:18:40 am »

Doof,

Have they (J River) given you any of the tools needed to fix the color feature (different color for no lyrics, have lyrics,..)? I saw they did something to disable skinning for plug-ins but I don’t know if that is the same thing you need for this.

This small feature really improves productivity, especially when reviewing a large amount of data.

Randy

Doof · « **Reply #21 on:** October 16, 2006, 10:50:05 am »

Yeah, the color problem has been taken care of. I just haven't released the version that has that fix in it.

If you're comfortable with registry editting, there's a new registry setting that they added to MC12 that would probably do the trick with the current version of Lyrics Editor, but I don't have the time right now to dig it up. It was talked about in the MC12 forum, though.

Magic_Randy · « **Reply #22 on:** October 16, 2006, 12:25:19 pm »

Quote from: Doof on October 16, 2006, 10:50:05 am

Yeah, the color problem has been taken care of. I just haven't released the version that has that fix in it.

If you're comfortable with registry editting, there's a new registry setting that they added to MC12 that would probably do the trick with the current version of Lyrics Editor, but I don't have the time right now to dig it up. It was talked about in the MC12 forum, though.

Doof,

Thanks...

Randy

KingSparta · « **Reply #23 on:** October 16, 2006, 12:57:58 pm »

All you need to do is go into the plug-in registry keys and add key "Skin" and make the value "0"

this should fix it.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\JRiver\Media Jukebox\Plugins\Interface\Plug-In Name\Skin = Value 0

Matt Came Up With A Very Clean Way To Fix The Problem

dcwebman · « **Reply #24 on:** October 16, 2006, 01:04:19 pm »

I don't have that registry line for Lyrics Editor. I'll wait until Doof releases his latest version.

Magic_Randy · « **Reply #25 on:** October 22, 2006, 05:37:18 pm »

Quote from: dcwebman on October 16, 2006, 01:04:19 pm

I don't have that registry line for Lyrics Editor. I'll wait until Doof releases his latest version.

Doof,

I don't have that line in the registry either.

Is it possible you could release the version you updated?

Thanks... Randy

Magic_Randy · « **Reply #26 on:** October 26, 2006, 12:06:16 am »

Quote from: Magic_Randy on October 22, 2006, 05:37:18 pm

I don't have that line in the registry either.

Doof,

We are not having luck finding the registry setting, but I think that may be only used for skinning anyway. The color control within the controls themselves is probably something different. This is where you allow us to set options on what color to use if lyrics exist or are missing.

Is it possible you could release the version you updated?

Thanks... Randy

Mr ChriZ · « **Reply #27 on:** October 26, 2006, 03:04:07 am »

You can just add the key guys as Kingsparta suggests, it won't break anything.
And the colours are broken because it's not set.

dcwebman · « **Reply #28 on:** October 26, 2006, 08:31:06 am »

Yes, adding it yourself does fix the problem. To be clear, the whole key is:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\JRiver\Media Jukebox\Plugins\Interface\Lyrics Editor\Skin with value of 0. Skin is defined as a String Value.

jgreen · « **Reply #29 on:** October 26, 2006, 06:48:56 pm »

Thanks, DC, that worked like a charm. Following your reg path (and with Sparta's guidance), I was able to do this also. Randy, if the prospect of tweaking reg settings turns your stomache like it did mine, I will gladly post step-by-step instructions.

Magic_Randy · « **Reply #30 on:** October 26, 2006, 09:36:36 pm »

I hate (am afraid of) 2 things. Spiders and editing the registry. My wife takes care of the spiders, so I don't have to worry about that one.

jgreen, I appreciate your offer, but decided to hold my breath and give it a go.

It worked.

Doof · « **Reply #31 on:** October 26, 2006, 11:15:34 pm »

I just posted Lyrics Editor 2.12.

Details in this thread.

INTERACT FORUM

Author Topic: Lyrics Editor (Read 5585 times)