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drc

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MC 17 no longer updates / refreshes certain tags! [Solved]
« on: April 17, 2012, 10:21:48 pm »

I've notice within the last week, MC is not updating changes I've made in the Notes field.

Meaning it will allow you to write to the field, but it will not allow you to leave it blank once you've written to the field.  

Brain teaser, I've been at it over the weekend... no success - uninstalled/reinstalled MC and built new libraries.

A few facts:

1.  I use the Note field to keep a list of tracks needed to complete an album.
2.  Until last week, basically you could make changes in MC (Notes) or 3rd  
     Party Tag Editor and see the change instantly.
3.  I just noticed it was not updating after installing v.125
4.  Tried to go back to previous version nothing makes a difference no.

Again, the problem is the notes field will not allow me to leave it blank.  it will allow me to change the text to whatever, but it won't allow me to leave it blank.

Any ideas.
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Re: MC 17 no longer updates / refreshes certain tags!
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2012, 08:59:58 am »

Are you saying you can't blank it in the library or in the tag?

What type of files are you using if it's in the tag?

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Re: MC 17 no longer updates / refreshes certain tags!
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2012, 12:27:12 pm »

Are you saying you can't blank it in the library or in the tag?

What type of files are you using if it's in the tag?

Thanks.

Yes.  I can't blank it in the library.  Once populated in MC-17 it will not go back to blank. 

MP3's.

Here's the Tag as viewed by Mediainfo: ( notice there is no Note tag, which means it's empty but MC still has the old information.)


Complete name :Grover Washington, Jr\Baddest\02 - Mister Magic.mp3
Format : MPEG Audio
File size : 12.8 MiB
Duration : 9mn 4s
Overall bit rate mode : Constant
Overall bit rate : 192 Kbps
Album : Baddest
Album/Performer : Grover Washington, Jr.
Track name : Mister Magic
Track name/Position : 2
Performer : Grover Washington, Jr.
Performer/Sorted by : Washington, Grover, Jr.
Composer : Written By: Ralph MacDonald/William Salter
Lyricist : Grover Washington, Jr. — Soprano Saxophone, Tenor Saxophone, Producer & Writer.
Publisher : Motown
Genre : Jazz
Recorded date : 1980
Writing library : LAME3.98r
BPM : 101
Copyright : Vinyl
Cover : Yes
Cover description : Picture
Cover type : Cover (front)
Cover MIME : image/jpeg
Comment : M9-940A2
Album Artist : Grover Washington, Jr.
Catalog # : M9-940a2
Intensity : 1
Tool Name : Media Center
Tool Version : 17.0.103
track temp : A2
discogs_mediatype : 2 X Vinyl, Lp, Album
country : Us
yes : 1980-00-005.00
discogs_release_id : 561632
CREDITS : Arranged By: Bob James (Tracks: A1, A2, B1, C2, D1, D2) / Producer: Creed Taylor (Tracks: A1, A2, B1, B3, C1, C2, D1, D2), Grover Washington, Jr. (Tracks: B2)
PERFORMERS : Grover Washington, Jr.
URL : http://Http://Www.Discogs.Com/Release/561632

Audio
Format : MPEG Audio
Format version : Version 1
Format profile : Layer 3
Duration : 9mn 5s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Replay gain : -0.31 dB
Replay gain peak : 1.000000
Stream size : 12.5 MiB (97%)
Writing library : LAME3.98r
Encoding settings : -m s -V 4 -q 3 -lowpass 18.6 -b 192
MP3Gain, Min/Max : 032,210

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Re: MC 17 no longer updates / refreshes certain tags!
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2012, 12:49:49 pm »

here's something else which may narrow down the issue...  If I go into MC 17 and write something in the notes field it will take it, but you can't see it outside of MC, it's not in the tag.

In short you can import into MC, but you can't export the tag from MC.  Is it possible, I've checked something in MC which says not to export/update tag.
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Re: MC 17 no longer updates / refreshes certain tags!
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2012, 01:04:57 pm »

I can't blank it in the library.  Once populated in MC-17 it will not go back to blank.

To make sure I understand, you pick one file, edit the 'Notes' field in a details list by pressing F2, and when you click away it discards what you typed?
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Re: MC 17 no longer updates / refreshes certain tags!
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2012, 11:28:14 pm »

I'm attaching a few jpgs of the procedures...  Hopefully it will make it clearer.  Currently my library is out of sync...
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Re: MC 17 no longer updates / refreshes certain tags!
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2012, 01:11:38 am »

I don't think importing empty tags has ever resulted in deleting the contents of associated fields. In general, that would be dangerous and unwanted behaviour. If you want to remove a note by importing file tags, you would have to put some value in the tag to overwrite the MC field (e.g., '-', '.', 'n/a', 'none'). But surely it would be easier to set the MC field to Save in file tags, and then just delete the value in MC. MC will then blank the file tag.
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Re: MC 17 no longer updates / refreshes certain tags!
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2012, 07:11:27 am »

Rick is exactly right.

I also agree with his recommendation to use Media Center for tagging.
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Re: MC 17 no longer updates / refreshes certain tags! [Solved]
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2012, 06:12:36 pm »

Got It...  I've simplified the matter... if it needs to stay populated, i'll just type in Complete.

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