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msnider

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Tivo Series 3 HD and MC 12 - Can't Get Server To Work
« on: February 16, 2008, 11:05:20 am »

I recently purchased the Tivo Series 3 HD and I'm trying to get the Tivo to find Media Center.  I have the Tivo hooked up to my wireless network and everything works fine in that respect.  It can find my music and pics from my home network, but I had a Tivo Series 2 a while ago and I used it with Media Center and I loved it.  I want it back.  I have the Tivo Desktop installed and running, I have the Media Center server running, but no matter what I do, I can't get Tivo to find my music on Media Center.  I have un-installed and re-installed Media Center and Tivo Desktop.  I'm running Media Center 12.0.404 (registered) with Windows Vista and when I start the Media Center server this is what shows up:

02/16/08 09:01:22 - Starting...
02/16/08 09:01:22 - Checking TiVo Beacon installation
02/16/08 09:01:22 - Installing new API.
02/16/08 09:01:22 - Unable to copy new API.
02/16/08 09:01:22 - Please stop all programs (like TiVo Desktop) that might be using it.

If the problem persists, remove the TiVo Desktop application, reboot the system, and try again. You can reinstall the TiVo Desktop later.
02/16/08 09:01:22 - Failed to start sharing

I've stopped Tivo Desktop but I still can't get Tivo to find my Media Center.  I realize this may be posted somewhere else, but I couldn't find anything on Tivo Series 3 issues with Media Center Server.  Anyone have any suggestions or fixes for me?  Thanks a lot.
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Re: Tivo Series 3 HD and MC 12 - Can't Get Server To Work
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2008, 12:19:37 pm »

I'll take a look further on monday, but in the meantime: make sure you run with administrator privileges. Installing the beacon may require them.

Also, post your system info here.

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Re: Tivo Series 3 HD and MC 12 - Can't Get Server To Work
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2008, 12:44:43 pm »

You mean run my computer with administrative priveleges, right?  It is.

System Info:
Windows Vista Home Premium
Gateway MT3705
Processor: Genuine Intel (R) CPU T2250 @ 1.73Ghz 1.73Ghz
Memory (RAM): 958 MB
System Type: 32-bit Operating System

Thanks for your help.
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Re: Tivo Series 3 HD and MC 12 - Can't Get Server To Work
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2008, 10:14:05 am »

It looks like the beacon is not installed at all, though I don't know why the TiVo Server cannot install a new one.

First, let's try this: install the TiVo Desktop (re-install if necessary), and make sure the beacon is running.
In the control panel Administrative Tools, click on services and look for the TiVo Beacon. If it is there, right click and choose properties, and post the path name here.

And, if it is there, then start MC and copy-and-paste the TiVo status page here.

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Re: Tivo Series 3 HD and MC 12 - Can't Get Server To Work
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2008, 11:47:00 am »

Tivo desktop was already installed (I did not re-install) and the Tivo beacon is running and installed - path name:
"C:\Program Files\Common Files\TiVo Shared\Beacon\TiVoBeacon.exe" /service

Media Center Tivo status page when I DON'T start the Media Server:

02/18/08 09:43:04 - Starting...
02/18/08 09:43:04 - Checking TiVo Beacon installation
02/18/08 09:43:04 - Installing new API.
02/18/08 09:43:04 - Unable to copy new API.
02/18/08 09:43:04 - Please stop all programs (like TiVo Desktop) that might be using it. If the problem persists, remove the TiVo Desktop application, reboot the system, and try again. You can reinstall the TiVo Desktop later.
02/18/08 09:43:04 - Failed to start sharing

Media Center Tivo status page when I start the Media server:

02/18/08 09:45:08 - Starting...
02/18/08 09:45:08 - Checking TiVo Beacon installation
02/18/08 09:45:08 - Installing new API.
02/18/08 09:45:08 - Unable to copy new API.
02/18/08 09:45:08 - Please stop all programs (like TiVo Desktop) that might be using it. If the problem persists, remove the TiVo Desktop application, reboot the system, and try again. You can reinstall the TiVo Desktop later.
02/18/08 09:45:08 - Failed to start sharing
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Re: Tivo Series 3 HD and MC 12 - Can't Get Server To Work
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2008, 07:40:40 pm »

Figured it out!  Don't ask me how (something to do with the firewall and a port), but I was just messing around with some things and it's all good.  Songs, genres, titles, pics....all show up on my Series 3 from Media Center 12.  Cool.
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Re: Tivo Series 3 HD and MC 12 - Can't Get Server To Work
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2008, 07:54:02 pm »

May have spoke too soon.  Tivo recognizes my music, but now it's not playing the music.  Just silence.  My TV has a screenshot of the song, the artist, and the album - but no music.  Here's what the Media Center server says:

02/18/08 17:49:09 - Starting...
02/18/08 17:49:09 - Checking TiVo Beacon installation
02/18/08 17:49:09 - Connecting to Beacon.
02/18/08 17:49:10 - Running on Port 8079
02/18/08 17:49:57 - Bad Request: Unknown Command /TiVoConnect??Command=FlushServer
02/18/08 17:50:26 - Bad Request: Unknown Command /TiVoConnect??Command=FlushServer
02/18/08 17:51:01 - Browsing File: C:\Users\Matthew\Music\And you Will Know Us By the Trail of Dead- So Divided-06- So Divided.mp3
02/18/08 17:51:03 - Browsing File: C:\Users\Matthew\Music\And you Will Know Us By the Trail of Dead- So Divided-06- So Divided.mp3

Help??!!
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Re: Tivo Series 3 HD and MC 12 - Can't Get Server To Work
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2008, 08:04:45 pm »

Again - firewall? If it can browse, it should be able to play too.

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Re: Tivo Series 3 HD and MC 12 - Can't Get Server To Work
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2008, 08:12:37 pm »

Frustrating.  Back to square one.  I re-booted my comp and the Media Center server is now back to:

02/18/08 18:09:44 - Starting...
02/18/08 18:09:44 - Checking TiVo Beacon installation
02/18/08 18:09:44 - Connecting to Beacon.
02/18/08 18:09:44 - Unable to connect to Beacon, the API does not exist.
02/18/08 18:09:44 - Failed to start sharing
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Re: Tivo Series 3 HD and MC 12 - Can't Get Server To Work
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2008, 09:11:19 pm »

The first step then is to find out why JRiver Media Center thinks the TiVo beacon isn't installed. Try different things to see if you can determine when it finds the beacon, and when it doesn't.

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Re: Tivo Series 3 HD and MC 12 - Can't Get Server To Work
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2008, 09:55:57 pm »

Right click on the MC icon and choose "run as administrator"

I was getting that problem until I started doing that.
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Re: Tivo Series 3 HD and MC 12 - Can't Get Server To Work
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2008, 06:24:36 pm »

OK - Tivo can finally find Media Center and my music.  I see it on my TV screen.  I click on a song, but now it won't play the song.  I get this message when I look on Media Center's server page (my Tivo desktop is paused, by the way):

02/22/08 16:17:48 - Starting...
02/22/08 16:17:48 - Checking TiVo Beacon installation
02/22/08 16:17:48 - Connecting to Beacon.
02/22/08 16:17:48 - Running on Port 8079
02/22/08 16:18:44 - Browsing File: C:\Users\Matthew\Music\Downloads\Fugees - Mona Lisa (Nappy Heads remix).mp3

What gives?  No sound - nothing.
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Re: Tivo Series 3 HD and MC 12 - Can't Get Server To Work
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2008, 06:37:41 pm »

Then when I hit Live TV to get out of the Media Center playing now screen, this is what pops up in the Media Center Tivo Server screen:

02/22/08 16:35:57 - Bad Request: Unknown Command /TiVoConnect??Command=FlushServer
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Re: Tivo Series 3 HD and MC 12 - Can't Get Server To Work
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2008, 07:33:39 pm »

That message is normal - it's something TiVo implemented long after I did the TiVo Server, and doesn't do anything useful on our system.

What's showing on your TiVo screen when you try to play?

How'd you fix the beacon installation problem?

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Re: Tivo Series 3 HD and MC 12 - Can't Get Server To Work
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2008, 05:25:27 am »

Howdy!

Funny, I am having the same original issue you reported with MC telling me to stop running TiVo Desktop.  I reinstalled TiVo Desktop and still get the same error. I love that you are discussing your issue, but you didn't explain how you were able to bypass the first errors you were getting.  Could you please explain?  Maybe we'll get this fixed together :)

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Re: Tivo Series 3 HD and MC 12 - Can't Get Server To Work
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2008, 08:22:22 am »

Post the info from the TiVo server page here please.
Also, your system info (from the Help menu in MC)

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Tivo Series 3 HD and MC 12 Cant Get Server To Work
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2009, 10:17:57 am »

After reading up a little more on it, I see that it supports up to 4 tuners. And it can record up to 2 shows at once. Dont know if Media Center has these capabilities though.
 
I think it will also allow you to remotely schedule recordings like from Yahoos TV listings, as there are TiVo record options there.
by the way,
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