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Author Topic: Problem to configure french fequencies for TV module with 12.0  (Read 6845 times)

atdir

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I have a big problem to configure the french TV frequencies with the TV module of the 12.0 version. Anyone can help me ...!!?
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Can you tell me more about it? What type of TV - digital (DVB-T) or analog?

If it is DVB-T, you will need to get a frequency table - we have not supplied one for France. You can try finding the frequency table for your country by searching on the Internet, and then add it to this file (if you want to try doing it yourself):

C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center 12\TV\DVB Frequencies.xml

Just follow the format for counties that are already in the file.

Please post the frequency info (a link, or the actual table) here, so I can add it to the file.
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I'm happy for your response. It's a good thing for me and if this problem is resolved I buy MEDIA CENTER 12 immediately!!
I paste in this message the table of the needed frequencies. I hope you can integrate it in the configuration file!! I have failed to do this...

Necessary french frequencies :

CHAÎNES   Norme   CAN.FREQ. DE DISTRIBUTION
1ère FRANCAISE TF1   SECAM L   UHF 62 L 799,25 MHz
2ème FRANCAISE F2   SECAM L   UHF 22 L 479,25 MHz
3ème FRANCAISE F3   SECAM L   UHF 28 L 527,25 MHz
RTL 9   SECAM L   UHF 56 L 751,25 MHz
RTL TVI   PAL BG   VHF 200,75 MHz/C09
M6   SECAM L   VHF 164,75 MHz/S06
ARTE / LA CINQUIEME   SECAM L   VHF 224,75 MHz/C10
CANAL PLUS   SECAM L   UHF 65 L 823,25 MHz
Belgique ( RTBF1 )   PAL BG   UHF 48 G 687,25 MHz
EUROSPORT    SECAM L   VHF 212,75 MHz/S 09
1ère allemande ARD   PAL BG   UHF 24 G 495,25 MHz   
2ème allemande ZDF   PAL BG   UHF 42 G 639,25MHz
3ème allemande SW3   PAL BG   UHF 45 G 663,25 MHz
RTL +   PAL BG   UHF 30 G 543,25 MHz
RAI UNO   PAL BG   UHF 25 G 503,25 MHz
BBC WORLD   PAL BG   UHF 27 G 519,25 MHz
TVE international   PAL BG   VHF 236,25 MHz/S12
RTV - Chaîne Locale   SECAM L   UHF 59 L 775,25 MHz
RAI DUE   PAL BG   VHF 248,75 MHz/S14
TV5 EUROPE   SECAM L   VHF 140,75 MHz/S03
MTV   PAL BG   VHF 260,75 MHz/S15
EURONEWS   PAL BG   VHF 272,75 MHz/S17
PLANETE   SECAM L   UHF 52 L 719,25 MHz
RTP international   PAL BG   VHF 128,75 MHz/S05
TELETOON   PAL BG   VHF 152,75 MHz/S08
TF6   PAL BG   UHF 43 G 647,25 MHz
TVP ( Pologne )   PAL BG   UHF 46 G 671,25 MHz
PARIS PREMIERE   PAL BG   UHF 49 G 695,25 MHz
France Ô   PAL BG   UHF 67 G 839,25 MHz
LCP   PAL BG   UHF 69 G 855,25 MHz
TMC   PAL BG   VHF 189,25 MHz C7
France 4   PAL BG   UHF 40 G 623,25 MHz
GULLI   PAL BG   UHF 38 G 607,25 MHz
W9   PAL BG   VHF 284,75 Mhz/C19

The adaptator is a Philips 73xx Analog/DVBT/SAT.

Can you send the configuration file in my email box please ? It's atdir@yahoo.fr

I wait on your response and I hope that you have a solution!!

Thanks for all!!!

AT
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I'm happy for your response. It's a good thing for me and if this problem is resolved I buy MEDIA CENTER 12 immediately!!
I paste in this message the table of the needed frequencies. I hope you can integrate it in the configuration file!! I have failed to do this...

Necessary french frequencies :

CHAÎNES   Norme   CAN.FREQ. DE DISTRIBUTION
1ère FRANCAISE TF1   SECAM L   UHF 62 L 799,25 MHz
2ème FRANCAISE F2   SECAM L   UHF 22 L 479,25 MHz
3ème FRANCAISE F3   SECAM L   UHF 28 L 527,25 MHz
RTL 9   SECAM L   UHF 56 L 751,25 MHz
RTL TVI   PAL BG   VHF 200,75 MHz/C09
M6   SECAM L   VHF 164,75 MHz/S06
ARTE / LA CINQUIEME   SECAM L   VHF 224,75 MHz/C10
CANAL PLUS   SECAM L   UHF 65 L 823,25 MHz
Belgique ( RTBF1 )   PAL BG   UHF 48 G 687,25 MHz
EUROSPORT    SECAM L   VHF 212,75 MHz/S 09
1ère allemande ARD   PAL BG   UHF 24 G 495,25 MHz   
2ème allemande ZDF   PAL BG   UHF 42 G 639,25MHz
3ème allemande SW3   PAL BG   UHF 45 G 663,25 MHz
RTL +   PAL BG   UHF 30 G 543,25 MHz
RAI UNO   PAL BG   UHF 25 G 503,25 MHz
BBC WORLD   PAL BG   UHF 27 G 519,25 MHz
TVE international   PAL BG   VHF 236,25 MHz/S12
RTV - Chaîne Locale   SECAM L   UHF 59 L 775,25 MHz
RAI DUE   PAL BG   VHF 248,75 MHz/S14
TV5 EUROPE   SECAM L   VHF 140,75 MHz/S03
MTV   PAL BG   VHF 260,75 MHz/S15
EURONEWS   PAL BG   VHF 272,75 MHz/S17
PLANETE   SECAM L   UHF 52 L 719,25 MHz
RTP international   PAL BG   VHF 128,75 MHz/S05
TELETOON   PAL BG   VHF 152,75 MHz/S08
TF6   PAL BG   UHF 43 G 647,25 MHz
TVP ( Pologne )   PAL BG   UHF 46 G 671,25 MHz
PARIS PREMIERE   PAL BG   UHF 49 G 695,25 MHz
France Ô   PAL BG   UHF 67 G 839,25 MHz
LCP   PAL BG   UHF 69 G 855,25 MHz
TMC   PAL BG   VHF 189,25 MHz C7
France 4   PAL BG   UHF 40 G 623,25 MHz
GULLI   PAL BG   UHF 38 G 607,25 MHz
W9   PAL BG   VHF 284,75 Mhz/C19

The adaptator is a Philips 73xx Analog/DVBT/SAT.

Can you send the configuration file in my email box please ? It's atdir@yahoo.fr

I wait on your response and I hope that you have a solution!!

Thanks for all!!!

AT

Hi AT,

I am glad to help.

The table you posted above seems to be for analog TV channels because of references to SECAM and PAL. Do you know if there is separate table for DVB-T? If not, I will try adding these frequencies to the file.

EDIT:

Also, what is the bandwidth for France? 7 or 8?
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atdir

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Hi!

Unfortunately I don't know... How I can konw it ? You can put 7 and If It don't work I will change with 8 value.
How is the format of DVBT Chanel ? But I think that It's not separated frequencie.

If its good I try this afternoon with your files.

Thanks !!
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Yaobing, these are the DVB-T multiplexes-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%A9l%C3%A9vision_Num%C3%A9rique_Terrestre

Cheers

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Yaobing

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Yaobing, these are the DVB-T multiplexes-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%A9l%C3%A9vision_Num%C3%A9rique_Terrestre

Cheers

-Leezer-

Thanks. But I need to know what frequencies the multiplexes are carried on.
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leezer3

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This document should be what you're after-
http://www.tnt-gratuite.fr/Content/pro-bo-doc-tk-frequences_tnt.pdf
How to arrive at the deviation from the base frequency (Per transmitter) appears to be defined in the notes at the bottom.
Having said that, my French isn't good enough to translate technical documents properly.

-Leezer-
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You French is definitely better than mine.

Are you referring to this

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(9) La fréquence en MHz du canal n est définie par la formule :
fréquence centrale = 306 + 8 n + 0.166 d, n étant compris entre 21 et 69, d pouvant prendre les valeurs -1, 0, 1, 2 ou 3 selon les
nécessités de la planification.

Taking a guess (I know no French):

Central Frequency = 306 + 8 n + 0.166 d, where n is between 21 and 69, and d is ...

So 8 MHz must be the bandwidth to use, and the frequencies are (I am ignoring the last term for now) (in MHz):

474
482
490
498
506
514
522
530
538
546
554
562
570
578
586
594
602
610
618
626
634
642
650
658
666
674
682
690
698
706
714
722
730
738
746
754
762
770
778
786
794
802
810
818
826
834
842
850
858
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Right, this is what I make of it  :P
Each transmitter appears to have a set amount of deviation from the base (Central) frequency. Not sure why this is, probably due to thier locations and neighbouring countries, as suggested by various of the notes.
To find the local frequency for any transmitter, use this equation-
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306 + 8n + 0.166dBandwidth is indeed 8Mhz.
n appears to be the number from the column 'Canal'
d can take the values of either -1, 0, 1, 2 or 3 depending on the local situation. (Can't see anything determining precisely what these may be)

Also fished this up; Don't know if its of any help-

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DVB-T Parameters    
Multiplexes    5 in use, 6  planned
Operational bands    UHF
Carrier type    8k
Guard    1/32**
FEC    2/3**
Modulation    64QAM
MFN and SFN    Mostly MFN
Channel bandwidth    8 MHz
Compression    MPEG-2 with MPEG-4pt.10 for Pay TV

Cheers

-Leezer-
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Re: BIG problem to configure french fequencies for TV module with 12.0 version
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2008, 01:04:40 pm »

Hello,
I'm also using JRiver MC in France with a double TNT card (Hauppaugge) and I'm very glad to tell you I've found the french frequency table for DVB-T.
You just need to paste the following list in the file Yaobing has indicated at the top of this topic.
<Country Name="France" CountryCode="33" NetworkType="DVB-T" Bandwidth="8">
   <Channel Freq="474000"/>
   <Channel Freq="482000"/>
   <Channel Freq="490000"/>
   <Channel Freq="498000"/>
   <Channel Freq="506000"/>
   <Channel Freq="514000"/>
   <Channel Freq="522000"/>
   <Channel Freq="530000"/>
   <Channel Freq="538000"/>
   <Channel Freq="546000"/>
   <Channel Freq="554000"/>
   <Channel Freq="562000"/>
   <Channel Freq="570000"/>
   <Channel Freq="578000"/>
   <Channel Freq="586000"/>
   <Channel Freq="594000"/>
   <Channel Freq="602000"/>
   <Channel Freq="610400"/>
   <Channel Freq="618000"/>
   <Channel Freq="626000"/>
   <Channel Freq="634000"/>
   <Channel Freq="642000"/>
   <Channel Freq="650000"/>
   <Channel Freq="658000"/>
   <Channel Freq="666000"/>
   <Channel Freq="674000"/>
   <Channel Freq="682000"/>
   <Channel Freq="690000"/>
   <Channel Freq="698000"/>
   <Channel Freq="706000"/>
   <Channel Freq="714000"/>
   <Channel Freq="722000"/>
   <Channel Freq="730000"/>
   <Channel Freq="738000"/>
   <Channel Freq="746000"/>
   <Channel Freq="754000"/>
              <Channel Freq="762000"/>
   <Channel Freq="770000"/>
   <Channel Freq="778000"/>
   <Channel Freq="786000"/>
   <Channel Freq="794000"/>
   <Channel Freq="802000"/>
   <Channel Freq="810000"/>
   <Channel Freq="818000"/>
   <Channel Freq="826000"/>
   <Channel Freq="834000"/>
   <Channel Freq="842000"/>
   <Channel Freq="850000"/>
   <Channel Freq="858000"/>
    </Country>
Enjoy !
If I've made some mistakes, you can find the original table at this page : http://pagesperso-orange.fr/tvignaud/tv/canaux.htm
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Re: BIG problem to configure french fequencies for TV module with 12.0 version
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2008, 01:07:09 pm »

Merci bien, mouffy!
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Re: BIG problem to configure french fequencies for TV module with 12.0 version
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2008, 01:54:34 pm »

You're welcome,
I've a question now : can we change somewhere the url for the tv guide, in order to put a french website ?
Thanks.
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Re: BIG problem to configure french fequencies for TV module with 12.0 version
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2008, 02:46:42 pm »

MC13 will begin beta next week.  It can use XMLTV.  There is more information in our Wiki (link above).
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