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[Messiahs]

ok... i think IE6 has problems with png-files (not sure) (when John is sure... i'm sure too ;-) )

You can use firefox portable (no installation)
http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable

hope this helps
Markus

[AoXoMoXoA]

I updated from IE6 to IE7 and now the arrows ar properly displayed.

[Messiahs]

I updated from IE6 to IE7 and now the arrows ar properly displayed.

this solution is not so bad ;-)

[lOth]

I PMed adamsp70 to ask for the no-frame version for the iPod Touch but had no success. Does anyone else have it?

[neFAST]

I PMed adamsp70 to ask for the no-frame version for the iPod Touch but had no success. Does anyone else have it?

I''d like it too !

[gallimore]

I don't know if I am completely imaging it, but the actual speed of page updates seems a lot slower than earlier versions - and I don't think it is my wireless network.

i think the tumbnails could be the reason....

Markus, I think this was down to my wireless network after all. I recently started using a remote library server so everything is going over the wireless twice to get to the iPod, the thumbnails have just added to this. If I connect directly to the library server machine it is fine.

I've almost finished the iTouch skin port to 0.09; its actually gone a lot easier than I expected and it looks pretty good. Thanks for putting in the page controls that I asked for, it makes things much more usable.

I will put something up for people to try by the weekend with any luck.

-stephen

[Messiahs]

If I connect directly to the library server machine it is fine.

i'm glad to hear that.

...and it looks pretty good.

i can't believe, that it looks better than the versions before ;-)

Thanks for putting in the page controls that I asked for, it makes things much more usable.

No problem 

I will put something up for people to try by the weekend with any luck.

i think that you will have a big fanbase !!! ( i think i should buy a IPod touch ;-) )

Cheers,
Markus

[AlexV]

Is xpTunes a plugin ? or a modification of the Net Remote files ?

In other words, can I modify Net Remote directly ? I know some HTML...

[Messiahs]

Hi AlexV,

xpTunes is a small standalone exe, but works like a plugin.
You don't need NetRemote or something else... (ah ok, you need the .net-framework and MediaCenter 12 or Jukebox).
It's possible to add or customize the skins (pure html & javascript).
In simple words xpTunes is a webserver that handles http requests to control MC.

Personally i think xpTunes is much better than NetRemote ;-)

Cheers,
Markus

[JimH]

Markus,
Do you plan to make it more public?  I'd like to try it.

Thanks,

Jim

[gallimore]

OK, here is my skin for the iPhone/iTouch; I've included some photos to wet people's appetites who can't try it yet.

http://sgimages.co.uk/itouch-for-xptunes/

As well as the iPod I've tested on Firefox (good), IE7 (there are a couple of issues, use Firefox its just better) and the Safari beta on windows (total failure); I have not tried Opera. Markus, xptunes just doesn't work at all on real Safari even with the BW skin, it appears to be totally ignoring the CSS; weird given that mobile Safari has absolutely no problems. I assume therefore that xptunes won't work with Safari on a Mac either.


-stephen

[gallimore]

Markus,
Do you plan to make it more public?  I'd like to try it.

Thanks,

Jim

Markus,
I have had a server running on my development machine for over a week now with no problems; no sign of the random failures to serve pages I was seeing in (much) earlier versions.  Might be time to let it out into the wild...

-stephen

[Messiahs]

Do you plan to make it more public?  I'd like to try it.

Hi Jim,

if i found time to solve the kown bugs (slider, rating), i will release a public RC1 version, but i also expand the beta group (it's harder than i thought, because i can only send 3 pm's per hour ;-)).

cheers,
Markus

[Messiahs]

hi Stephen,

looks really great !!! and it is much fun to play with.

I only found a small bug in the search page (thx firefox) "activate_search is not defined". i will take a look too (perhaps a javascript problem).

.... and the Safari beta on windows (total failure);
... xptunes just doesn't work at all on real Safari even with the BW skin, it appears to be totally ignoring the CSS

i know, the beta versions are really crap ;-) take a look at the newest version (3.1).

Thanks for sharing iTouch !

Cheers,
Markus

[gallimore]

looks really great !!! and it is much fun to play with.

I only found a small bug in the search page (thx firefox) "activate_search is not defined". i will take a look too (perhaps a javascript problem).
...
i know, the beta versions are really crap ;-) take a look at the newest version (3.1).

Thanks Markus,

Just tried the search page on Firefox 2.0.0.12 and it just works for me, I had only previously tested it on the iPod. You aren't using the 3 beta are you? I do have that on another machine and will test tomorrow.

I only installed Safari 3.0.4 a week or so ago to test something else, I pulled it up today just out of curiosity and it didn't tell me there was an update. Downloading 3.1 now, thanks for letting me know.

I'm glad you liked the changes.

Regards,
-stephen

[gallimore]

Yep, Safari 3.1 works perfectly. Right thats me done for the evening 

[gallimore]

Yep, Safari 3.1 works perfectly. Right thats me done for the evening 

....almost, I know why search is bust for you, it is still using xptunes_ppc.js, which is still in my development tree - but I removed it from the release tree just before I zipped it up. I will fix that tomorrow. In the mean time just copy it from one of the other skins.

-stephen

[JimH]

Hi Jim,

if i found time to solve the kown bugs (slider, rating), i will release a public RC1 version, but i also expand the beta group (it's harder than i thought, because i can only send 3 pm's per hour ;-)).

cheers,
Markus

It's beautiful!  Thanks, everyone who's worked on it.

[gibbc]

this works great on my pc i did try and run it on my palm and it kindas look funny lol thank you to all that worked on it

[gallimore]

OK, here is my skin for the iPhone/iTouch; I've included some photos to wet people's appetites who can't try it yet.

http://sgimages.co.uk/itouch-for-xptunes/

A new version has been uploaded; this fixes the search problem found by Markus, I just copied the B&W skin's page for now. It also improves the look in desktop browsers when scrolling the center frame. Finally I changed the page numbering representation to avoid it spilling over into the list boxes when there were a large number of pages, but I'm not too keen on the look of it. Anyone got a better suggestion?

-stephen

[rossp]

Markus,

Can I be added to the beta test group please. I have an iTouch to play with.

Thanks...Ross

[Messiahs]

Can I be added to the beta test group please. I have an iTouch to play with.

Thanks...Ross

done & have fun,
Markus

[damian_pentney]

Please can I play beta test too.

Have PPC, Palm, iPhone, Touch Screen PC-client (and my wife would add.....no spare time....but I would beg to differ) to test on

Currently running NetRemote on two of the above, and would love to test direct control of MC through webserver and gain ability to test Palm & iPhone.

thanks

DP

[Messiahs]

Please can I play beta test too.

you are added...  i'll release a new version in the next couple of days today.

[Messiahs]

new version (xpTunes V0.10) is up.

changelog: added ITouch (thx to gallimore), login feature (xpTunes settings) and PCRemote.. slider fix

Cheers,
Markus

[gibbc]

xptunes working well thank you

[adamsp70]

Love the way this is all coming together....

With playlists - if i browse to them via xpTunes, all my tracks are there - but not in the order i intended. Any way of getting them in the right order?

Cheers.....
   Paul

[adamsp70]

yep, smarlists don't update if you call them via SDK... not really nice.

Edit:
Checked it with a udp-client... the same
Perhaps JR can add a feature to update smartlists via SDK.

Sorry to bring this old chestnut up again - but i think the answer may be in this thread?

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=45209.0

If xpTunes were to execute this: "MC12.exe /MCC 22007" before asking for a playlist, then it should refresh smartlists ok. I've been doing it manually from the command prompt and it works a treat, but needs to be integrated with xpTunes.

What do you think?

[Shasta Mcnasty]

Love the way this is all coming together....

With playlists - if i browse to them via xpTunes, all my tracks are there - but not in the order i intended. Any way of getting them in the right order?

Cheers.....
   Paul

You can edit the html (I think files.html but don't hold me to that) to sort however you would like.  I sort by [Album], [track #] generally. 

Then when you add the files to your playingnow, they are in the order they appeared on the screen.

I don't think you can dynamically change the sort order. 

[adamsp70]

You can edit the html (I think files.html but don't hold me to that) to sort however you would like.  I sort by [Album], [track #] generally. 

Then when you add the files to your playingnow, they are in the order they appeared on the screen.

I don't think you can dynamically change the sort order. 

Thanks, but I don't want to change the order - i want it exactly as MC has it. For instance i have a "random album" smartlist which has everything in track order.

When xpTunes shows it, the order is not track-based (i can't work out what it is).

[AoXoMoXoA]

Is there an easy way to modify the browsing for "Artist" to show "Album Artist" instead?

[Messiahs]

With playlists - if i browse to them via xpTunes, all my tracks are there - but not in the order i intended. Any way of getting them in the right order?

hi paul,

i'm sorry about it, but this is a limitation of the sdk.
you only can get the files (via sdk) in a playlist and not the sort-order.

If xpTunes were to execute this: "MC12.exe /MCC 22007"

thanks, i will take a look.

cheers,
Markus

[Messiahs]

Is there an easy way to modify the browsing for "Artist" to show "Album Artist" instead?

Did I understand correct, that if you click on Artist (in the Navigation) you want to show the page grouped by the Artist and his Albums ?

[lepa]

Hi Markus,
Working very nice here. One day I when I have time I'll try to learn some javascript/html
and make interface bit like allmusic for music and a template for movies which shows reviews,
plots and so on. Would be great for my htpc.

I also found one bug:
I get a xpTunes crash if I use my servers name instead of IP address.
192.192.192.192 -> ok
myserver.com -> crash

[Messiahs]

hi lepa,

thanks, i will fix this.

Cheers,
Markus

[AoXoMoXoA]

Did I understand correct, that if you click on Artist (in the Navigation) you want to show the page grouped by the Artist and his Albums ?

Not understood correctly.

I group all my music by the tag field Album Artist
so for example Al DiMeola, Al DiMeola World Sinfonia, and Al DiMeola Project are all under the Album Artist "Al DiMeola" with the specific grop named in the Artist tag
(my files are named Artist\album\Artist - Album - Track # - Name)

So, I wish to change the browsing from Artist to Album Artist

[Messiahs]

ok i see...
there's no "easy way"... but you can try to change all '[artist]' fields in '[album artist]' in the artist.html and in the navigation area.

Markus

[AoXoMoXoA]

ok i see...
there's no "easy way"... but you can try to change all '[artist]' fields in '[album artist]' in the artist.html and in the navigation area.

Markus

OK, thanks. It's worth a try.

[Messiahs]

please let me know if you have some problems.

Markus

[wadewood]

Looks like a nice application.  I would like to try this; any estimate on when rc will be released?

Thanks - Wade

[adamsp70]

Shasta - did you see my question for you on this thread:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=45164.msg314301#msg314301

Was trying to find out what HTML your "mini" page produced that makes metadata work for streaming.

Be grateful to learn, thanks....
   Paul

[surfikus]

Hi,

it is planed to get control for different zones or to switch within the visu from one zone to the other?

Surfikus

[Shasta Mcnasty]

Shasta - did you see my question for you on this thread:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=45164.msg314301#msg314301

Was trying to find out what HTML your "mini" page produced that makes metadata work for streaming.

Be grateful to learn, thanks....
   Paul

Didn't see it there 'til you pointed it out, but check over there for my reply. 

[adamsp70]

Didn't see it there 'til you pointed it out, but check over there for my reply. 

Thanks!!!

[adamsp70]

hi paul,

i'm sorry about it, but this is a limitation of the sdk.
you only can get the files (via sdk) in a playlist and not the sort-order.

Assume you are doing a GetFiles call to get a MJFilesAutomation list? Then can't you call Sort on that to get it into the order that was originally intended?

http://wiki.jrmediacenter.com/index.php/MJFilesAutomation

[Messiahs]

Assume you are doing a GetFiles call to get a MJFilesAutomation list? Then can't you call Sort on that to get it into the order that was originally intended?

http://wiki.jrmediacenter.com/index.php/MJFilesAutomation

hi Paul,

thank you for this hint.
the description "sorts the list of files using user selected sorting scheme" sounds good, but i think JR means the default sorting.
The sort-statement only sorts the MJFiles by Artistname  ?.

But perhaps i will find another way... ( i have to rewrite the playlist code before RC1).

Markus

[Messiahs]

it is planed to get control for different zones or to switch within the visu from one zone to the other?

not at this time... because i can't test it (i only use one zone).

Markus

[cncb]

thank you for this hint.
the description "sorts the list of files using user selected sorting scheme" sounds good, but i think JR means the default sorting.
The sort-statement only sorts the MJFiles by Artistname  ?.

This is what I have found recently using the SDK with sorting:

1) A simple GetFiles() on a playlist seems to get the files in the correct playlist order.
2) Sort() after GetFiles() seems to sort the files of a view scheme as you see them in the MC UI itself (as defined in the sorting for the current view).
3) You can use Sort2() after GetFiles() to sort them any way you want.  You can pass in "[Seq]" to Sort2() to manually sort files in the correct playlist order.

[surfikus]

not at this time... because i can't test it (i only use one zone).

Markus

What a pitty, it would be great to adapt your cool soft in this direction (if it's not to much work?!). I would test it because I use MC with 5 different zones and to control them via an iPhone/PC is the optimum I try to reach.

Surfikus

[starmanj]

Hi Messiahs,
Could I please be added to the beta team.  I have a whole-house system run by a single media server.  I can test using PPC with WM2005, Itouch, 7 networked computers with Firefox and IE6 and 7, and Ubuntu/Firefox.  And I need this BAD.
Thanks!
Starmanj