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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #150 on: April 08, 2008, 08:46:19 am »

Are there any known bugs that we can test for? I've been using this for a while now and it's been running perfectly. I've got it running on my work PC, my home PC, and my HTPC without a hitch.
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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #151 on: April 09, 2008, 08:29:08 am »

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Are there any known bugs that we can test for?
thank you for your offer.
At this time i only know the playlist sort bug, but i think i found a solution (i searched for playlist files with mjFiles = mediaCenterRef.search([playlistid]=12345)... and i think i have to use mjFiles = MJPlaylist.GetFiles() (thx to cncb & adamsp70 ) ).

@iPhone & iPod touch users
can the touch series execute flash ?
perhaps someone can check this site: http://www.jeroenwijering.com/?item=JW_FLV_Media_Player
and give some feedback if the flashplayer can run on your iPod/IPhone.

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you are added.
Please give some feedback if you have problems.

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What a pitty, it would be great to adapt your cool soft in this direction

it's possible, but at this time my focus is on other features (like 'refresh smartlists', more LastFM features (similar songs/artists) and perhaps mp3-streaming).

Cheers,
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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #153 on: April 09, 2008, 08:52:38 am »

Just a note that all has been running smoothly with xpTunes here
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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #154 on: April 09, 2008, 05:18:15 pm »

at this time my focus is on other features (like 'refresh smartlists', more LastFM features (similar songs/artists) and perhaps mp3-streaming).

That's great...I am using Oddcast and Shoutcast to stream from my server.  I added a link on playing.html to pull up the stream, but since they're not on the same port I had to hardcode the full URL of my Shoucast server into playing.html (you can't use a regular old relative URL to reference a different port, even if it's on the same physical machine).  So it's not easily portable.  Oddcast can pull metadata from a web page, so I use xpTunes to also generate a stripped down webpage for Oddcast to read.  But Oddcast doesn't get updated when the page contents change, I set it up to poll that page every 30 seconds.  So I've got a working streaming solution but it's kind of clunky--integrating this into xpTunes would get rid of the clunkiness.   8)

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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #155 on: April 10, 2008, 02:49:33 am »

@iPhone & iPod touch users
can the touch series execute flash ?
Nope, no flash for us ATM
@surfikus
more LastFM features (similar songs/artists)
feel free to steal code from my trackinfo template
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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #156 on: April 10, 2008, 08:35:13 am »

Out of curiousity, would you consider doing xpTunes as a plugin, rather than a stand alone exe?
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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #157 on: April 10, 2008, 02:41:41 pm »

hi all,

@Shasta Mcnasty
i'm not sure if we talk about the same way of streaming (i hope that i don't disappoint you)...
i plan that if you click on a song the song is streamed to a flash player in your browser

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feel free to steal code from my trackinfo template
thanks. i did it today... what lastFM infos you need ? i understand that similar songs and similar artist are interesting for you (both with flags if the song/artist is present in the library)... something else ?

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Out of curiousity, would you consider doing xpTunes as a plugin, rather than a stand alone exe?
please allow me one question... why ?
you are not the first, who asked this question.
But i see no efforts to release xpTunes as a plugin, perhaps i overlook somethink.
If i release xpTunes as a plugin nothing will changed (i think), only you will not see xpTunes in the taskbar.

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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #158 on: April 10, 2008, 03:19:20 pm »

Similar artist/songs will be a wonderfull start. (BTW the flag could be a play/enqueue button)
Other albums from the same artist could be great to have a quick look at the missing album that one must quickly buy/download :)

I had a look at your sy,tax for queries. Could you show me an example of imbricated queries?
i.e. list albums from the now playing artist and then for each album, list tracks.

Keep up the good work :)
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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #159 on: April 10, 2008, 03:29:45 pm »

@confishy please allow me one question... why ?
you are not the first, who asked this question.
But i see no efforts to release xpTunes as a plugin, perhaps i overlook somethink.
If i release xpTunes as a plugin nothing will changed (i think), only you will not see xpTunes in the taskbar.

I think one benefit (could also be a drawback depending on how you look at it) is that if it's a plugin, you know that if MC is running, so is xpTunes. Currently you have to make sure both are running in order to use it.

Currently if only xpTunes is running, it will start MC if it receives a command, but for me at least (and maybe this is a bug?) it just sort of hangs.

Also, I wonder if the memory footprint would be a little smaller if it was a just a dll loaded into MC rather than a standalone exe?
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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #160 on: April 10, 2008, 04:40:25 pm »

Hi Markus,
can you please add me to the beta list?
thanks!
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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #161 on: April 10, 2008, 10:50:37 pm »

I think one benefit (could also be a drawback depending on how you look at it) is that if it's a plugin, you know that if MC is running, so is xpTunes. Currently you have to make sure both are running in order to use it.
Precisely. Also, it would be just a little 'nicer' in terms of modifying settings etc, as it then conforms more to the standard paradigm of centralised management. (i.e. all settings for MC and it's addons are IN MC).

Additionally, if you plan on having a large user uptake -and it's a GREAT 'plugin', and so it should have a large uptake- it makes it easier to distribute via the built in .mjp system.

Please note that I don't mean to criticize, just venturing a suggestion to improve the experience for the casual user. Is there any reason you'd prefer it not to be a plugin? (if there is it could be a good way to squash this discussion ;)

Lastly, I was on the beta team, but dropped off after you had probs with your list. Any chance I could join back in please?

Cheers,
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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #162 on: April 11, 2008, 09:21:15 am »

@Shasta Mcnasty
i'm not sure if we talk about the same way of streaming (i hope that i don't disappoint you)...
i plan that if you click on a song the song is streamed to a flash player in your browser

Markus,

Streaming to a flash player in the browser would be cool.  That's not what my arrangement does. 

I stream to a separate media player.  I've already got the streaming server running on my server PC (I stream to my Roku Soundbridge wireless music player), so I just added a link on playing.html to also stream to a software music player (for example, MC) on any remote PC.  I use that link mostly at work (sure, I could just use the MC Library Server, but it takes a long time to make the connection--it's quick to just pull up MC in Web Media mode though). 

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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #163 on: April 11, 2008, 02:05:03 pm »

hi,

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so I just added a link on playing.html to also stream to a software music player (for example, MC) on any remote PC
your link (playing.html) only points to your Shoutcast server (like "http://192.168.0.100:8000"), or did i misunderstand ?

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I had a look at your sy,tax for queries. Could you show me an example of imbricated queries?
i.e. list albums from the now playing artist and then for each album, list tracks.
yes, sure.
you mean the vb code or the code in the html-page?
if you mean the html queries you should take a look to xpTunes.js too (e.g. function AlbById).

Cheers,
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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #164 on: April 11, 2008, 02:36:01 pm »

@confishy
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Please note that I don't mean to criticize, just venturing a suggestion to improve the experience for the casual user.

be sure, I don't fell criticized ;-) all your points are understandable

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Is there any reason you'd prefer it not to be a plugin?
yes, but only some small points.
- perhaps i will xpTunes extend to other software like tvc4 or mediaPortal (but i think that i do not have enough time)
- much easier to debug
- as a plugin xpTunes blocks MC from time to time (i don't know why...perhaps a bug in xpTunes or in the plugin-Interface)
- as a standalone app the performance is better (don't know why)

perhaps a wrapper plugin is a choise... the wrapper starts xpTunes in the background and saves settings in a shared config-file.

Markus

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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #165 on: April 11, 2008, 07:53:42 pm »

Markus,
Nice job on this!
Have a problem, though..
Installed and worked fine on my desktop PC.
However, on my headless server the xpTunes applet window is invisible when I connect to the server with Tight VNC. The applet runs but nothing is on the screen... This is the first time I encountered something like this with VNC. If I hook up a real monitor to the server - the xpTunes is visible - i.e. it works but for some reason VNC doesn't handle it's window correctly..
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Any idea why and how to workaround?

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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #166 on: April 11, 2008, 09:11:12 pm »

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perhaps a wrapper plugin is a choise... the wrapper starts xpTunes in the background and saves settings in a shared config-file.
If you're planning on extending support to other programs (and even given the issues you've noted), then the wrapper does sound like a good solution to me :)

And thanks for the PM.
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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #167 on: April 12, 2008, 03:12:10 am »

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it works but for some reason VNC doesn't handle it's window correctly..
Any idea why and how to workaround?

hi max,

sorry, i have no idea.  xpTunes uses 'simple' .net forms, so i don't know if this problem is a tightvnc problem or a .net problem.
I use ultraVNC and everything is ok.

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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #168 on: April 15, 2008, 06:20:31 pm »

Thanks! I'll give ultra VNC a try!

hi max,

sorry, i have no idea.  xpTunes uses 'simple' .net forms, so i don't know if this problem is a tightvnc problem or a .net problem.
I use ultraVNC and everything is ok.
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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #169 on: April 19, 2008, 01:10:25 pm »

@Shasta
did you ever try icecast2 with your Roku Soundbridge ?
icecast2 is nearly the same like shoutcast but open source... perhaps i will extend xpTunes to use icecast as streaming server...

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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #170 on: April 20, 2008, 04:44:18 am »

I'm using xpTunes and Icecast2 (and Oddcast) to stream around the house.

All works a treat - but is quite a lot of software to install and configure for one task!
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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #171 on: April 20, 2008, 07:33:20 am »

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... but is quite a lot of software to install and configure for one task!

that's right. I hope that i can expand xpTunes with some features from oddcast, but i think it make sense to use a specialized streamingserver.
btw. do you hear windows-sounds (like clicking) when you stream something ?

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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #172 on: April 20, 2008, 12:13:27 pm »

Your javascript is so obscure to me!
Here is what I did:
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<div class="mainfilearea">
<!--[JRMEDIACENTER["getFiles?source=library&sourcekey=audio&searchtyp=fileid&searchobj=artist&value=XPTUNES_CURRENTFILE_GETKEY&template=custom&sort=[album]&htmlcode="
<div class="album_title tr_[track #]">
   <p>[album]</p>
</div>
<div class= "title" onclick="pl('[GetKey]');">
   <p>[track #]. [name] ([duration])</p>
</div>
""]]-->
</div>

plus this css code to hide album titles except for the first track
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.album_title {
display: none;
}

.tr_1 {
display: block;
font-size : 18px;
}

.title {
color : #aaa;
font-size : 12px;
}

.title:hover {
color : #fff;
cursor: hand;
}

I think I took the worst way to tweak your display :)
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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #173 on: April 20, 2008, 06:26:57 pm »

hi neFast,

i think you found the only way to do this (at this time).

the correct html should be something like this:

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<!--[JRMEDIACENTER["getFiles?source=library&sourcekey=audio&searchtyp=fileid&searchobj=artist&value=XPTUNES_CURRENTFILE_GETKEY&template=custom&sort=[album],[track #]&htmlcode="
[collapse_start_on]
<div>
<p class=colAlbum>[album]</p>
[collapse_start_off]
<div class= "title" onclick="pl('[GetKey]');">
   <p>[track #]. [name] ([GetFormattedDuration])</p>
</div>
[collapse_end_on]
</div>
[collapse_end_off]
""]]-->

... but this is only implemented for playlists at this time (see playlists.html)... i will add this as soon as possible for files.

Cheers,
Markus

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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #174 on: April 21, 2008, 02:56:53 am »

Cool!
And what are the tags to display the release date of each album?

I was also trying to figure out how I could mix last.fm top album and library results but I think it's something that has to be done at a higher level that the javascript code. You wrote your project in VB, did ya? Do you think you could open part of it and allow me (and others) to build extra functions? (considering we won't interfere with your code)
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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #175 on: April 21, 2008, 03:45:38 am »

btw. do you hear windows-sounds (like clicking) when you stream something ?

Hard to tell on the server because i remote control into it, so don't hear its sounds. But definitely don't hear any clicks through the clients, no.
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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #176 on: April 21, 2008, 10:57:18 am »

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And what are the tags to display the release date of each album?
it depends... in what field the release date is stored ?. perhaps [year] ?
You can use nearly all properties from:
http://wiki.jrmediacenter.com/index.php/MJFileAutomation

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I was also trying to figure out how I could mix last.fm top album and library results but I think it's something that has to be done at a higher level that the javascript code.
Please don't waste time... this is already done ;-)

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You wrote your project in VB, did ya?
Yes vb.net.

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Do you think you could open part of it and allow me (and others) to build extra functions? (considering we won't interfere with your code)
i have to think about it... i only can promise that i will add code if it makes sense.

Cheers,
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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #177 on: April 21, 2008, 01:44:25 pm »

Please don't waste time... this is already done ;-)
C'mon! You *must* release an update. :P
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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #178 on: April 21, 2008, 02:27:16 pm »

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C'mon! You *must* release an update. :P

;-)
http://freenet-homepage.de/Messiahs/files/xptunes/xpTunesDev.zip
... but it's buggy and only a development version.

For a normal use you better wait for a regular version...

Cheers,
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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #179 on: April 22, 2008, 06:10:57 pm »

Pshaw!  I've been waiting with bated breath for you to release the program to the public.  I thought the above link would provide this, but it appears to be only a subset of the functionality (looks nice, though!).

I'd don't think I'd add anything to the beta testing already ongoing, but I'm a custom installer and love to be able to demonstrate different ways to distribute music to my clients.  I have a client coming over Thursday and I thought he might be interested in this.

Thanks very much for all your hard work on this, I'm sure it will be very much appreciated by many people.

Regards...
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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #180 on: April 23, 2008, 04:34:22 am »

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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #181 on: April 23, 2008, 03:22:31 pm »

http://freenet-homepage.de/Messiahs/files/xptunes/xpTunesDev.zip
Oh God! It rocks. Wunderbar!
It's just a matter of skinning now.

PS: I would suggest you to pre-load similar song/similar artist in background.
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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #182 on: April 23, 2008, 04:45:40 pm »

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Oh god! It rock. Wunderbar!
"Wunderbar!"  i don't find this in google translation  ;D
you gave me the permission to use your trackinfo template.. so i can do something for you.

Cheers,
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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #183 on: April 24, 2008, 08:06:54 pm »

Markus,

Any more room for a beta tester?  I've got a Nokia N800 Internet tablet that I'd like to test this on.

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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #184 on: April 25, 2008, 01:41:18 am »

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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/05/2008
« Reply #185 on: April 27, 2008, 11:18:16 am »

OK, here is my skin for the iPhone/iTouch; I've included some photos to wet people's appetites who can't try it yet.

http://sgimages.co.uk/itouch-for-xptunes/

Hey Stephen, your skin works great on my iPod Touch. I was wondering if it would be possible to tweak it so that it opens below the safari address bar (like iPhone versions of websites such as google or facebook)?
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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #186 on: April 28, 2008, 05:34:11 am »

This is a great piece of s/w. Well done. On the itouch the only thing that isn't quite right is the search results screen being slightly too big. It does not display the right hand icons correctly.

Keep up the great work.

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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #187 on: April 28, 2008, 02:58:45 pm »

This is a great piece of s/w. Well done. On the itouch the only thing that isn't quite right is the search results screen being slightly too big. It does not display the right hand icons correctly.


If you notice, what is happening is the page is zoomed in to the size of the search text box when Safari brings up the keyboard, but it doesn't zoom it back out again when the search is activated. I am unsure, other than making the test boxes the full width of the page (which is a bit ugly) what you can do about that.

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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/05/2008
« Reply #188 on: April 28, 2008, 03:58:40 pm »

Hey Stephen, your skin works great on my iPod Touch. I was wondering if it would be possible to tweak it so that it opens below the safari address bar (like iPhone versions of websites such as google or facebook)?

I assume you mean the hiding of the address bar on Facebook? This is apparently done by using some Javascript to scroll the page after a timeout to let the whole page load; I have played about with various combinations of commands applied to different objects but have had no success. A quick google shows that there is a certain amount of unpredictability about this method.

Anyone out there who knows what they are doing with this stuff is welcome to teach us how it should be done  ;D
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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/05/2008
« Reply #189 on: April 29, 2008, 08:48:47 am »

I assume you mean the hiding of the address bar on Facebook? This is apparently done by using some Javascript to scroll the page after a timeout to let the whole page load; I have played about with various combinations of commands applied to different objects but have had no success. A quick google shows that there is a certain amount of unpredictability about this method.

Anyone out there who knows what they are doing with this stuff is welcome to teach us how it should be done  ;D

that's exactly what I meant. I didn't suspect it could be that complicated... Doesn't Apple give some guidelines to design websites that play nice on the iPhone. It seems to me that's the kind of thing they would want to get out there to promote usage of that particular platform.
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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #190 on: April 30, 2008, 05:01:01 pm »

Yep.. Ultra VNC works with xpTunes just fine! I'll switch to Ultra from Tough then..
Thanks!

Thanks! I'll give ultra VNC a try!

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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #191 on: April 30, 2008, 08:45:56 pm »

Anyone uses xpTunes with a Pocket PC?
I tried it on Axim X51 (WM5) and all the skins look pretty bad - everything is out of alignment... All the button aligned in columns rather than in rows.
Is there a skin optimized for 480x640 PPC screen?
Thanks!
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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #192 on: May 01, 2008, 02:17:12 am »

Did you try the great iTouch skin ? I think this is the best skin for a Pocket PC.
http://sgimages.co.uk/itouch-for-xptunes/

If it doesn't fit, then you can tweak the css file.

Cheers
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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #193 on: May 01, 2008, 09:52:48 am »

Yes, it's a great skin! but it looks messed up on my Axim PPC (looks fine on PC). I am not a css expert but I try...
Thanks!
--max

Did you try the great iTouch skin ? I think this is the best skin for a Pocket PC.
http://sgimages.co.uk/itouch-for-xptunes/

If it doesn't fit, then you can tweak the css file.

Cheers
Markus
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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #194 on: May 01, 2008, 01:41:00 pm »

Hello,

I would love to be a beta tester as well.  I have a Dell axim and a treo I can test out.

One question, does xpTunes allow specifying which zone to playback music on? 

Thanks.
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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #195 on: May 01, 2008, 02:06:07 pm »

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One question, does xpTunes allow specifying which zone to playback music on? 

sry, no zones


... but if anybody is right now active and can test shoutcast:
http://yp.shoutcast.com/directory/index.phtml?sgenre=&maxbitrate=999&numresult=25&s=xpTunes

pls give some feedback if you can hear something ;-) (but the station is only available in the next 10 min)

thx,
Markus

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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #196 on: May 01, 2008, 02:13:31 pm »

sry, no zones


... but if anybody is right now active and can test shoutcast:
http://yp.shoutcast.com/directory/index.phtml?sgenre=&maxbitrate=999&numresult=25&s=xpTunes

pls give some feedback if you can hear something ;-) (but the station is only available in the next 10 min)

thx,
Markus

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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #197 on: May 01, 2008, 02:15:09 pm »

thx for testing ;-)

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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #198 on: May 01, 2008, 02:16:35 pm »

even with no zones I would love to be a beta tester.   ;D
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Re: xpTunes - enhanced remote server (beta) Updated: 03/27/2008
« Reply #199 on: May 01, 2008, 02:17:40 pm »

even with no zones I would love to be a beta tester.   ;D

you're welcome ;-)
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