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benn600

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OT: Getting fired, etc.
« on: October 30, 2007, 10:56:40 am »

Correction, 12MB/sec.

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A lot of, ahem, younger people seem to disregard the difference between MB/s and Mb/s.

I'm a CS major for *goodness* sake!  I know the difference.  I'm trying to allow for other people's ignorance.  Others are claiming HD Tune is inaccurate when I was getting "accurate" results.

b= bit
B= byte

8 bits in a byte.  Therefore, divide megabits by 8 for megabytes.

Unless that "ahem" was not referring to me...okay (okay what?)

This is about my 5th time editing this post.  I think this thread is a bit off topic.  Everyone seems to be complaining or bragging about something unrelated in their lives while no one can provide a concrete solution for my specific problem.  What is the reason for life?
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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2007, 02:32:35 pm »

and are you still using 64bit server and if so, are you using 32bit drivers forcing the OS to drop back into compatibility mode?

And I fired three CS graduates in the past 6 months...........

Once someone starts waving credentials about, espec credentials that are not yet granted, credibility starts to drop........
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benn600

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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2007, 03:30:53 pm »

I've never been fired and have essentially worked for 3+ different organizations and several individuals.

The key is that I am thoroughly interested in my area of studies.  I just started a new web development internship and it's hysterical to hear some of the people who applied.  I have no idea how they could have ever gotten by with anyone without my experience level (3+ years).  I guess I strive to accomplish tasks which I think automatically somewhat protects me from getting fired.  Who cares if someone is a CS major or not--they need to know what the heck they're doing!
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OT: Getting fired, etc.
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2007, 04:08:16 pm »

Ben,
You might re-read newsposter's last post.  It's good advice.
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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2007, 05:13:33 pm »

I Have Been Working At My Company For 11+ Years

I Have The Only Pest Control License Within My Company In 100 Miles Or So.

So They Can't Open The Door Without Me.

I Also Happen To Be The Only Termite Manager In North Carolina For Our Company.

I Can Work At Almost Any Pest Control Company Just By Walking In The Door.

When Many People Come And Go (Turn Over), And Issues Other Workers Have ("My Kid Is Sick", "I Got A Runny Noise So I Can't Work Today", Etc...

I Somewhat Feel Safe When You Look At There Performance, And Issues.

I However Keep My Company Keys On A Quick Disconnect Key Chain.

It Is Always Best To Keep In Mind Everyone Is Expendable In A Business, Including The Boss.
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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2007, 09:29:55 pm »

Fresh Grad's are useless.
Remember one guy at my University, we were going into an exam in our final year - asked him what OS he ran at home. He said Windows so I asked which version - he said Microsoft Windows.
Thoroughly impressive for a CompSci grad!
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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2007, 10:09:54 pm »

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and are you still using 64bit server and if so, are you using 32bit drivers forcing the OS to drop back into compatibility mode?

And I fired three CS graduates in the past 6 months...........

Once someone starts waving credentials about, espec credentials that are not yet granted, credibility starts to drop........

Want to elaborate on firing?  I would like to know more about this whole firing thing so I can avoid it, lol.  From everyone's opinion to a college student: do you think I would be better off specializing in web development and getting really, really good at it or should I place more focus on other applications?  I mean I'm obviously learning Java/C.../other languages but I have to think to some extent a company would want a person for a specific skill set.  Now at smaller companies, like the one I'm at now, it helps that I have web & lots of general computer knowledge.

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Fresh Grad's are useless.
Remember one guy at my University, we were going into an exam in our final year - asked him what OS he ran at home. He said Windows so I asked which version - he said Microsoft Windows.
Thoroughly impressive for a CompSci grad!

Fortunately or unfortunately, I live and breath some aspect of computers constantly.  I feel as if I'm well rounded although my opinion is bias.  At least in web development I was hired instantly...I emailed my experience and there was never a "will call."  It was an "I don't care if I get this job because I have a perfectly good work study position."  A co-worker told me that such a mentality got a friend of his, who had retired, hired and he was being paid "ungodly amounts of money."  I'm still trying to determine if web development is a good solid future or not.  I mean as far as desktop application programming goes I am not up to snuf.  But for dynamic web sites (PHP, MySQL, Oracle, XHTML, CSS, Javascript, blah blah) I am at least standing on a firm foundation.  And this allowed me to master the basic concepts of programming years ago.
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« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2007, 05:41:11 am »

From my own personally experience:

I started in web dev - easy to learn, can do it at home, easy to move into - got quite a few jobs
Moved into desktop support as was looking for jobs in either web dev or support and just happened to land support
have now moved into consultancy which prefers you to be more rounded than specialised.


One big down side of web dev is that you have to know ALOT of technologies very well (css, javascript, html, xml, php/asp/jsp).  Most companies just expect you to be able to do the css and javascript automatically and jsp/asp/php is the only skill set they actually consider a skill and ask for and pay you for.
The other issue with it is the web is constantly changing and so if you ever take a break for a while you'll come back and what you know will to some extent be outdated.

Desktop programming can pay quite well but is very hardcore 'sit infront of a computer and code for the rest of your life' - that personally for me doesn't appeal that much.

Consultancy on the other hand involves alot more travelling, liasing with people, using a more broad range of computer skills and a MUCH bigger expense account with the company you work for. Trips abroad, dinners, cabs, hotels, etc all become part of the norm and something you expect and something you would never see as a programmer.

Programmers also tend to have a pretty narrow career path - head programmer is usually the best you can hope for (same with web programming for instance). Consultancy for instance can move you up the company ranks to management etc and some fatter pay cheque's.

Having said that, if you're a naturally very tallented programmer companies will be bidding against each other to get you and you can pull in a pretty fat cheque. I'm sure Matt here makes quite a decent pay cheque as I'd imagine he's a highly sought after person with his immense knowledge of multimedia related programming. Down side is just the being stuck infront of a computer part.
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