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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #50 on: July 12, 2016, 01:05:09 pm »

I found a dumb error I made.

Please try this DLL.  Download the zipped file, unzip it and copy the dll into MC21 installation folder.  Let's see how far this will bring us.  Please capture a set of log files regardless what the outcome is.
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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #51 on: July 13, 2016, 05:37:24 am »

Hello Yaobing,
I will check it in the evening.

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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #52 on: July 13, 2016, 12:19:38 pm »

Hello Yaobing,
still Problems.
Here is the Report the error which apeers on the Screen.
The first Report is if I use the DVBVIewer record Service as SAT>IP Server
The second Report if I directly use the Octopus Net Sat>IP server

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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #53 on: July 14, 2016, 04:45:59 pm »

OK, that did not go very far.  It turned out that there were more than one of my dumb errors :(

Please try this DLL.
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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #54 on: July 15, 2016, 09:13:12 am »

Hello Yaobing.
tested the latest Version.
Better but still not working.
He now says starting TV in the caption.
In the onscreen Display he Displays the channel Name and "Waiting for lock"
After a while he says "no Signal".

I have atached the log

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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #55 on: July 15, 2016, 03:13:45 pm »

We are making progress.  A couple of more bugs have been caught.

Please try again.
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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #56 on: July 15, 2016, 04:06:49 pm »

Hello Yaobing,
same behaviour.

Here the log.

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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #57 on: July 16, 2016, 09:49:47 am »

Please try this one.
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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #58 on: July 17, 2016, 04:29:43 am »

Hello Yaobing,
same behaviour.
Here is the log.

One question from my side.
Do you have a SAT>IP Server on your side?
And is it working with your one?

If you don't have SAT>IP Server please check this site:

http://www.dvbviewer.com/de/index.php

They have a package dvbviewer and record Service.
The recording Service has a SAT>IP Server so you could test without having a SAT>IP Hardware.

If you have a new Version please let me know I will test it.

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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #59 on: July 18, 2016, 02:02:31 pm »

Hi Markus,

First of all, thank you for doing the tests.

I do not have a SAT>IP device.  That is why I have to rely on users like you to do the testing.

Regarding DVBViewer, does it also work with North America digital TV (ATSC)?  SAT>IP specification only mentions DVBS, DVBT and DVBC.  So I am not sure if DVBViewer will help in this situation (of me not being in a DVB country).

I noticed that there is an error in the channel that you manually created.  The frequency value needs to be entered in KHz, not in MHz.  The value 11494 appears to be the frequency in MHz.  Please re-enter the value as 11494000 or 11493750 and test again.  In the mean time I am trying to fix some small things in the program.  I will post it when I finish.


Yaobing

EDIT: I uploaded a new DLL.
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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #60 on: July 19, 2016, 04:39:25 am »

Hello Yaobing,
I test it in the evening.
You are right the frequency was wrong.

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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #61 on: July 19, 2016, 02:35:30 pm »

Hello Yaobing,
added the new dll and changed the frequency.
But still same behaviour.

Here is the log.

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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #62 on: July 20, 2016, 10:11:11 am »

This is getting trickier now.  There are no more "obvious bugs".  That means I have to do some trial and error type of tests.

Here are two new versions of the DLL.  Please test them one at a time.

Version 1

Version 2


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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #63 on: July 22, 2016, 03:56:41 pm »

Hello Yaobing,
tested both Versions, but still not working.
JRiver starts now and Shows Live in the caption but time is not running and onscreen menu Shows No Signal.
I have attached 3 logs.
The naming means:
DvBviwer=> I used as a tuner in JRiver the Sat>Ip Server from DVbviwer which uses the OctopusNet Sat>IP HW
OctoputsNet => I used as a tuner in JRiver directly the OctopusNet Sat>Ip Server HW

V1 => V1 of your DLL
v2 => V2 of your DLL

I also attached the channel Settings I have done in JRiver and the channel info I see in DVBViwer.
Perhaps I did some wrong Settings.

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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #64 on: July 26, 2016, 04:32:06 am »

Hello Yaobing,
any new ideas?
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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #65 on: July 26, 2016, 09:10:55 am »

Hello Yaobing,
any new ideas?

I will have to dig deeper to figure out.  Here is what I found so far:

The device with IP address 192.168.0.5 (octonet) always responded with "404 Not Found" error.  It does not like the URL sent by MC, or the way a channel is specified.

The DVBViewer device (192.168.0.4) behaves better.  My second DLL behaved better than the first, so I will concentrate on its method.
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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #66 on: July 26, 2016, 12:48:19 pm »

Hello Yaobing,
Do you know how I can log the url which the dvbviewer client is sending to the sat>ip server?
So you could see where is the difference (problem ) with the url

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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #67 on: July 26, 2016, 03:17:06 pm »

Hello Yaobing,
Do you know how I can log the url which the dvbviewer client is sending to the sat>ip server?
So you could see where is the difference (problem ) with the url

Regards Markus

You can use one of those "packet sniffers". Fiddler and Wireshark are two examples.
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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #68 on: July 27, 2016, 03:23:36 pm »

Hello Yaobing,
what pattern do I have to look for?
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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #69 on: July 27, 2016, 06:02:40 pm »

It is probably a good idea using a filter that logs only traffic to and from the device's IP address.  Then look for messages which have URL beginning with "rtsp://".
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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #70 on: July 28, 2016, 03:15:56 pm »

Markus,

I hope you will be able to get some info using the sniffing tool.  In the mean time, I build another DLL which contains a small change I hope will have some good effect.

Here it is.
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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #71 on: July 29, 2016, 07:19:31 am »

After all the work/time your spending on fixing this problem. I sure hope there is more than "one person" out there using this card.  ;D
Good luck.
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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #72 on: July 30, 2016, 02:03:06 am »

Hello CountryBumkin,
it's not only about this card. It's about SAT>IP.
This is the next big thing here in Europe regarding satelite TV.

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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #73 on: August 01, 2016, 09:16:47 pm »

I am sorry, I should not have suggested Fiddler as a tool for getting info on SatIP traffic.  Fiddler turns out to work only (?) for HTTP/HTTPS, but we need to capture RTSP traffic.  Please try using WireShark.
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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #74 on: August 02, 2016, 09:05:44 am »

I did some playing with Wireshark.  Here are a few simple steps one can take to filter packets for a particular device:

1. Start Wireshark.

2. On menu bar, click Capture > Capture Filters...

3. At the lower left corner of the "Wireshark - Capture Filters" dialog, click the "+" button, to add a new filter.

4. A new filter is added at the bottom of the list, named "New capture filter".  Type "host 192.168.xxx.xxx" (where xxx.xxx should match your network device's IP address), in the "Filter" column.  You can rename the filter by double-clicking the filter name (for example name it "SatIP only").  Click OK to exit the dialog.

5. Capture menu again.  Select "Options...".  On the resulting dialog (Input tab), select the network on which the network traffic for the SatIP device is expected (you may or may not have multiple network to choose from, but you should have at least one :).

6. Select a capture filter.  This is done by clicking the green icon next to the text "Capture filter for selected interfaces", and choose "SatIP only: host 192.168.....
 from the pop up list.  Click "Start" on the Options dialog to exit the dialog and start capturing.  Wireshark now captures all traffic to and from your SatIP device.

7. Start your SatIP client program (DVBView), and play a SatIP channel.  As soon as the channel starts to play normally (you see video), stop playing, and stop capturing on Wireshark by clicking the red square button.

8. Save the captured data in a file by clicking File > Save.

I hope I did not miss anything.  You can email me the saved file.  yaobing at jriver dot com


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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #75 on: August 02, 2016, 03:15:15 pm »

Hello Yaobing,
I send you a mail with the capuring results.
If somebody else will try.
You have to start Wireshark with Administrator privileges to see "interfaces"

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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #76 on: August 02, 2016, 05:42:06 pm »

Thanks Markus.

I will have to make some changes.  

There are some things I do not understand.  Part of the request URL is not in Sat>IP specification:

&tnr=1,11494,22000,9750,0,0,3,2,5102,5101,5100,10301,134,0,24,0,1019,1,-1,192&prio=50

I did a search on the internet, and found that this seems to be related to scrambled channels.

Is this channel a free view channel?
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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #77 on: August 02, 2016, 11:10:54 pm »

Hello Yaobing,
this channel is free.
"Das Erste HD" first german tv channel.

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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #78 on: August 06, 2016, 08:57:20 pm »

Thanks Markus.

I will have to make some changes.  

There are some things I do not understand.  Part of the request URL is not in Sat>IP specification:

&tnr=1,11494,22000,9750,0,0,3,2,5102,5101,5100,10301,134,0,24,0,1019,1,-1,192&prio=50

I did a search on the internet, and found that this seems to be related to scrambled channels.

Is this channel a free view channel?

Hi,

The "&tnr=....." part is a for communication (free and scrambled channels) between Recordingservice (Sat>IP Server by DVBViewer team) and DVBViewer (as Sat>IP client) only. It is related to scrambled channels but its not needed for your sat>ip implementation until you want to include some kind of special treatment for the Recordingservice as Sat>IP Server.

By the way digital devices octopus net has its own CI/CAM support for scrambled channels as well. They use another proprietary URL extension (like "&tnr...." in DVBViewer  ) for their CI/CAM system.
This is needed because Sat>IP specification says nothing about how to handle scrambled channels.
For details about their System you should contact team digital devices.

If you are willing to support the "&tnr..." part I could give you further informations how it works.  ;)

Anyway for basic Sat>IP support both extensions are not needed. Recordingservice, octopus net or any other Sat>IP Server are working just fine without it for free channels (or descrambling by client).
Just follow the Sat>IP specifications, no reverse engineering is needed.

I hope it helps a little bit. Sat>IP support in jriver would be great.  8)
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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #79 on: August 12, 2016, 09:54:44 am »

Hello Yaobing,
anything new?
Did you contact Nuts, who kows the secrets of dvbviewer server ( rec service) and octopus net server.
I think at the end we need some sort of handling for scrambled channels (preferable the dvbviewer method).
Because a lot of channels here in Germany (Europe) are scrambled.

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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #80 on: August 12, 2016, 10:12:59 am »

Please test again when MC22 build 17 or newer is released to the public.
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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #81 on: August 12, 2016, 11:53:48 am »

I will check
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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #82 on: August 16, 2016, 08:02:17 am »

MC22 build 18 is out.
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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #83 on: September 06, 2016, 07:06:56 am »

how's the progress on this?
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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #84 on: September 06, 2016, 09:33:29 am »

Hello Yaobing,
still not working with  MC22 V21.
Here is the log.

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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #85 on: September 12, 2016, 06:19:58 pm »

Hello Yaobing,
still not working with  MC22 V21.
Here is the log.

I could not get much useful info from the log file because you reset the log without trying to play a new channel.  As a result, when you played a channel after the reset, MC just skips regular code and says its the same channel.

Please try again, by restarting MC and then going straight to playing a channel.
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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #86 on: October 24, 2016, 01:05:52 am »

Hi there. Any news?
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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #87 on: October 26, 2016, 07:53:42 am »

Sorry, no news.
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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #88 on: November 16, 2016, 01:05:33 am »

Hi there. Any news? Are there any plans on when SAT-IP should be supported?
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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #89 on: November 16, 2016, 02:41:04 pm »

Sorry, still no news.  I have been busy with other stuff and put this one down temporarily.  I hope to pick up again soon.
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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #90 on: January 07, 2017, 10:24:11 am »

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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #91 on: March 10, 2017, 04:32:03 am »

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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #92 on: March 10, 2017, 09:42:37 am »

Can someone using the latest version of MC22 try playing a (manually added) channel and send me a log package again?  Please turn logging verbosity to 2 and restart MC before trying to play.  Don't forget to turn logging verbosity back to 0 after the log is captured.
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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #93 on: March 12, 2017, 05:14:24 am »

I can do it but where do I set the verbosity?
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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #94 on: March 12, 2017, 05:15:20 am »

In the Options, Television -> Advanced (way at the bottom of the page)
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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #95 on: March 12, 2017, 05:48:46 am »

OK, thanks. There was also an option to enable logging somewhere also, right? EDIT: found it. Attached log, however I do not see the OctopusNet in the devices list (they were available some time ago in an earlier version of MC if I remeber correctly).
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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #96 on: March 12, 2017, 06:03:11 am »

I see both tuners in television options -> manage devices but no tuner when i go to television options -> setup
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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #97 on: March 12, 2017, 06:09:24 am »

I managed to somehow click through the setup and it seems like a tuner is available. I manually added a channel according to the settings in a screenshot on the last page and started to play this channel. It seems, that no signal can be found.
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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #98 on: March 15, 2017, 09:43:29 am »

Thanks for the logs.

I found one bug by reading the last log.  Not sure if this bug is the main culprit, I made a new DLL for you to test.

Please first install the latest build (.81) from MC22 board.  Then download, unzip, and copy the DLL into MC installation folder.
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Re: Does JRiver support "digital devices" octopus
« Reply #99 on: March 15, 2017, 10:58:33 am »

Attached you'll find the log after trying to play the channel with the DLL included in installation folder. Now MC says "something went wrong with playback" after a few seconds when trying to open up the stream. What I also noted now: since adding the channel last time i get a continous popup of "mx2xml" and "mc2xml lineup" selections. They come up every few seconds regardless of my selections.
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