Topic: [Plugin] - AutoTagger (Beta publicly available) (Read 16798 times)

ThoBar · « **on:** March 22, 2009, 08:50:58 pm »

This plugin is now available for beta testing.... NO LONGER TIMEBOMBED

PLEASE BE CAREFUL - Because it's designed to be flexible, this plugin has the potential to seriously screw up your library!! - and your computer in general if you do wierd stuff with MC

PLEASE BE CAREFUL - if you're not 100% confident with how to use MC's search and expression engines DO NOT USE THIS PLUGIN at this stage.
IF YOU DO NOT HAVE COMPLETE BACKUPS OF YOUR LIBRARY AND DATA - DO NOT USE THIS PLUGIN AT THIS STAGE

This plugin is now available here: http://3lsb.com/public/NE_Setup.exe (version 0.8 )

Known Bugs: v0.8.xx
  - Fields with spaces do not work.
  - Auto generate rule name doesnt work
  - The "field" selector in the ruleset editor is unselectable.
  - Non dd/mm/yyyy regional settings may throw an error.

C.

skeeterfood · « **Reply #1 on:** March 26, 2009, 11:01:57 pm »

Something like auto tagging all files imported from somewhere under V:\TV as [Media Sub Type]="TV Show"? If so, I'd love something like that.

Would be nice if auto-filling some tags was configurable per auto-import folder.

-John

ThoBar · « **Reply #2 on:** March 27, 2009, 12:22:26 am »

I'm about 60% done

Once I figure the best way to fire the rule activation, we'll be ready to go for v0.1

ThoBar · « **Reply #3 on:** March 27, 2009, 12:04:56 pm »

OK, an initial test version is ready to go.

I will initially make the plugin available ONLY TO BETA TESTERS.

If you are a member of the Beta team, please send me a PM, or alternatively contact me here.

I will eventually make it open for general use, but not yet.

http://pix01.com/uZ@wgIR

bytestar · « **Reply #4 on:** April 22, 2009, 03:29:52 am »

Hello I want your program test!

Quote from: confishy on March 27, 2009, 12:04:56 pm

OK, an initial test version is ready to go.

I will initially make the plugin available ONLY TO BETA TESTERS.

If you are a member of the Beta team, please send me a PM, or alternatively contact me here.

I will eventually make it open for general use, but not yet.

http://pix01.com/uZ@wgIR

c1c9k72 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 27, 2009, 05:32:03 pm »

This sounds very useful. What's the status on it's build?

mobyfrag · « **Reply #6 on:** May 29, 2009, 11:09:45 am »

Your plugin looks great. Why not a try

ThoBar · « **Reply #7 on:** May 29, 2009, 11:54:33 am »

it's nearly ready for proper testing... life has a habit of interfering with these little projects. Once I know its pretty much stable, I'll re-release it to the beta team, then to the wider user group after that.

It's been a slow process as I've had to learn to code from scratch pretty much, but its been a good learning experience.

C

steveklein · « **Reply #8 on:** May 30, 2009, 10:51:22 am »

i'm not on the beta team, but i *need* this

Can't wait to try it out.

raldo · « **Reply #9 on:** June 02, 2009, 01:22:17 pm »

Hi,

I have a feature suggestion. I am not sure how open you are for suggestions at this point of development, but I'll shoot anyhow...

What I'd like to suggest, is a filename cleaning feature, which will remove all "junk" from a filename and basically come up with a clean movie name.

In Personal Movie Database (http://www.videodb.info/forum_en/index.php?action=forum) , Nostra has basically listed several regular expressions which accomplish exactly this. The expressions can be found under Tools\options\filescanner in PVD...

He has used a freeware library which parses these expressions and spews out clean filenames. The set of expressions is very accurate.

ThoBar · « **Reply #10 on:** June 02, 2009, 01:39:00 pm »

I'll try to have a look. Ultimately, I'd like to have a certain level of "plugin-ability" for this plugin... we'll see how it goes and how much interest there is....

FWIW, the current feature list is:
- Individual run intervals for each Rule Set
- Properties from Filename/path (mostly working I think, but could throw some funny results)
- Do not overwrite existing
- Run External Program
- Expressions ( [somefield]=[Album] - [Artist] Some text )
- "Field Matching": e.g. [Bio] = 1st found [Bio] in matching [Artist] (Sorta there on this one, am weighing up some options on which is the best way to go)

The run external program uses the MC expression engine, so can be useful for creating sidecar files etc... with some clever batching/scripting you can do ALOT with this function

park · « **Reply #11 on:** June 11, 2009, 09:11:28 am »

Confishy, or someone, could you help me get started. I want rules to be able to create the following kinds of rules:

If Album Rating = 0, then tag to 3
If [filename] contains Photos/Brian, then [Source] is Brian

I managed to create them for the previous version of the plugin but cant figure out how to make them with the current interface. Much appreciated.

ThoBar · « **Reply #12 on:** June 12, 2009, 08:20:31 am »

Quote from: park on June 11, 2009, 09:11:28 am

Confishy, or someone, could you help me get started. I want rules to be able to create the following kinds of rules:

If Album Rating = 0, then tag to 3
If [filename] contains Photos/Brian, then [Source] is Brian

I managed to create them for the previous version of the plugin but cant figure out how to make them with the current interface. Much appreciated.

There's a couple of ways to do this.

The first, create a RuleSet to find exactly the files you are looking for using an MC search expression e.g.

Code: [Select]

[Media Type]=[Audio] [Album Gain]=3Then, in the Rule definition (the subnodes), create a rule that sets the vaule of the Tag to 3 (i.e. using a static rule)

For the second example,

Code: [Select]

[Media Type]=[Image] ([Filename]="Brian" or [Filename]="Photos")
Then, use a Static rule to set [Source] to Brian

Alternatively, and this is the better way:

Set the RuleSet to search for ANY file that you MAY want the rule to apply to, then use a "Fill Fields from Expression" Rule to filter and set the value of the field you want - using the MC expression language.
for example, the RuleSet would look something like....

Code: [Select]

[Media Type]=[Image]and the EXPRESSION based RULE would look like (for just Brian)...

Code: [Select]

if(isequal([filename],Brian,7),Brian,[Source]) you could either create a more complex rule for the "OR Photos" or create a second expression rule in the ruleset specifically for "Photos"... which is the way *I would do it....

Essentially a RuleSet is a MC Search string for a given set of Rules to act upon.

park · « **Reply #13 on:** June 14, 2009, 06:18:28 am »

Thanks.
So I when I set an expression type rule I can leave the "Field" field empty and just paste the expression into the "Value" part, yeah?

Also, I notice that the auto generate rule name doesnt seem to be working, and the "field" selector in the ruleset editor is unselectable.

park · « **Reply #14 on:** June 14, 2009, 07:03:45 am »

One more question. Will the autotagger wait till a rule has finished before going on the the next one? Because for example, one of my rules (once the tags have been applied to a bunch of files) will make the rules after it non-applicable (and this is desireable).

park · « **Reply #15 on:** June 14, 2009, 08:12:17 am »

One more thing, the rules are getting wiped for me every time I restart MC. But saving and reloading them is working fine.

ThoBar · « **Reply #16 on:** June 14, 2009, 06:33:16 pm »

Quote from: park on June 14, 2009, 06:18:28 am

Thanks.
So I when I set an expression type rule I can leave the "Field" field empty and just paste the expression into the "Value" part, yeah?

Also, I notice that the auto generate rule name doesnt seem to be working, and the "field" selector in the ruleset editor is unselectable.

The field should be the one you want to set, so in the second example you give, it would be Source

Quote from: park on June 14, 2009, 07:03:45 am

One more question. Will the autotagger wait till a rule has finished before going on the the next one? Because for example, one of my rules (once the tags have been applied to a bunch of files) will make the rules after it non-applicable (and this is desireable).

Yes, well, in theory. It fires the requests to MC, which should finish them before the next requests - so far it's always worked that way for me.

Quote from: park on June 14, 2009, 08:12:17 am

One more thing, the rules are getting wiped for me every time I restart MC. But saving and reloading them is working fine.

Is this in MC13 or 14? I'll have a look. Are you also clicking "save as default" not just "save as"?

ThoBar · « **Reply #17 on:** June 15, 2009, 06:33:07 am »

The plugin is now available for general testing .. please see the first post

ThoBar · « **Reply #18 on:** June 16, 2009, 09:56:48 am »

Added Bugs section in first post

Lasse_Lus · « **Reply #19 on:** June 17, 2009, 04:44:13 am »

hi confishy, really interesting stuff here,

but i've got some problems when initializing the plugin (first time after start of MC)

after pressing ok 2 times it seems to work correctly

is it something that can be fixed ?

ThoBar · « **Reply #20 on:** June 17, 2009, 08:12:28 am »

Lasse_Lus,

Thanks for testing, I should be able to fix it, though I'm surprised you're seeing it... ah... on 2nd glance, it may be because of regional settings... I will think on it.

Thanks for the feedback.

rick.ca · « **Reply #21 on:** June 17, 2009, 05:10:01 pm »

FWIW, I get exactly the same error as Lasse_Lus. I don't understand the context, but the path in the last line of the error message seems out of place.

ThoBar · « **Reply #22 on:** June 17, 2009, 10:09:51 pm »

Quote from: rick.ca on June 17, 2009, 05:10:01 pm

FWIW, I get exactly the same error as Lasse_Lus. I don't understand the context, but the path in the last line of the error message seems out of place.

Thats just a reference to where the code is on my machine, meaningless for you, helpful for me

park · « **Reply #23 on:** June 23, 2009, 07:43:38 am »

The latest version has expired on me again.

ThoBar · « **Reply #24 on:** June 23, 2009, 09:17:13 am »

New version is up.

Lasse_Lus · « **Reply #25 on:** June 24, 2009, 12:16:02 pm »

Quote from: confishy on June 23, 2009, 09:17:13 am

New version is up.

Date issue gone

next..

"rules are active" is deactivated when MC starts

..also, some strange stuff regarding the fields..what name do you use ?.....
EDIT: i saw this now - "Fields with spaces do not work."

confishy this is really great stuff

ThoBar · « **Reply #26 on:** June 24, 2009, 06:55:33 pm »

Quote from: Lasse_Lus on June 24, 2009, 12:16:02 pm

Date issue gone

Good news

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"rules are active" is deactivated when MC starts

this is by design at this point, while we're in the testing phase

Quote

..also, some strange stuff regarding the fields..what name do you use ?.....
EDIT: i saw this now - "Fields with spaces do not work."

Yep, they DO work in some places, but not others. I'm trying to sort this out, but have been a bit busy.

Quote

confishy this is really great stuff

Thanks! I'm glad you're enjoying it!

C.

ThoBar · « **Reply #27 on:** June 25, 2009, 01:59:10 am »

Quote from: Lasse_Lus on June 24, 2009, 12:16:02 pm

EDIT: i saw this now - "Fields with spaces do not work."

Can you please verify for me where you're seeing the issue with fields with spaces? Is it only in the "Fill from Properties" section?

Lasse_Lus · « **Reply #28 on:** June 25, 2009, 03:49:09 am »

Quote from: confishy on June 25, 2009, 01:59:10 am

Can you please verify for me where you're seeing the issue with fields with spaces? Is it only in the "Fill from Properties" section?

in my original post this snapshot was included

..and to sort that out, i have prefix in the displayarea in manage library fields like @,#^
so in this case when i select "@ album" from the dropdownlist it does not work, i have to enter album "manually"
and it works also after restart, but if you have "Fill Fields from Expression" then autotagger has a blank field after restart.

Lasse_Lus · « **Reply #29 on:** June 25, 2009, 04:57:54 am »

regarding the fields, i have alot of custom fields with spaces and prefix, and i dont' want to change them since it's the only way to have some structure with the MC database..

but an easy way to adress this issue is to create a calculated field i.e "autotaggertopalbum" in one word,
with a reference to your choosen field, then the fields come up at the bottom, since the sortorder seems to be on date.

also for other who wants to test, i think the most easy way of creating a query in autotagger is to create a smartlist and copy to AT

a little sidenote: when i want to edit a query it takes quite long time, it's no problem but is that because i have a lot of custom fields and quite a lot of data ?

Lasse_Lus · « **Reply #30 on:** June 25, 2009, 05:00:49 am »

Quote from: Lasse_Lus on June 25, 2009, 03:49:09 am

.. but if you have "Fill Fields from Expression" then autotagger has a blank field after restart.

even though i choose a field with no spaces, it's blank every time when restart so i guess there is something else

ThoBar · « **Reply #31 on:** June 25, 2009, 10:37:52 am »

Thanks for the feedback. I'll try to have a good look this weekend.

park · « **Reply #32 on:** July 15, 2009, 08:15:17 am »

MC14 is crashing for me everytime I access it as a client from outside of home. Funny thing is it only happens when autotagger is enabled.

I will investigate more over the next few days and report back.

ThoBar · « **Reply #33 on:** July 15, 2009, 09:29:24 am »

Park,

The timebomb is about to kick in. I'll send you a new version shortly.

C.

park · « **Reply #34 on:** July 18, 2009, 03:46:47 am »

timebomb has gone off.

park · « **Reply #35 on:** July 22, 2009, 08:52:19 am »

Hi confishy. Any update? I cant test why it was causing MC to crash til it's working again.

ThoBar · « **Reply #36 on:** July 22, 2009, 08:17:40 pm »

Sorry Park (et.al.) I've been flatout lately, so havent even fired up my dev machine.

I'll try to get on to it today.

C.

park · « **Reply #37 on:** August 17, 2009, 08:36:19 pm »

A recent change in MC has meant that this plugin refuses to start.

ThoBar · « **Reply #38 on:** August 19, 2009, 01:17:11 am »

Quote from: park on August 17, 2009, 08:36:19 pm

A recent change in MC has meant that this plugin refuses to start.

Strange, I'm using the latest Beta, and it seems to be working fine...

Are you getting any error messages?

park · « **Reply #39 on:** August 19, 2009, 11:38:37 am »

Yep, my mistake. I upgraded MC to a newer beta and everything works again.

ThoBar · « **Reply #40 on:** August 20, 2009, 08:11:04 pm »

This beta is now fully open ... no warranty expressed or implied. No responsibility taken for this version.

JimH · « **Reply #41 on:** August 20, 2009, 08:33:52 pm »

Is there a test required? Where is the application for it?

ThoBar · « **Reply #42 on:** August 20, 2009, 10:33:07 pm »

Quote from: JimH on August 20, 2009, 08:33:52 pm

Is there a test required? Where is the application for it?

Umm, not quite sure what you mean Jim.

People have been "testing" it for me for a while, it has a few known bugs, but none that should be critical (I believe).

by "Application"...
-- The link to the plugin is in the first post,
--but if you mean "where/why would I use it", then some examples may help...

If "movie" is not watched/rated/etc, move it to folder 'x'
If a rating is below '1' move it to "x:\deletable"
If "artist" = <searched criteria artist> then set Biography to the matched Biography
If Composer or Period or Artist or Opus or xxx is blank, then NeedsWork=1
If type=video and name=blank then <fill properties from filename>
If type=video and extension=avi then <run external command to make it mkv>

park · « **Reply #43 on:** August 20, 2009, 10:33:12 pm »

confishy, I am still seeing MC crash after setting "make rules active". It seems to happen a few hours after enabling the rules. I'll try to get a log from MC.

I'm using it with MC14 installed on a WHS machine, with library server running.

ThoBar · « **Reply #44 on:** August 20, 2009, 10:34:47 pm »

Park,

it may be something to do with the timer events, I'll try to have a look.

(our previous posts are 5 seconds apart

)

park · « **Reply #45 on:** August 20, 2009, 10:37:23 pm »

I have some of the following rules:

If unrated, set rating to 3.
If exists in home video folder, set [Type] to Home video, set [Country] to Japan, set [Area] to Tokyo.
If [Camera] is 40D, set [Source] to Brian, set [Country] to Japan, set [Area] to Tokyo.

Most of my files use much of the same metadata. It's easier to have autotagger set everything to a bunch of default metadata, and just make minor adjustments when necessary.

hit_ny · « **Reply #46 on:** September 13, 2009, 11:07:57 am »

Quote from: confishy on August 20, 2009, 10:33:07 pm

If "movie" is not watched/rated/etc, move it to folder 'x'

I'm wondering if its possible to move the folder the file resides in as well whilst preserving the folder name.

I'm looking for a directory mover that can move folders of files depending on the genre of the file.

ThoBar · « **Reply #47 on:** September 14, 2009, 08:58:54 pm »

Quote from: hit_ny on September 13, 2009, 11:07:57 am

I'm wondering if its possible to move the folder the file resides in as well whilst preserving the folder name.

I'm looking for a directory mover that can move folders of files depending on the genre of the file.

This should definitely be possible using the "Fill Fields from Expression" Rule type. You would set the field to be edited as "Filename (path)", then use an MC compatible expression to set the path.

raym · « **Reply #48 on:** November 11, 2009, 06:58:25 pm »

Hey great plugin!! If only MC's auto-import could do this :-)

Is development still active? I've found just one bug where right-clicking a rule set and choosing edit results in an exception. Using MC14 on XP SP2.

Cheers.

ThoBar · « **Reply #49 on:** November 11, 2009, 08:41:14 pm »

Quote from: raym on November 11, 2009, 06:58:25 pm

Is development still active? I've found just one bug where right-clicking a rule set and choosing edit results in an exception. Using MC14 on XP2.

It's currently under 're-development'... I'm trying to take it to a new level, with things like plugins so other people can add their own functions, a new interface etc. This stage will take me some time, but hopefully will result in an awesome feature set. (If things go well it will be rebadged as "MC Automator")

I'll have a quick look at the problem you've found and see if I can fix it...

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