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Media Jukebox 8.0.343
« on: August 06, 2002, 12:35:58 pm »

Media Jukebox 8.0.343 is available for download:
ftp://ftp.jriver.com/pub/downloads/music/MediaJukebox80343.exe

NOTE: This is beta software. For testing purposes only.

History:
1. Fixed: MJ was sporadically locking up during Replay Gain analysis.
2. NEW: Added a new function to MJAutomation to create and modify playlists.
3. NEW: Added new parameters to MJ command line interface.
4. Fixed: The sort function in MJAutomation was not working with playlists.
5. NEW: Added ability to retrieve Top Hits and Recently Played playlists through MJAutomation
6. NEW: Added option to turn off auto-playback feature.
7. NEW: Added QuickTime 6 support.
8. Fixed: Media Jukebox would fail to import some mp3 files if the first couple of Kb of the file did not have valid information.
9. NEW: Added internal ASPI layer. ASPI drivers are not required anymore for Win NT, 2K, and XP.
10. NEW: Updated ID3Lib to new version.
11. Fixed: Files which only had id3v1 tags were not being parsed correctly by MJ.
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« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2002, 03:17:29 pm »

It appears that the bug that happened when switching TV channels with the Ctrl |PLS| channel number after using the keypad above the channel list has been fixed. Thanks for taking care of that!!

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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2002, 04:17:49 pm »


Added internal ASPI layer. ASPI drivers are not required anymore for Win XP, 2K, and XP


Do it for Win 98. Please.

And what's the difference between Win XP and XP?

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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2002, 04:30:43 pm »

I think I've missed something. What is "MJAutomation"?
Not in "Help". Can't find it in toobar or pulldowns. Plug-in? I'll go look.


I looked. No dice. I found four instances (besides this one) in "Search" but I'm still not enlightened.

Give me the street version of the explanation, please.
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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2002, 04:51:24 pm »

Its some code you shall use if you are making a interface plugin
take a look at this site: http://www.musicex.com/mediajukebox/DevZone/MJAutomation.html
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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2002, 04:58:42 pm »


Do it for Win 98. Please.

We can't. Win 98 comes with ASPI layer installed.


And what's the difference between Win XP and XP?

The difference is in mistyping.

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« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2002, 05:10:01 pm »

Nikolay,


And what's the difference between Win XP and XP?

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The difference is in mistyping.


I knew that. I'm trying to be more like Mike, I mean Mark.

Mouseman,
Thanks. I wish I understood all that stuff.

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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2002, 05:12:02 pm »

<< 6. NEW: Added option to turn off auto-playback feature. >>

I found the option on under "Settings/Options/General" and unchecked it.  Seems to work fine for most adds to Playing Now except when using "Send to/Playing Now - Add (as next to play)", then the playback still starts up by itself.
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« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2002, 05:17:55 pm »

Charlemagne 8

I wish I understood all that stuff.  


Its not as hard as its look :)
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« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2002, 06:52:05 pm »

>>> 9. NEW: Added internal ASPI layer. ASPI drivers are not required anymore for Win NT, 2K, and XP. <<<

Then am I to assume that when I stick a cd in the drive and it says I have no ASPI layer installed that it will still work? It has popped this message up but I didn't try to burn yet.
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« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2002, 08:02:09 pm »

Heres a strange bug that is still occuring in my system. I didnt post it for the past 5 builds or so because i didnt think it was a problem and it still isnt a problem, just annoying now. Whenever I install MJ8 over the old build, the new MJ will load up the first time ON TOP of all other windows. Cant get to anything without closing every app and reloading them. and then it will do it sporadically from time to time. Here are my specs:

Media Jukebox PLUS 8.0.343
Install Path: C:\Program Files\MediaJukebox\

CPU: Intel Pentium 4 1693 MHz MMX
Memory: Total - 785 MB, Free - 565 MB
OS: Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1  (Build 2600)

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2600.0000
ComCtl32.dll: 6.00.2600.0000
Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2600.0000
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2600.0000
wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer
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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2002, 12:28:14 am »

Nevermind. Went thru options and found I needed to re-start for changes. System Info says using internal ASPI, guessing this is right for the new layer.
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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2002, 01:55:19 am »

Love the changes.  Here's what I've seen from the little bit of testing I've done (I should be in bed-thanks a lot!):


>3. NEW: Added new parameters to MJ command line interface.

From http://www.musicex.com/mediajukebox/DevZone/CommandLine.html :

mjextman.exe /Command VolumeSet [Value] sets main volume.  If value is not specified 50% is used.

VolumeSet works beautifully.  Thanks!

mjextman.exe /Command VolumeUp  [Value] increases sound by Value. Default is 5%
mjextman.exe /Command VolumeDown  [Value] decreases sound by Value. Default by 5%


VolumeUp and VolumeDown work as I prefer, but I think the description page needs to be clarified.  If a [Value] is specified, it is absolute; that is, if volume starts at 20%, then VolumeUp 5 adds 5 and results in 25%.  If a [Value] is not specified, then a default of a relative 5% is used; that is, if volume starts at 20%, then VolumeUp adds 5% of 20 and results in 21%.

Again, I like this implementation.  There is no doubt (to me) that an explicit [Value] should be an absolute add or subtract.  But it's nice to have a relative default, so that you can make "small" changes.

But, if for some reason you should decide that you need to standardize, then please go with absolute only (but I prefer it the way it is now).


>6. NEW: Added option to turn off auto-playback feature.

This isn't working for me.  I unchecked the option, but it still starts playing for most Add to PN and Send to PN... options.  I restarted MJ and even rebooted.

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Media Jukebox PLUS 8.0.343
Install Path: C:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\

CPU: Intel Pentium III 598 MHz MMX
Memory: Total - 523 MB, Free - 371 MB
OS: Microsoft Windows 2000  Workstation 5.0 Service Pack 2 (Build 2195)

Internet Explorer: 5.50.4807.2300
ComCtl32.dll: 5.50.4807.2300
Shlwapi.dll: 5.50.4807.2300
Shell32.dll: 5.00.3502.4718
wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer
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« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2002, 03:14:09 am »

Hmm, I found a bug.
If your running a webserver on port 80 (apache in my case) and you try to start MJ with the web plugin installed then it wont start because the web plugin is trying to bind to the port and it's already in use.

It's stopping MJ starting up. Luckily I worked out what it was and so could stop my web server, open MJ, uninstall the web plugin and then start up my server again.

A bit annoying. And the web plugin should have an option to start automatically or not, not just always start.
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« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2002, 05:40:43 am »

Nila,

It's a bug in the Web Remote plug-in.  If it fails it never comes back from Create function.  I'll talk to zigguratt about that.

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« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2002, 07:52:22 am »

One change that i wish, when i delete all track's from a album, it deletes from disk and from library but don't delete the paste where they ware, can you update this?
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« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2002, 08:25:54 am »

ChicoSelfs,


One change that i wish, when i delete all track's from a album, it deletes from disk and from library but don't delete the paste where they ware, can you update this?


I'm not sure I understand the request.

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« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2002, 09:19:20 am »

I think he means the following. And even if he didn't, I do ;-)

If you delete all files from one directory, MJ should automatically delete the directory itself also.
E.g. I use to rename all my files using genre and artist. And if I decide, that some songs shouldn't be pop but rock I do a "rename"-batch using MJ. And MJ left _many_ empty directories this way.
(my naming scheme includes genre\artist\album\files for directory so this happens).

Okay. There is a work-around: Rename to another location and delete the original one. Then do the same: Rename to the original directoryname. But this is only a solution, if one organizes this way (I organize every media file in g:\Medienarchiv).
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« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2002, 09:41:27 am »

yup that's it Mirko thanks, sorry for my english
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« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2002, 09:51:50 am »

Mirko and ChickoSelf,

Empty directories will be removed if you rename file in next build of Media Jukebox.

For example:
Original path: H:\temp mp3\1\2\3\Alternative\song.mp3
Renamed to: H:\temp NEW mp3\1\2\3\Alternative\song.mp3
As a result H:\temp mp3\1\2\3\Alternative\ will be deleted

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« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2002, 10:00:55 am »

Thanks Nikolay for the great job, You guys rules
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« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2002, 10:03:14 am »

>> As a result H:\temp mp3\1\2\3\Alternative\ will be deleted
So someone is working on rename....

by the way this is very good news (deleted unused folders)
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« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2002, 10:06:11 am »

Definitely good news - a great feature. I seem to remember that this was in v7 (or 6) at one point.
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« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2002, 10:11:09 am »

Very good news. Thanks a lot!
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« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2002, 10:16:48 am »

So...without an option, this new feature to 'delete empty directories' can only be disabled by sticking a dummy file or directory in the original directory to prevent a directory deletion?

I ripped to one common directory and then use Move/Copy to move the ripped files to my preferred destination drive and directory location.

Or, is this new feature only applicable to File Prop's Renames and not Move/Copy functions?  If applicable to Move/Copy functions as well...you see my prob?  [My "New Rips" directory will be deleted everytime I do a Move...argh!]

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« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2002, 10:20:52 am »


Or, is this new feature only applicable to File Prop's Renames and not Move/Copy functions?


Currently it works only in File properties. Do you want it to be in Move/Copy?

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« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2002, 10:29:12 am »

>> Do you want it to be in Move/Copy?
Yes Please.
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« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2002, 10:32:50 am »

Obviously, I do *NOT* want it there (in Move/Copy)...still, sounds like a checkbox option is really needed (sorry).
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« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2002, 10:33:17 am »

Me too.
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« Reply #29 on: August 07, 2002, 10:34:12 am »

Nikolay - Any chance of a "clean up" option to get the directory structure to match the library?
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« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2002, 10:39:36 am »

Gatobrit,

Me too.


Do you want it to be there or not???


Nikolay - Any chance of a "clean up" option to get the directory structure to match the library?


I'm not sure how to implement that.  I'm not taking about the coding; I'm not sure about the logic.  Do you have any ideas?

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« Reply #31 on: August 07, 2002, 10:40:01 am »

As "Z" said it would be nice if it was optional, but if not i would like to see it in both move©opy if no files were in folder, and no folders\files were under that folder.
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« Reply #32 on: August 07, 2002, 10:49:23 am »

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« Reply #33 on: August 07, 2002, 10:51:44 am »

Nikolay - I was agreeing with KingSparta about wanting the feature in Move/Copy.

Nikolay - I'm not sure how to implement that. I'm not taking about the coding; I'm not sure about the logic. Do you have any ideas?

In the update directory window an option to remove directory entries in the directory structure specified if the directories are empty.

What do you think?
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« Reply #34 on: August 07, 2002, 10:55:24 am »

For an Option on removing empty directories, I'm fine with just one option to cover all instances (not 1 for File Prop Renames and another Move/Copy).  You see, I don't want MJ to remove empty directories (I'm in the minority, I know...but, that's how I feel).
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« Reply #35 on: August 07, 2002, 10:56:07 am »

I would like to see it in both. Possible it would be best, if that could be optionized.

Listening to: 'For An Angel' from 'Kontor 3 CD1' by 'Paul Van Dyk' on Media Jukebox
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« Reply #36 on: August 07, 2002, 10:58:23 am »

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>> For an Option on removing empty directories,
>> I'm fine with just one option to cover all instances
Same Sheet Of Music

Can You Give A Reason Why Someone Would Not Want To Remove Deleted Dirs, I Can't Think Of Any.
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« Reply #37 on: August 07, 2002, 11:03:57 am »

Options are bad and we don't have any space to include this option.  Real Estate in MJ's Options window is becoming more and more expensive.

How about that, if you hold Shift the directories will not be removed.

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« Reply #38 on: August 07, 2002, 11:12:36 am »

You think, that new users may have difficulties seeing through the jungle of options? Well. That _could_ happen. I see your point.
I personally like options very much, no, even more :-)

But a "shift"-combo? I don't know. The one suggested above does sound right ("put a checkbox in the dialog").

HTH.

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« Reply #39 on: August 07, 2002, 11:14:17 am »

go on with that ideia Nikolay, it's the best way to do this
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« Reply #40 on: August 07, 2002, 11:17:50 am »

>> Options are bad and we don't have
>> any space to include this option.
Plenty Of Space On The Move\Copy Dialog

I do agree that holding shift maybe missed by users.
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« Reply #41 on: August 07, 2002, 11:23:06 am »

Hi

Can I just get clarification on this issue? It is only EMPTY directories that are deleted?

I have album art and notes and lots of stuff in my album directories, that I would not want to lose by mistake!

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« Reply #42 on: August 07, 2002, 12:02:21 pm »

I can see the posts now...
"MJ auto-deleted my C: drive!!!"  

>>Can You Give A Reason Why Someone Would Not Want To Remove Deleted Dirs, I Can't Think Of Any.

If I rip to c:\temp\music\artist\album them move to my real library and nothing else is in c:\temp it will be deleted at the completion of the move?   Not good if c:\temp is my official TEMP folder.  Of course the odds of it being empty are almost non-existent!

Another reason...Testing an alpha or beta V9 with this option would be scary.

Funny, I was in favor of this option yesterday but the more I think about it the less inclined I'd be to use it.

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« Reply #43 on: August 07, 2002, 12:13:00 pm »

MJ only erase The directory where you put the files like
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C:\temp\artist\album\file
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C:\temp

the artist directory are the only thing deleted! daaaa

"MJ auto-deleted my C: drive!!!"

I think that is a little bit impossible to happen
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« Reply #44 on: August 07, 2002, 12:37:22 pm »

>>>MJ only erase The directory where you put the files like

Yeah, but how did MJ know when to stop deleting empty directories?  Say I create a directory c:\usr\ImportedMusic then manually copy an artist\album tree into it.  So I have...

c:\usr\ImportedMusic\ArtistA\Album1\...
c:\usr\ImportedMusic\ArtistA\Album2\...
c:\usr\ImportedMusic\ArtistB\Album1\...

Then I import c:\usr\ImportedMusic.

Now I go to RecentlyImported, fix all the stupid naming mistakes from CDDB, then do a Rename From Properties to get the file into my c:\usr\music main directory.  What logic would MJ use to prevent deleting c:\usr\ImportedMusic?  How did MJ know that I used the Artist\Album naming scheme in ImportedMusic?  That's not recorded in any option anywhere.

>>>MJ auto-deleted my C: drive!!!"
>>I think that is a little bit impossible to happen
Agreed but that won't stop people from CLAIMING it
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« Reply #45 on: August 07, 2002, 12:45:11 pm »

Here is the solution:

1. In File Properties: Confirm Moving window will have option to delete empty folders.

2. In Move/Copy: After moving finished window will come up and as if you want to delete empty folders.

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« Reply #46 on: August 07, 2002, 12:45:37 pm »

>>>MJ auto-deleted my C: drive!!!"
>>I think that is a little bit impossible to happen
Agreed but that won't stop people from CLAIMING it

hahaha that i will like to see

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« Reply #47 on: August 07, 2002, 12:51:59 pm »

Nice Nikolay and if i want to search for Empty folders? Maybe is a request little big
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RE:Media Jukebox 8.0.343
« Reply #48 on: August 07, 2002, 01:00:49 pm »

Clean up of the folders will have to wait till next version.

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RE:Media Jukebox 8.0.343
« Reply #49 on: August 07, 2002, 01:02:11 pm »

Here is a good one:
While testing the feature MJ deleted its own source code.

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