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noshali

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Ipod transfer...volume level
« on: March 20, 2007, 02:22:55 pm »

Hi,

Back again and now proud owner of Media Center 12.

Here is my problem:
I ripped Mp3s in JRiver using LAME and sent them to my ipod. The volume level was very low...same issue as before. I then ripped the same CD with WMP and imported it into MC and sent it to my ipod and guess what the level of the volume was excellent. I did not hav eto turn it up much to really hear it well compared to the rip with MC where even at full volume I wanted to listen to it louder.

I want MC to be my one and only media player and I hate using 2 apps to accomplish such a basic task.

regards,
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JimH

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Re: Ipod transfer...volume level
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2007, 02:29:10 pm »

That's hard to believe.  If you encode to MP3, any differences between encoders should be undetectable.  MC can use either Lame or Gogo encoders and can also use any external encoder.

Maybe try a little more testing?
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noshali

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Re: Ipod transfer...volume level
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2007, 02:39:57 pm »

JimH

Take my word for it...I have tried it many different CDs and it is the same. Is there a setting in MC that does something with level like how the volume of each songs is levelled in some other programs? Maybe that is what it is. I don't know hence the question to you.

It is very noticeable. I agree that is should not matter but it is this way.

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Re: Ipod transfer...volume level
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2007, 02:43:00 pm »

Things to play around with:

Open MC, go to tools > options > cd & dvd

In the ripping options, uncheck "Analyze audio during ripping" and then OK.
Now try ripping again and you will probably find that the volume is the same as with WMP.
After that test, re-enable the analyze option.

try turning sound check off on the ipod.

Turn off soundcheck on the ipod, and when it's connected, right click on it in MC and explore the volume adjustment options you will find there.

-marko.

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Re: Ipod transfer...volume level
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2007, 02:59:27 pm »

The 'issue' here is sound check on the iPod.

When you rip a CD using MC, it does an audio analysis at that time.
When you import tracks, there is no audio analysis info for that track until after you manually run the process.

With sound check turned on on the iPod, it will try to equalize the volume of all songs.  It does this by 'turning down' the volume on most tracks.  The imported tracks don't get the tags necessary to do this (until after you analyze them), so the iPod leaves them at their original volume.
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noshali

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Re: Ipod transfer...volume level
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2007, 04:31:44 pm »

Soundcheck on the ipod is off. Now I have to go home and turn the audio analysis off in MC and see what happens. Thanks for all the input.

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noshali

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Re: Ipod transfer...volume level
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2007, 12:05:26 pm »

It works!!!

Is there an advantage of having analyse audio while ripping? What does that do?

Thanks
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BartMan01

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Re: Ipod transfer...volume level
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2007, 12:11:18 pm »

Sound Check is just Apple's version of Replay Gain:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replay_Gain

The purpose is to either make all tracks or all albums the same perceived volume.  Basically it means when listening to tracks from different albums/sources you don't have to constantly turn the volume up and down to compensate for the really 'loud' or really 'quiet' tracks.
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