Topic: How does the new license policy protect MJ users if JRiver goes away? (Read 3129 times)

Bob L. · « **on:** May 07, 2002, 02:03:42 pm »

Pardon me if I'm feeling a little vulnerable with the new restore poplicy, but what is being done to protect JRiver users if JRiver disappears? Are you putting a version of version 8 in escrow that will be posted and freely available if access to JRiver or restores is unavailable? Any other options or ideas?

Bob L.

zevele1 · « **Reply #1 on:** May 07, 2002, 02:46:04 pm »

I have to tell you a secret.Everything is ready here to receive JimH and all his staff.
When?As soon that 8 sells well,they will just close and leave the country with all the money

And,keep cool, they will start a new company selling at cheap price a software who will run the closed JRiver jukebox.

NY40Male · « **Reply #2 on:** May 07, 2002, 02:47:02 pm »

I KNEW IT

JimH · « **Reply #3 on:** May 07, 2002, 03:32:13 pm »

I'm thinking Israel sounds good. I can paint. Beauty shop ceilings? No problem. My friends call me Michel Angel. What's the dress code?

KingSparta · « **Reply #4 on:** May 07, 2002, 03:42:19 pm »

>> I'm thinking Israel sounds good.
I don't think the roads are as good

zevele1 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 07, 2002, 03:56:10 pm »

Casual for top social events.Very very laidback everyday.Let say that a laidback casual of good taste is TOP
No need to shave everyday.AND 6 MONTHS WHITOUT SHOCKS
Sell MJ8 until october,summer not really pleasant in the coastal plain.
What you can do is to put the staff in Haifa; and you to live in Tel-Aviv
Because we say here:
in Jerusalem people pray
in Haifa people work
in Tel-Aviv people have fun
Keep the surf on MJ icone,you may use it here-at a small level,not big waves in this part of the world-

zevele1 · « **Reply #6 on:** May 07, 2002, 04:05:02 pm »

King
Roads are not bad,but the main problem is that there is cars on it.If one day you drive few hours here,you will understand how we can deal with all the bombs.It is nothing if you compare with the israeli drivers.
As they write in the travel book Lonely Planet about Israel:the road signalisation signs seems to be put to make decoration.No one take care of them
Something to do with the air in this part of the world,cause in Jordan,Egypt,Turkey and Greece it is even worst than here

sekim · « **Reply #7 on:** May 07, 2002, 04:22:07 pm »

Just to punt this back towards the original topic... Forget MJ, what about Interact??? I can always use the real stereo if you guys give up the ghost, but Interact. Where do you find a bunch like this??

JimH · « **Reply #8 on:** May 07, 2002, 04:51:42 pm »

I'm reminded of the original M.A.S.H. when the dentist decides he isn't a man and wants to die. They give him the last supper and then something else happens, can't quite remember....what was her name?

sekim · « **Reply #9 on:** May 07, 2002, 04:55:38 pm »

Able???

KingSparta · « **Reply #10 on:** May 07, 2002, 04:55:58 pm »

don't rememeber the movie that well, many moons ago when I watched it

what was the name of the theme song was it "suicide is good" or something like that and they had to take the title off the show credits due to popular demand at the time.

Bob L. · « **Reply #11 on:** May 07, 2002, 04:57:30 pm »

The lack of any real response to my question speaks volumes.

Bob L.

lise · « **Reply #12 on:** May 07, 2002, 05:02:34 pm »

Hi BobL,

I think the reason no one has really addressed your question is that it isn't really a worry. J River has been in business for over 20 years now, and I'm sure they will be around for 20 more. But, if, by some miserable circumstance, they were to stop doing business, I'm sure that JimH would cook something up so that we could have unlimited access to our licenses.

KingSparta · « **Reply #13 on:** May 07, 2002, 05:04:04 pm »

>> The lack of any real response to my question speaks volumes.
did you really want an answer?

i am wondering how a company can get around the pirating issue if a perm license was issued.

can you think of one maybe with your ideas maybe in future versions could address your conserns if it could limit pirating of the software.

KingSparta · « **Reply #14 on:** May 07, 2002, 05:05:07 pm »

Lise

>> and I'm sure they will be around for 20 more.
JimH is getting pritty old

JimH · « **Reply #15 on:** May 07, 2002, 05:08:05 pm »

Suicide is Painless

LCtheDJ · « **Reply #16 on:** May 07, 2002, 05:10:10 pm »

The theme to M.A.S.H. was "Suicide is Painless".

When JimH retires from software, he may go into politics. See how well he does the side-step?

JimH · « **Reply #17 on:** May 07, 2002, 05:12:44 pm »

Bob,
Sorry to have fun when you have a serious question, but imagine your friends saying "Bob, uh, you feeling OK? Say, what are you going to do with that convertible when you pass on? Could you loan me the keys?".

Gives me the shivers to think about.

Jim

KingSparta · « **Reply #18 on:** May 07, 2002, 05:13:44 pm »

"Suicide is Painless"

yep i have it

Now Playing: Bill Evans - M A S H (Suicide Is Painless).mp3

KingSparta · « **Reply #19 on:** May 07, 2002, 05:15:38 pm »

JimH

Do you have a Horse?

Bob L. · « **Reply #20 on:** May 07, 2002, 05:18:08 pm »

Hello everyone,

It's good to hear about JRiver's stability. It also shows in what a good product they've created. I am a fan of MJ and wish JimH and the crew only the best. It's just that the investment in the program is far greater than the purchase price when you count in the hours of ripping/encoding/organising etc. that one can put in. I hope they're around for another twenty years. However, the world of software and digital audio is prone to constant upheaval. There's no guarantee anyone will be around next year. I wouldn't have expected Siren from Sonic Foundry to be in the trash heap right now. The new license policy could leave everyone who paid for a version 8 license (like me) and into the future in a lurch overnight if they need a restore and JRiver is not around. I hope Lise is right that JRiver would give us a permanent key prior to something like that happening. It would ease some people's minds if they went on record to that affect.

These are serious issues to many people and I don't think it helps to mock their concerns.

Regards,

Bob L.

rachel · « **Reply #21 on:** May 07, 2002, 05:32:10 pm »

>The new license policy could leave everyone who paid for a version 8 license (like me) and into the future in a lurch overnight if they need a restore and JRiver is not around

I don't think JimH needs to fear suicide.
He only need to worry if he ever comes back again alive.

JimH · « **Reply #22 on:** May 07, 2002, 05:35:21 pm »

Bob,
It isn't mocking.

Your original comment was, though understandable, a little bit of an insult.

I'm hoping our customers will be around next year.

Jim

Bob L. · « **Reply #23 on:** May 07, 2002, 05:41:53 pm »

Jim,

No insult or disrespect intended. As I said, I hope JRiver is around a long time. The ongoing availability of license restores is a concern that reflects the impermenance of our times. I hope it never becomes an issue for any of us.

Regards,

Bob L.

JimH · « **Reply #24 on:** May 07, 2002, 06:01:08 pm »

Thanks. I don't think it will.

Jaundiced Eye · « **Reply #25 on:** May 07, 2002, 06:18:10 pm »

Will a license to 8.x work for 9.x?

JimH · « **Reply #26 on:** May 07, 2002, 06:35:19 pm »

JaundicedEye,
No idea what comes next. Sorry.

Jim

tullio · « **Reply #27 on:** May 07, 2002, 06:54:37 pm »

Captain Walter Waldoski. the Painless Pole (Painless for short), known as the best equipped dentist in the Army, was cured of his temporary impotence and suicidal impulses by Lieutenant Maria Schnieder ("Lt Dish" for short). Lt Dish was played by JoAnn Pflug. Can't remember who played Painless,

"I like to watch." Chauncey Gardner, Being There (Jerzy Kosinski)

peter · « **Reply #28 on:** May 07, 2002, 07:13:02 pm »

http://www.joannpflug.com/bio.html

zevele1 · « **Reply #29 on:** May 08, 2002, 09:59:12 am »

Bob L.
I was the one who started to make fun of you

I did it in reaction to the kind of people i to much know;the one buying something cheap and asking questions as if they buy a million $ pent-house and having pretention as stupid as they are
so they will start to mess around for a $25 software,but shut they mouth for the hundred forced $ they put on Windows 95 then 98 and 98se and on x
There is 2 things i did not realise,the sonic Foundry case and,first of all,as you say the long hours spending on Mj if you built a large collection

Now i understand better your post

Anyway if JRiver goes down,he will go down.If there is a way to use the jukebox after it,good.
If not,bad.Nothing to be sleepless for the time being

KingSparta · « **Reply #30 on:** May 08, 2002, 10:08:57 am »

>> He only need to worry if he ever comes back again alive
like that new movie, whats it called "Jason In space", Friday the 13th part 32 (the night when the moon was full)

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