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JimH

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NEW: Movie Info
« on: September 06, 2011, 10:31:08 am »

You can use MC to lookup information for any full length movie.  Open Video/Movies*, then right click on a movie, and choose "Look up movie info".  You will have a choice of three sources:

TMDb

Wikipedia

Rotten Tomatoes

If you find these services useful, please consider a donation.

* If you don't find a movie where it belongs, open Video/Unassigned.  If you can find the movie there, edit the tag and change the tag called "Media subtype" to Movie.
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Re: NEW: Movie Info
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2011, 10:44:49 am »

I used it the other day when I ripped my first BluRay. For our particular movie Wikipedia had the most information. I previously used MyMovies but have found it a bit of a hassle to deal with. I also had to change the Sub Type to 'Movie' at the suggestion of another forum member.

Thanks very much for this useful feature!

Rod
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Re: NEW: Movie Info
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2011, 11:00:29 am »

Why is IMDb not used?
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Re: NEW: Movie Info
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2011, 11:01:33 am »

I used it the other day when I ripped my first BluRay. For our particular movie Wikipedia had the most information. I previously used MyMovies but have found it a bit of a hassle to deal with. I also had to change the Sub Type to 'Movie' at the suggestion of another forum member.

Thanks very much for this useful feature!

Rod

Hey Rod,

I find that Wikipedia may have more info, but the quality of the info is not really what I'm looking for. e.g. I don't want to know that "xzy is an American horror movie directed by ZYX with a budget of $###. It was released to wide acclaim and took $@@@ in its first week at the box office."

At least not in the description field. I much prefer the movie synopsis that TMDB offers. I'll check the Rotten Tomatoes feature tonight.
Thanks very much to the crew for adding this.
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Re: NEW: Movie Info
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2011, 11:18:20 am »

Why is IMDb not used?
When we last checked, there was a big fee involved.
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Re: NEW: Movie Info
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2011, 11:44:18 am »

Much love guys <3 <3 <3 <3 That surely speeds up my day-to-day videos and series import.



Hey wait, did i say how much i love you?
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Re: NEW: Movie Info
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2011, 11:53:34 am »

When we last checked, there was a big fee involved.

Ah, sorry about that (I was one of the IMDb founders...); stepped down in 2001 so have no control any more.  Have queried the team on the current API and will feed back if I find anything helpful.

Mark
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Re: NEW: Movie Info
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2011, 12:01:43 pm »

are there certain search rules we must use?
 i tried updating tag for tv series Entourage

The filename is Entourage - Season 8 - EP 7, the media subtype is tv show, I chose tvdb but nothing pops up.

When i use autometa plugin (which uses tvdb) it fills in the info for me... Ideas please?
also when i goto TVDB website via browser the info is there (see link) http://thetvdb.com/?tab=episode&seriesid=74543&seasonid=465439&id=4105001&lid=7

Thanks
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Re: NEW: Movie Info
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2011, 12:06:04 pm »

Ah, sorry about that (I was one of the IMDb founders...); stepped down in 2001 so have no control any more.  Have queried the team on the current API and will feed back if I find anything helpful.

Thanks.
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Re: NEW: Movie Info
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2011, 02:18:00 pm »

Thanks ...

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Re: NEW: Movie Info
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2011, 03:15:06 pm »

Now we just need an automatic scrape on import (fingers crossed).
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Re: NEW: Movie Info
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2011, 03:49:39 pm »

Hey Rod,

I find that Wikipedia may have more info, but the quality of the info is not really what I'm looking for. e.g. I don't want to know that "xzy is an American horror movie directed by ZYX with a budget of $###. It was released to wide acclaim and took $@@@ in its first week at the box office."

At least not in the description field. I much prefer the movie synopsis that TMDB offers. I'll check the Rotten Tomatoes feature tonight.
Thanks very much to the crew for adding this.

Thanks fitbrit. I'll take another look at the other two sources. I wouldn't mind that extra information if it also included the most pertinent. Also wonder if this may change quite a bit from movie to movie.

Rod
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Re: NEW: Movie Info
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2011, 04:13:03 pm »

are there certain search rules we must use?
 i tried updating tag for tv series Entourage

The filename is Entourage - Season 8 - EP 7, the media subtype is tv show, I chose tvdb but nothing pops up.

When i use autometa plugin (which uses tvdb) it fills in the info for me... Ideas please?
also when i goto TVDB website via browser the info is there (see link) http://thetvdb.com/?tab=episode&seriesid=74543&seasonid=465439&id=4105001&lid=7

Thanks

Don't think there is an option for TV Show lookup (would be nice though) - only movies.
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Re: NEW: Movie Info
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2011, 04:27:08 pm »

+1

TVDb episode lookup would be nice.
 ;)

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Re: NEW: Movie Info
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2011, 05:49:49 pm »

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Re: NEW: Movie Info
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2011, 08:59:31 pm »

steelman1991 thanks for clarification. i thought TV series worked, due to lookup movie info it allows for us to chose TVDB.

+1 then :)
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Re: NEW: Movie Info
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2011, 10:23:31 pm »

If you find these services useful, please consider a donation.
I'm try to word this response without sounding like a total @$$, but didn't I buy this program already? Even if I wanted to donate, I looked around and didn't see a donation button/link anywhere.
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Re: NEW: Movie Info
« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2011, 10:30:36 pm »

I'm try to word this response without sounding like a total @$$, but didn't I buy this program already? Even if I wanted to donate, I looked around and didn't see a donation button/link anywhere.

Yeah, about that... Jim was talking about donating to the free meta-data lookup services such as Wikipedia, TMDB etc.
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Re: NEW: Movie Info
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2011, 02:02:28 am »

steelman1991 thanks for clarification. i thought TV series worked, due to lookup movie info it allows for us to chose TVDB.

+1 then :)

xtacbyme - just curious if you have access to a newer build, because the only options I have are the 3 mentioned by Jim in the opening post?
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Re: NEW: Movie Info
« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2011, 08:38:24 am »

Clarification from IMDb: They still allow full access to datasets for non-commercial use, which isn't much use here and there's no public API anyway, just full datasets.

There are third-party sites that munge data:

http://deanclatworthy.com/imdb/

But I guess that's not a path to go down... as those sites might not be stable/around long.

Mark

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Re: NEW: Movie Info
« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2011, 12:31:41 pm »

my fault steelman1991... i just looked again and i read it wrong - it's TMDb (movie database)
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Re: NEW: Movie Info
« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2011, 12:49:00 pm »

Thanks again, Mark.
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Re: NEW: Movie Info
« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2011, 01:30:27 am »

I just did a bunch of testing on this feature. It's a very good first step towards metadata management.

Rick.ca has done an excellent job of covering the sophisticated features we need in the future. Let me suggest a few small improvements to the current Get Movie Info.

1) MC uses [Name] for it's search. If it does not find what you want, you can edit the search and try again. This all makes sense and works great. However MC then changes [Name] to the edited search value. This does not make sense. For example, I have [Name] set to "Aliens 2 (Aliens)" because I want to force the sort order for my Alien movies. I know Aliens is the correct name but I don't want to change it. I do understand this means I have to manually enter Aliens for the search.

2) I find some data from the various sources is useful and other data is just clutter. In the search result box there should be a tick box beside each piece of found data. We could clear the box for the data we do not want added to our library. MC would remember the choices and display them each time in case we wanted to change them for a specific movie. This would also provide a crude method for merging data from multiple sources. I could, for example, take the description from TMDb and the critic rating from Rotten Tomatoes.

3) We need a batch mode. For version 0.1 I envision selecting a block of movies, right clicking to Get Movie Info, being asked which data source I want to use, MC then goes and gets the data and displays an abbreviated summary table with small thumbnail, name, year, and director. I then untick any that are wrong in the table, and press go.
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Re: NEW: Movie Info
« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2011, 10:10:54 pm »

Found a small problem. It can be a challenge to get the correct artwork for 2 different movies with the same name if the preferred data source is TMDb. I think this is caused by the default thumbnail filename being [Name] and because TMDb does not append the year to the title.

Would be nice to fix this since TMDb seems to have the best artwork.

Examples include:

Casino Royale (1967 & 2006)
True Grit (1969 & 2010)
Italian Job (1969 & 2003)
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Re: NEW: Movie Info
« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2011, 10:21:46 pm »

Another small problem.

Budget and Gross Revenue (data pulled from TMDb) do not sort correctly. For example, $150,000,000 sorts smaller than $160,000.
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Re: NEW: Movie Info
« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2011, 11:31:06 pm »

17.0.25

Has something changed?

I was consistently getting nice large artwork from TMDb.

Now I consistently get small artwork from TMDb.

It's more than doubling my time to get info because I have to manually find artwork from a different source.

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Re: NEW: Movie Info
« Reply #26 on: November 03, 2011, 11:49:30 am »

17.0.25

Has something changed?

I was consistently getting nice large artwork from TMDb.

Now I consistently get small artwork from TMDb.

It's more than doubling my time to get info because I have to manually find artwork from a different source.

I just noticed this last night too.  I imported a couple new movies and it was pulling down 5kb or so thumbnails which really don't look all that good on a 50" plasma.  A couple of the movies I already had a folder.jpg for in the parent directory, so I copied that to the directory the file resided in, so that fixed that problem.  I was too lazy to hit up themovedb.org to download decent sized artwork though.  Glad to hear that it wasn't only me that experienced this.
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Re: NEW: Movie Info
« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2011, 01:15:34 pm »

I think TMDb changed their server a little.

In 17.0.28 and later:
Fixed: TMDb movie lookup was not always getting the highest quality image available.
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Re: NEW: Movie Info
« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2011, 02:32:31 pm »

I think TMDb changed their server a little.

In 17.0.28 and later:
Fixed: TMDb movie lookup was not always getting the highest quality image available.

Will there be a fix for MC 16 as well? I ran into the same thing this weekend.
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Re: NEW: Movie Info
« Reply #29 on: November 10, 2011, 11:09:07 am »

Will there be a fix for MC 16 as well? I ran into the same thing this weekend.

Anybody know?
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Re: NEW: Movie Info
« Reply #30 on: November 19, 2011, 07:42:34 am »

I think TMDb changed their server a little.

In 17.0.28 and later:
Fixed: TMDb movie lookup was not always getting the highest quality image available.

Is it possible/intended to fix this in MC16 as well?
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