Topic: What about a native mac osx version of MC??? (Read 25444 times)

tranceConscious · « **on:** November 12, 2006, 07:19:53 pm »

I think it would be great if we had a Mac OS X version of this beauty of a program...

Has anyone considered?

JimH · « **Reply #1 on:** November 13, 2006, 05:38:56 am »

We think about OSX and Linux all the time, but it's a formidable development project and I don't think it would bring a lot of new sales. Maybe some day.

tranceConscious · « **Reply #2 on:** November 13, 2006, 07:24:43 am »

I think I will disagree with u.

If the best os finally gets the best audio/video/pic management software, that will probably boost sales...

iTunes sucks big time, and there is no other decent media player for the macs...

Just think about it...

glynor · « **Reply #3 on:** November 13, 2006, 11:42:18 am »

Just thought I'd again add my support for both OSX and Linux versions of MC. I too think that the market for it could be larger than you might think, especially on OSX. True, there are a few mac-zealots that wouldn't use anything but iTunes (suckers), but also keep in mind...

A very large chunk of that small OSX user base are multimedia, sound, and graphic arts professionals, who could really use a powerful system like MC (and which otherwise doesn't exist for OSX).

However, that being said, I'm certainly aware that porting to OSX and Linux would be No Small Task^TM, considering that a sizable portion of MC's code depends on DirectShow and (now) Direct3D. I'm sure the effort would be only a few steps short of monumental.

However, it is also my suspicion that you guys put a very heavy focus on making sure your code is well encapsulated, and a lot of MC's architecture seems built on a plug-in object type system. This could, if it was done well (and I suspect it was) mean that it would be far easier to swap in OSX and/or Linux compatible components to replace the stuff built on proprietary Windows components, than it would be for most software vendors.

I guess that doesn't make it easy really... Just possible.

Here's hoping!

(Oh, and if you ever do, I'll certainly buy it and so would a hunk of my co-workers.)

nad2001 · « **Reply #4 on:** November 13, 2006, 06:01:21 pm »

Quote from: tranceConscious on November 13, 2006, 07:24:43 am

iTunes sucks big time, and there is no other decent media player for the macs...

That sounds like a compliment... and I think I am the only one who think ipod/mac is worst than iTunes...

sapnho · « **Reply #5 on:** November 15, 2006, 12:34:04 pm »

A MC OSX version would be a dream come true.

Seriously, MC is the only reason why I still run Windows/Parallels on Mac.

tranceConscious · « **Reply #6 on:** November 15, 2006, 12:58:34 pm »

I think we should do something like a poll thread to see how many people would pay to get an OSX version of our beauty/beast

glynor · « **Reply #7 on:** November 15, 2006, 02:36:36 pm »

As Jay said in Mallrats...

DO IT DOUG!!

park · « **Reply #8 on:** November 15, 2006, 08:10:27 pm »

I'm considering getting a Mac next year. Pretty much the only thing holding me back now that adobe are going to port the production suite over, is Media Center.
I imagine that things would run ok under parrallels though, and futher bootcamp development, and upcoming virtualisation in cpus for simultaneous use of 2 os's seems promising for the future.

glynor · « **Reply #9 on:** November 15, 2006, 08:44:12 pm »

Quote from: park on November 15, 2006, 08:10:27 pm

I'm considering getting a Mac next year. Pretty much the only thing holding me back now that adobe are going to port the production suite over, is Media Center.
I imagine that things would run ok under parrallels though, and futher bootcamp development, and upcoming virtualisation in cpus for simultaneous use of 2 os's seems promising for the future.

Upcoming virtualization?

That's what Parallels Desktop is! Vanderpool support (Intel's virtualization acceleration technology) is included in all of the current Macs.

Also, BootCamp works very well (though it is still officially beta until Leopard comes out). They've now fixed the SATA disk performance issue that there was eariler-on. Using Windows XP on a Mac Pro is now indistinguishable from using Windows XP on a Dell, except for the weird keyboard (and you can get a USB PC keyboard if you want), and the fact that you have to choose at boot which OS to use. In fact, a Mac Pro is a very nice windows workstation for the money (and costs pretty much the same as a similarly configured Dell). Is it a cheap windows Workstation? No... But then it isn't supposed to be a cheap line of computers. It's the Alienware or XPS of the brand.

MacBooks on the other hand? I'd either get a non-Pro MacBook or (better) wait for the "next generation" of them Q2-3 of next year probably. There have been a lot of problems with the MacBook Pros. The one we got at work has been relatively fine, but I've read a lot of reports about them... Typical Apple version 1 stuff. The Mac Pros and MacBooks have been reportedly much better...

If I buy a laptop, it'll definitely be an Apple. I like the way they work and frankly, they're a lot more versatile now. I can use Windows, same as always, and if I feel like it I can boot to OSX and use Apple apps. Best of both worlds.

(Creative Suite 3 will be universal, supposedly Q2 2007 and Office runs fine as is, but is due in late 2007 -- but it's Microsoft so who knows...)

stefansmith · « **Reply #10 on:** November 15, 2006, 10:34:51 pm »

Me too. MC is the ONLY piece of sotware that is stopping me from totally shifting to Mac.

If MC came out on Linux, I;d even switch to that.

craft · « **Reply #11 on:** November 25, 2006, 02:38:20 pm »

Listener · « **Reply #12 on:** November 25, 2006, 08:17:44 pm »

Quote from: stefansmith on November 15, 2006, 10:34:51 pm

Me too. MC is the ONLY piece of sotware that is stopping me from totally shifting to Mac.

Me too. (but not Linux.)

Bill

TimB · « **Reply #13 on:** December 15, 2006, 10:37:33 am »

I'm going Mac right around MacWorld next year and MC is one of the few reasons I'll have to run Parallels.

-=Tim=-

Matthew · « **Reply #14 on:** December 15, 2006, 11:34:20 am »

I believe that if JRiver Media Center does port to Mac OS X.
Sales will be unbelievable. The fact is there is no such thing
as Media Center for the mac. Think about it...there is no program
like JRiver Media Center...I'm not kidding. It will be the
number one program downloaded for Macintosh. Imagine, playing media
files, music, pictures and alot more on Mac OS x will be unbelievable.

Marc · « **Reply #15 on:** December 15, 2006, 11:57:13 pm »

Quote from: stefansmith on November 15, 2006, 10:34:51 pm

Me too. MC is the ONLY piece of sotware that is stopping me from totally shifting to Mac.

If MC came out on Linux, I;d even switch to that.

I'd like to go one further. I'd be willing to re-buy MC-4-MAC (at the $40 price) in advance, as if I were a new customer. I will commit to being part of the Alpha/Beta test group, give useful feedback, and keep bitching to a minimum.

So JRiver, how many "commits" do you need before this becomes real? ?

sapnho · « **Reply #16 on:** December 16, 2006, 03:24:39 am »

Quote from: Matthew on December 15, 2006, 11:34:20 am

I believe that if JRiver Media Center does port to Mac OS X.
Sales will be unbelievable. The fact is there is no such thing
as Media Center for the mac. Think about it...there is no program
like JRiver Media Center...I'm not kidding. It will be the
number one program downloaded for Macintosh. Imagine, playing media
files, music, pictures and alot more on Mac OS x will be unbelievable.

I couldn't agree more. iTunes is not a media management software really. It's just a shop front end.

I would pay for a new Mac licence as well.

Afrosheen · « **Reply #17 on:** December 29, 2006, 05:19:36 pm »

I'll be in heaven if this becomes a reality, so here's my support for this too!

ThoBar · « **Reply #18 on:** December 29, 2006, 07:11:02 pm »

I'll add my vote for the Linux port

Just thinking about it (owww, the pain..), now that Macs are based on a BSD kernel, should that not make development of a Max / Linuc version somewhat more streamlined?

... not that I have any idea of the details or how big the project would be....

Matthew · « **Reply #19 on:** January 07, 2007, 10:04:23 am »

Jim, is it possible if you can add a support for in this forum to upload images directly to the forum, in a reply instead
of posting the images to a website. I have some images of what Media Center looks like in Mac OS X.

Mr ChriZ · « **Reply #20 on:** January 07, 2007, 10:10:14 am »

Quote from: Matthew on January 07, 2007, 10:04:23 am

Jim, is it possible if you can add a support for in this forum to upload images directly to the forum, in a reply instead
of posting the images to a website. I have some images of what Media Center looks like in Mac OS X.

Try www.Imageshack.us

Scarpad · « **Reply #21 on:** January 08, 2007, 02:42:33 pm »

Well I own a Mac Mini, and I've registered the PC version of MC, I would definately register the mac version.

Matthew · « **Reply #22 on:** January 08, 2007, 03:35:13 pm »

Here is Media Center in macintosh:

Larger image

donaldpage · « **Reply #23 on:** January 09, 2007, 08:35:53 am »

I just installed media center 12 using CrossOver for Mac - worked find for playing music. Complained about not having WMDM subsystem and DirectShow 8. Might play a bit more and see how far I get...

Afrosheen · « **Reply #24 on:** January 10, 2007, 06:39:35 pm »

Quote from: Matthew on January 08, 2007, 03:35:13 pm

Here is Media Center in macintosh:

Larger image

how'd you do that?

tranceConscious · « **Reply #25 on:** January 11, 2007, 02:04:28 am »

Well I think we're getting a little off topic here.

We all know that we can run windows apps in mac osx with one way or the other.

The thing is that we're waiting for a native mac osx version of mc.

Listener · « **Reply #26 on:** January 11, 2007, 01:38:49 pm »

Quote from: tranceConscious on January 11, 2007, 02:04:28 am

Well I think we're getting a little off topic here.

We all know that we can run windows apps in mac osx with one way or the other.

The thing is that we're waiting for a native mac osx version of mc.

I disagree. In the short term, it is valuable to know whether MC is usable in the BootCamp, Parallels or Crossover environments. To me, being able to run MC using Crossover under OSX is more useful than running it under Windows iwith Parallels. Running MC under Windows using BootCamp is not very useful since you won't have OSX running at the same time.

Specific questions:

1. Can rip CDs with MC in any of those environments?

2. Does MC play audio without any stalls and glitches? I might expect that virtualization or emulation might cause some real-time problems.

3. Does accessing files on the OSX formatted part of the hard disk work without glitches under these environments?

Bill

tranceConscious · « **Reply #27 on:** January 11, 2007, 04:05:22 pm »

I insist that all those questions are off topic mate.

This topic is about the native version of mc for osx and if & when it's gonna be out.

It's not a topic about parallels, bootcamp, crossover & no tips a tricks topic.

Start a new one

Listener · « **Reply #28 on:** January 11, 2007, 08:50:10 pm »

Until there is a native version of MC for OSX, valid alternatives are very relevant. You may not consider it relevant to this thread but there have been several useful posts with good info.

Bill

Marc · « **Reply #29 on:** January 13, 2007, 01:03:26 pm »

Quote from: Listener on January 11, 2007, 08:50:10 pm

...there have been several useful posts with good info.

I've found a few ideas I hadn't considered previously. Thanks everyone for the great information.

vine-au · « **Reply #30 on:** January 14, 2007, 09:03:46 pm »

i'd buy a second license just for my mac at work. best software ever

John Gateley · « **Reply #31 on:** January 18, 2007, 11:51:08 am »

Hi Y'all,

Those of you who have played with Media Center under OSX (or Linux), please consider contributing your experiences to the wiki:
http://wiki.jrmediacenter.com/index.php/Main_Page#Tips.2C_tricks.2C_and_extra_content

j

nickharambee · « **Reply #32 on:** January 19, 2007, 05:02:20 pm »

Quote from: sapnho on November 15, 2006, 12:34:04 pm

A MC OSX version would be a dream come true.

Seriously, MC is the only reason why I still run Windows/Parallels on Mac.

ditto. can't wait for a native mac os x version of MC

nick

glynor · « **Reply #33 on:** March 29, 2007, 12:49:49 pm »

I thought I'd mention...

If you're using MC on your Mac through Boot Camp, Apple released a new version of Boot Camp Beta recently (v1.2), which fixes some issues and adds a bunch of new features. One of these new features is support for the Apple Remote (which comes with a bunch of their computers now). Apple reports:

Quote

Support the Apple Remote (works with iTunes and Windows Media Player)

Well, I just tested it and it works perfectly well with MC too!! The Menu button doesn't do anything, but all the rest work as you'd expect (and I doubt that the Menu button works for WiMP either).

My MacBook Pro has otherwise been a bit more stable since updating the Boot Camp drivers. Specifically, an issue where my laptop completely hard-locks on login occasionally (I believe a result of the ATI Graphics drivers crashing and burning) has not returned thus far. That, and the trackpad seems quite a bit more reliable (I had instances previously where my trackpad would go "wiggy" and not allow me to control the computer at all until I rebooted).

leezer3 · « **Reply #34 on:** March 30, 2007, 06:25:39 am »

A small update from my own experiences with MC in Linux (MDK2007)

Cedega- In theory, this should work better than Crossover, as its designed for D3D & games. No such luck- The installer crashes with a memory error, and nothing works full-stop.
WINE- MC installs nicely, but crashes on launch (Shows the splash, & then MC crashes). I think this is something to do with the Windows media components; The current versions of WINE really don't like these.
Crossover- MC installs & runs, but doesn't play anything. I'm not sure why this is- Others seem to have had sucess in getting it to do something, but it simply fails to play anything.

-Leezer-

lvmcmwalk · « **Reply #35 on:** May 10, 2007, 01:02:07 pm »

i'LL gladly purchase a new MC for my Macbook Pro!!! Till the true MAC version of MC comes out! The primary advantage to having MC under MAC OS is not having to mess with ASIO to get around Windows corrupting the digital output via KMixer.

glynor · « **Reply #36 on:** June 08, 2007, 03:23:27 pm »

I thought I'd mention...

I just tried the new beta version of Parallel's Desktop 3.0 for OSX. The new version of Parallels is exciting because it includes 3D graphics support including DirectX and OpenGL acceleration. I was hoping, beyond hope, that this would mean it would play nicer with MC12.

As is, MC12 works well in Windowed and Full Screen modes in Parallels Desktop, including playing video and G-Force and all that fun stuff. However, the coolest feature of Parallel's Desktop by far is it's Coherance mode, which makes Windows applications look and act like OSX apps, including running from the Dock (and now the ability to even choose them as default applications for your specific file types). This is really pretty slick, if you haven't seen it...

Unfortunately, Coherance mode does NOT work with MC, even with the new DirectX acceleration feature enabled. MC launches, but acts really weird. It shows up in the dock, but sometimes disappears. And the UI "partially" appears on screen. (It's really weird... It's there, but you can only see some of it and the rest is cut off.) Too bad... I might not have my MacBook Pro set to boot Windows by default if only MC would work in Coherance mode well...

machinehead · « **Reply #37 on:** October 29, 2010, 11:24:30 am »

Quote from: JimH on November 13, 2006, 05:38:56 am

We think about OSX and Linux all the time, but it's a formidable development project and I don't think it would bring a lot of new sales. Maybe some day.

If you consider the audiophile group OSX makes up the biggest group, or biggest growing group. If you were at RMAF, you saw most rooms were using OSX.

I think you could really give something like iTunes and PM a real run for their money, especially if your software could support a plug a room correction plug in
like ARC. Most of the Mac users are tired of the restrictions that iTunes places on a user. Plus you are the only software I have seen that will record TV shows, which
makes it a complete solution.

One more vote for a Mac OSX version.....

StaticBool · « **Reply #38 on:** June 05, 2012, 07:20:13 am »

I have been using MC for more than 10 years now, but recently I switched to a Mac which is indeed a better choice for people who love music, videos, web design and network programming.
However, iTunes is not even close to a worthy adversary compared to Media Center.

MC is literally the only software I use that does not run on my new Mac.
Some people already mentioned: most users who like to organize, produce or work with music tend to use Apple products. As time passes, it might also be advisable to have a solution to stream music, photos and videos onto mobile devices such as iPhone and iPad.

As a matter of fact, I have transposed several of my C++-applications that I made for Windows to Objective C now. It was easier than I thought!

JimH · « **Reply #39 on:** February 06, 2013, 02:01:05 pm »

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