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JimH

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The Fed
« on: December 03, 2009, 06:28:49 pm »

Ben Bernanke, Chairman of the Federal Reserve, is testifying before Congress as part of their consideration of his confirmation to serve another term.  There were some interesting things said today.  Here's the Reuters article:

http://www.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idUSTRE5B23M320091203
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Re: The Fed
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2009, 08:16:48 pm »

Isn't he the one who can't file his own taxes correctly?
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Re: The Fed
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2009, 11:01:36 pm »

History will show that Bernanke is an incompetent idiot. All he has accomplished is to delay and worsen the cleansing of bad debt that must eventually take place, and he has shifted the pain from a few that deserved it to many that don't. There is no free lunch.
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Re: The Fed
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2009, 07:15:34 am »

Bernanke is neither incompetent nor stupid.

Dissipation of bad debt over a longer period isn't necessarily bad.  If it's done over a short time, panic affects prices.

I posted the article because I think it's important to watch what the Fed does.  They have a huge impact on our lives.

So far, I think Bernanke has acted pretty rationally.
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Re: The Fed
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2009, 08:13:06 am »

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shifted the pain from a few that deserved it to many that don't

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Dissipation of bad debt over a longer period isn't necessarily bad.  If it's done over a short time, panic affects prices.

rjm's point about who should be responsible for the bad debt is important.

Goldman Sachs held junk swaps through AIG.  The government back-stopped (socialized) AIG losses and made full counter parties like Goldman Sachs.  This year Goldman Sachs will generate over $10 billion in private profit.

Is socialized risk and privatized profit right?
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Re: The Fed
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2009, 08:23:05 am »

I think Bernanke should be history though he MAY be able to slide through. Fortunately it seems likely the we are finally going to seem some oversight of the treasury department nad the Fed. This editorial pretty much sums up my feelings on Bernanke:

Editorial: The Bernanke Record
Source: Wall Street Journal

December 3, 2009

Will he repeat the mistakes of his four years?

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke faces his Senate renomination hearing today, amid signs that the confirmation skids are greased. We nonetheless think someone should say that, as a matter of accountability for the financial crisis and looking at the hard monetary choices to come, the country needs a new Fed chief.

We say this not because of Mr. Bernanke's performance during the financial panic of 2008, for which he has been widely and often deservedly praised. Like others in the regulatory cockpit at the time, he had to make difficult choices with imperfect information and when the markets were shooting with real bullets.

He supplied ample liquidity when it was most needed last autumn, and he has certainly been willing to pull out every last page of the central banker playbook. If some of those decisions were mistakes, the conditions the Fed faced were extraordinary. Anyone at the helm would have made calls that in hindsight he'd regret.

The real problem is Mr. Bernanke's record before the panic, with its troubling implications for a second four years. When George W. Bush nominated the Princeton economist four years ago, we offered the backhanded compliment that at least he'd have to clean up the mess that the Alan Greenspan Fed had made. That mess turned out to be bigger than even we thought, but we also didn't know then how complicit Mr. Bernanke was in Mr. Greenspan's monetary decisions.

Now we do, thanks to the release of the Federal Open Market Committee transcripts from 2003. They show (see "Bernanke at the Creation," June 23, 2009) that Mr. Bernanke was the intellectual architect of the decision to keep monetary policy exceptionally easy for far too long as the economy grew rapidly from 2003-2005. He imagined a "deflation" that never occurred, ignored the asset bubbles in commodities and housing, dismissed concerns about dollar weakness, and in the process stoked the credit mania that led to the financial panic.

This, too, might be forgivable if Mr. Bernanke had made any attempt in recent months to acknowledge the Fed's role in the mania. Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, Dallas Fed President Richard Fisher and others have conceded that monetary policy was too loose. How central banks can minimize, if not prevent, asset bubbles without inducing recessions would seem to be a subject for candid Fed debate.

But Mr. Bernanke and Vice Chairman Don Kohn have formed an intellectual moat around the Fed, blaming the credit bubble on the "global savings glut" that they themselves helped to create. They are the Edith Piafs of central banking, regretting nothing.

All of this bears directly on how the Fed will operate over the next four years. We are now in another period of extraordinary monetary ease. Mr. Bernanke is assuring the world that, this time, he knows how and when to start removing this stimulus, even as he also promises that the Fed will remain easy for months to come. The guideposts the Fed claims to follow on policy—the jobless rate, "resource utilization"—also remain the same. Price signals, especially the value of the dollar, count for much less in this Fed's decision-making.

Earlier this decade, the Fed had 20 years of sound-money history as a source of credibility. The world's investors were willing to give the Greenspan Fed the benefit of the doubt—too much doubt as it turned out. But now, after the mania and panic, investors are unlikely to show such forbearance. That's already clear in Asia, where the falling dollar is creating monetary distortions, and investors are bidding up assets and currencies on a bet that the dollar is in for further declines. Sooner rather than later, Mr. Bernanke will have to tighten money even if the U.S. jobless rate remains higher than everyone would like.

The Fed chairman has shown he knows how to ease money, and creatively so. But that is the easy part of his job. The hard part, the time when central bankers earn their fame, is when they have to take the money away. We see little in the chairman's policy history or guideposts to suggest he will be willing to endure the criticism that will come with tightening money amid a lackluster recovery, if that is what is required to protect the dollar or prevent an inflation outbreak.

The political irony today is that even as Mr. Bernanke is cruising toward confirmation, the Fed as an institution is under its most sustained political attack in two generations. The political class is especially riled about the Fed's forays into fiscal policy. While that is understandable given the last year, the response to this action should not be to put the Fed under even greater political control from Congress. That is the Argentinian solution.

The better response is to hold policy makers accountable for their actions, including chairmen of the Federal Reserve. At this monetary moment more than any since the late 1970s, the Fed needs a hard-money chairman with the courage and credibility to resist the temptation to escape from the consequences of the last bubble by floating another one.

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Re: The Fed
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2009, 08:27:35 am »

And Senator Sanders has put a hold on his confirmation:

Release: Sanders Puts Hold on Bernanke

December 2, 2009

WASHINGTON, December 2 – Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) today placed a hold on the nomination of Ben Bernanke for a second term as chairman of the Federal Reserve.

“The American people overwhelmingly voted last year for a change in our national priorities to put the interests of ordinary people ahead of the greed of Wall Street and the wealthy few,” Sanders said. “What the American people did not bargain for was another four years for one of the key architects of the Bush economy.”   

As head of the central bank since 2006, Bernanke could have demanded that Wall Street provide adequate credit to small and medium-sized businesses to create decent-paying jobs in a productive economy, but he did not.

He could have insisted that large bailed-out banks end the usurious practice of charging interest rates of 30 percent or more on credit cards, but he did not.

He could have broken up too-big-to-fail financial institutions that took Federal Reserve assistance, but he did not.

He could have revealed which banks took more than $2 trillion in taxpayer-backed secret loans, but he did not.

“The American people want a new direction on Wall Street and at the Fed.  They do not want as chairman someone who has been part of the problem and who has been responsible for many of the enormous difficulties that we are now experiencing,” Sanders said.  “It’s time for a change at the Fed.”

The Federal Reserve has four main responsibilities: to conduct monetary policy in a way that leads to maximum employment and stable prices; to maintain the safety and soundness of financial institutions; to contain systemic risk in financial markets; and to protect consumers against deceptive and unfair financial products.

Since Bernanke took over as Fed chairman in 2006, unemployment has more than doubled and, today, 17.5 percent of the American workforce is either unemployed or underemployed.

Not since the Great Depression has the financial system been as unsafe, unsound, and unstable as it has been during Mr. Bernanke's tenure.  More than 120 banks have failed since he became chairman.

Under Bernanke's watch, the value of risky derivatives held at our nation's top commercial banks grew from $110 trillion to more than $290 trillion, 95 percent of which are concentrated in just five financial institutions.

Bernanke failed to prevent banks from issuing deceptive and unfair financial products to consumers.  Under his leadership, mortgage lenders were allowed to issue predatory loans they knew consumers could not afford to repay. This risky practice was allowed to continue long after the FBI warned in 2004 of an "epidemic" in mortgage fraud.

After the financial crisis hit, Bernanke's response was to provide trillions of dollars in virtually zero-interest loans and other taxpayer assistance to some of the largest financial institutions in the world.  Adding insult to injury, Bernanke refused to tell the American people the names of the institutions that received this handout or the terms involved.

“Mr. Bernanke has failed at all four core responsibilities of the Federal Reserve,” Sanders concluded.  “It’s time for him to go."
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Re: The Fed
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2009, 08:33:49 am »

Bernie is a smart guy and generally good on economic issues, but I think he's playing to his constituency.

In hindsight, it's easy to find fault with decisions, but at the time, it was a huge scary mess.  I think they pulled us back from something a lot worse.

It's great to see you quote the WSJ, Bob!

I wish Jesse Ventura would take the Chairman's job.

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Re: The Fed
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2009, 09:17:02 am »

It's great to see you quote the WSJ, Bob!
There are a couple of people there that Murdoch hasn't replaced YET ...
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Re: The Fed
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2009, 09:24:09 am »

Also, their last point about Argentina was out of place. The reason why Argentina went down the tubes was because they followed IMF policy and privatized everything. Then when it predictably went to hell, the elites took the money out of the country while the currency collapsed and they went through a president a week. Of course the average person was not allowed access to their money while it turned to dust. The recovery began WHEN they reestablished government control over their financial system.
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Re: The Fed
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2009, 03:12:31 pm »

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I think he's playing to his constituency

I Agree

I Think Greenspan Did Not Care About The Politics, And Did What Was Right No Matter Who Was In Office.
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Re: The Fed
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2010, 03:21:04 pm »

In hindsight, it's easy to find fault with decisions, but at the time, it was a huge scary mess.  I think they pulled us back from something a lot worse.
Agree, and that's what history will remember him for. It certainly could have been a lot worse. Dollar is still in demand and going nowhere anytime soon.

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Is socialized risk and privatized profit right?
Ahh, but when the times were sweet nearly everyone was partaking in the pie were they not. Can't have it both ways :)

It always goes in cycles, tighter laws and more oversight means lower profits for everybody, when memory of past bad times fades the laws get loosened and we look the other way. Everybody should own their own house and all that.

Small consolation but there are just two investment banks left standing after this debacle, that would have been unimaginable only a few years ago.
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Re: The Fed
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2010, 03:32:40 pm »

It is Apple's fault.  Right? :-)
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