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Discussion: Classical Music
Listener:
--- Quote from: eric999 on November 23, 2008, 08:40:06 pm ---
I guess my first question is whether it's possible to somehow share the tag, view and other aspects of setup for MC12 for use with classical music. I'm not much of a tech person and, if others have setup MC12 for use with classical music and are willing to share that setup, is it possible to somehow provide the customizations that have been created to others to install themselves?
If not, does anyone have any suggestions as to where to start to try and fix the issues I'm having with the [Classical: Piece] expression not working consistently.
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This thread has good info. Search for other threads about classical music. In addition to searching for 'classical', search for posts by people who posted to this thread.
You need to decide what tag information you will need. Darichman clearly has different needs than I do. I was focused on the way I would browse classical music. Screen real estate is limited. I asked myself some questions
Am I going to use panes with text lists of tag values of album covers to browse? (panes with tag value lists)
How many panes do I have room for across the screen? (5 at most)
What tags or expressions do I need to find music to be played? (Sub_genre, Composer, Work name, Artist, sometimes version)
How do I want to format these fields?
Composer - last name only if that is unique. If not, last name, first name
Work name - category then something to identify the specific work It varies with Composer and type of work.
For Mozart, sometimes I use No. 20 and sometimes I use a K. number.
(e.g. Concerto, Piano No. 20 or Serenade, K320 'Posthorn')
Artist - all the performers I need to identify the performance - last name first with underscores separating performers
Sub_genre - type of work (I use this to shorten list of works by composers such as Haydn.)
Name - movement number and name only - 1 Allegro (I had to enter lots of these so I kept it short.
The answers to those questions told me what tags I wanted and how I would use them. When I rip a classical CD, I add the following tags:
Composer (e.g. Haydn)
Album and Work name = enough to identify it (e.g. Symphony No. 53 'La Imperiale')
Artist = concatenated performers (e.g. Fischer, Adam_Austro-Hungarian Haydn Orchestra)
Name = movement ( e.g. 3 - menuetto)
genre (e.g. Classical)
sub-genre (e.g. orchestral / Concerto, Piano / Chamber / Sonata, Piano )
Version = performance reissue version( e.g. mono/stereo or CBS / Essential classics )
Date = date on Cd usually
Track number is filled out automatically
Anything else I add later. MC has great facilities for editing tags later so filling out other tags can be pretty quick and painless.
Do you have to have the [Classical:period} field working right away? Or can you implement it later and let MC fill it out then?
MC has lots of nice features that make entering tag info fast and nearly error free when you rip Cds. It will take time to ripand tag 2000 CDs worth of files but it was certainly worthwhile for me.
Try things out for a small number of files. See what fits your needs. Then take the plunge on your CD library.
Bill
221bBS:
I think this thread should be pinned to the top of the board or the info moved to the wiki. I found the info on this page to be of great help to me when I was trying to figure out how I was going to organize my classical music.
globetrotters1:
I posted some months ago a question here on this forum regarding the structuring of classical music within a combined MC database. Got no bigger response then. Some comments though. But my impression was that no one took me really for serious with my problem as it was "just a music library question". The funniest comment was that I won't need to care about all that in the ripping stage, I could do all the tagging and such in a later stage. Which (as I could find out on a daily base) is totally wrong! You have to do it AT ONCE, everything else is just not manageable!
Well, then started some months ago to rip my collection and came up (as a result of the music import and upcoming problem solving) with a similar structure. My structure reads (within only the classical music section)
1) Music era (from Medieval to 20th Century - 7 entries)
2) Type (Orchestral, Sacred, Secular etc - 6 entries)
3) Subtype (Symphony, Sonata, etc pp - approx 30 entries, growing)
4) Instrument (Violin, Voice, etc pp - the main instrument - 20 entries)
5) Solo Performer(s)
For the Band (=Orchestra), the Composer, the Conductor and all the rest I use the standard fields (which I leave empty within the modern music section)
Within the classical music pane (a custom view I created) I show hierarchically
1) Classical Music Era
2) Artist (can be composer, can be performer)
3) Type
4) Subtype
5) Instrument
6) Year - Album
Works very well for me and especially the fact that I can choose also the main instrument according to my actual mood is very rewarding. So I can sit down and decide that I want to listen to a violin concerto of a certain music era and within a few clicks everything is there
Listener:
globetrotters 1,
Your memory seems to be faulty.
> I posted some months ago a question here on this forum regarding the structuring of classical music
> within a combined MC database. Got no bigger response then. Some comments though.
I searched and found this thread: "Help/Hints Needed: Modern And Classical Music "
that you started.
The very first reply answered your question: same library for both with different view schemes for different kinds of music.
Later in the post you replied
" thanks guys for your hints, especially the column layout helps! appreciated!"
> The funniest comment was that I won't need to care about all that in the ripping stage,
> I could do all the tagging and such in a later stage. Which (as I could find out on a daily base)
> is totally wrong! You have to do it AT ONCE, everything else is just not manageable!
I didn't see a comment like that. Alex B commented
"I wouldn't worry too much about the view schemes configuration on ripping stage.
You can do that later. You could just add a couple of columns to your ripping details view
and fill some additional information before putting the CD box away."
Alex B went on to show the columns he uses in the devices view when he rips a CD.
I think you got good advice then from a number of people.
Bill
globetrotters1:
listener,
I'm sorry if you understood it as an offense, never intended that - just understood it the way I described it
And once again I have to say: we speak different languages or grew up with different languages, and that can always lead to these kind of misunderstandings - for your information: I originally talk German and in daily life Spanish... a source of misunderstandings indeed
I fought for weeks with the best DB setup for my classical music collection. And the more CDs I ripped the more problems I had to solve. Re-adjusting the data in a later stage was more and more difficult the broader the set of criteria got (hope you understand what I mean with that)
Anyway, sorry for any misunderstanding and I'm very happy that someone started this discussion thread, because I really think that a bigger classical music collection generates a lot more problems than the 'modern' music - and it would be cool to have a general guideline for those who do a similar tedious job (as we do) in the future
No intention for putting down any kind of remarks or help attempts here, that's what this forum is for
Peace
Martin :)
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