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[JimH]

We're within a week or two of feeling like we have something to show for all the work we've done.  We're at build 32 right now.  I'm guessing that you'll see something posted on this board by around build 40.

The first few builds will work with an MC17 license, so you could install it and try it if you have one.

The set of new features will be a little thin to begin with.  I'll post the changelog below so you can see.

Stability is our biggest push right now.  The work to free MC of all the Windows dependencies created a lot of new work for developer -  bugs.  Simple everyday things like list controls were rewritten from scratch, so there were a number of problems to fix.

It's currently usable and we've had no problems with data, so if you're curious and patient, you could go ahead and install it.  If you prefer a more trouble free life, you might wait a month.

As always, we appreciate your ideas and feedback as well as the bug reports.

Jim

[JimH]

18.0.32 (8/21/2012)

1. Changed: The expression language has better support for integer values larger than 2 billion.
2. Changed: When displaying a list of Blu-ray titles, duplicate titles (identical streams and duration) are removed.
3. Changed: DSD playback using DoP bitstreaming could fall out of DoP mode between tracks or during buffering.
4. Fixed: Action Window > Convert could use the wrong audio encoder if it wasn't configured before running.
5. Changed: Improved support for SACD ISO files so they can be used by Analyze Audio, Convert Format, etc.
6. Fixed: The 'Details' view for file conversion was not displaying conversion failures properly.
7. Changed: The Clean(...) expression in mode 3 does a standard filename clean and replaces unsupported characters with underscore.
8. Fixed: Possible minor drawing artifact in the alpha channel when performing high-quality downsizing.
9. NEW: To give the CPU a break, the video transcoding engine now pauses when it gets sufficient data buffered ahead of the reader.
10. NEW: Improved how the server system expires previous requests so that it uses fewer resources and better holds the last request if a user pauses and walks away for a while.
11. Changed: Video playback on Android uses adaptive volume DSP added in v18 (medium level).
12. Fixed: MC erroneously warned of recording conflicts when scheduling television recordings on a client machine that has no suitable tuner.
13. Fixed: Closing the search editing dialog could cause the z-order of the main program to shuffle.
14. Changed: More tweaking of http partial content.

18.0.31 (8/20/2012)

1. Changed: HTTP services, handle byte range requests on content of indeterminate length.
2. Updated: Chinese language file (thanks kelijun).
3. Fixed: Keyboard navigation was not working properly inside list and tree controls.
4. Fixed: The 'Damaged Layers' visualization had the word 'TEST' in it.
5. Fixed: Visualization Studio lists were not appearing.
6. Changed: Switched Play Doctor to use edit box artwork instead of search box artwork so that it works better across all skins.
7. Fixed: Ctrl+F could just to the Library View but then lose the focus in the search box right away.
8. Fixed: Creation of player cores (zones) in the background during program load could steal the keyboard focus during the first few seconds of the program's run.
9. Faster: The core user interface manager no longer hides / shows all windows during a view load or refresh (should make the program faster, and the show / hide is unnecessary with v18's new UI framework).
10. NEW: Added new DSP 'Bitdepth Simulator' to DSP Studio > Parametric Equalizer to allow testing what different bitdepths sound like.
11. Fixed: Cleanup of various http server headers.
12. Changed: Added flush of video frames at the end of transcoded video.
13. Fixed: Crashes in avcodec transcoding.
14. Changed: Theater View internet backdrops are no longer cropped, but instead drawn with the edges extended by a color matching the edge color.

18.0.30 (8/17/2012)

1. NEW: Play Doctor is available from Gizmo (requires updated Gizmo; to use search for a value and then pick 'Play (with Play Doctor)').
2. NEW: Play Doctor and search suggestions handle searching for track names better (doesn't pool all tracks with the same name together, shows 'Home (Track by Chris Daughtery)' instead of 'Home (name)', etc.).
3. SDK: Any SDK function that returns files accepts a parameter PlayDoctor=1 to get a Play Doctor playlist, start Play Doctor playback, etc.
4. Changed: CD Burn Transcode Options dialog.
5. Changed: Updated Car Radio artwork.
6. Fixed: Splitter bars were not drawing correctly on skins that didn't explicitly provide splitter artwork.

18.0.29 (8/16/2012)

1. Changed: Car Radio always shows 12 buttons.
2. Changed: Videos with their media sub type set to 'Music Video' can use internet cover art lookup.
3. Fixed: Image rotation could fail when the EXIF tag contained a non-zero rotation.
4. Fixed: The 'Edit Disc Information' dialog was not showing a list.
5. Changed: Audio Path better explains why it's blank when not playing or when playing outside the JRiver audio engine (DLNA, etc.).
6. Changed: Moved the option for stores to show in the tree (Amazon, HDtracks, etc.) to Options > Services.
7. Changed: Moved the option to configure an input plugin to Options > Audio.
8. Fixed: Quick find highlighting of matching words in the list was not working in build 28.

18.0.28 (8/15/2012)

1. NEW: Faster, better looking text drawing ( http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=73800.0 ).
2. Faster: Setting one very large string value to many files could be slow.
3. Faster: Having huge text in a visible field could cause list drawing to become unnecessarily slow.

18.0.27 (8/13/2012)

1. Fixed: The Television view header could flicker in some cases.
2. Fixed: Wait messages would flicker.
3. Changed: More changes to Play Doctor / Car Radio.
4. Changed: Updated German language file (thanks Bytestar).
5. Changed: Updated LAV filters to 0.51.3.
6. Fixed: Mixed-mode CD's were not playable - the error "file could not be opened for read access(error2)" would appear.
7. Fixed: DLNA: Source and Sink protocol info were out of date.
8. Changed: DLNA: Added content directory support for jps files.


18.0.26 (8/10/2012)

1. Changed: Starting Play Doctor playback always starts playing the first file immediately, then goes on building the rest of the playlist in a background thread.
2. Changed: Revised the flow of Play Doctor so that the variety, etc. is always set after picking something to play.
3. Changed: Revised how wait messages are shown so that they should no longer take the keyboard focus (please report any issues).
4. Fixed: Media Network: Transcoding some videos would result in a crash upon finish.

18.0.25 (8/9/2012)

1. Changed: More improvements to loopback playback.
2. Fixed: Drawing text with CJK characters would not wrap as expected in tooltips and other areas of the program.
3. Fixed: Video conversion could crash when finishing or seeking.
4. NEW: Added support for DSD DoP bitstreaming of 2x DSD (128FS).
5. NEW: Play Doctor v2 ( http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=73715 ).

18.0.24 (8/7/2012)

1. Fixed: Clicking 'Save & Exit' in the image editor with a tool open would crash.
2. Fixed: Stopping playback of an image + music playlist could crash.
3. Faster: Image playback starts and switches images much faster (the 3d system no longer forces textures to a power of two to use hardware mipmapping, please report any issues with specific video hardware).
4. Faster: Drawing with no alpha blending is faster (used when filling any 3d buffer with an image, etc.).
5. Fixed: Editing option values that used an expression control (like the image playback caption) would not work.
6. Fixed: Links on thumbnails like 'Play' were not getting underlined on mouse over.
7. Fixed: In some cases a list tooltip could appear after playback of an image or video started.
8. Changed: The TMDb image loading looks for English images first, then unmarked images (often English, but not always), then finally images marked with any language.
9. Fixed: Embedded web browsers could crash.
10. Fixed: Actions that showed a wait message could hang.
11. NEW: Loopback mode adapts the target latency automatically so that it works with effects that create delays like resampling, convolution, Dolby Digital output, etc.
12. Changed: ASIO and WASAPI - Event Style automatically adjust their buffer sizes to a small value when doing live playback to minimize latency.
13. Changed: Improved DLNA video playback to PS3 and others that make several small requests when playing.

18.0.23 (8/6/2012)

1. Changed: When loading an EPG, an auto match between the channel and identifier is performed automatically (a prompt will be shown if any data could be overwritten asking if you want to use the new identifier or keep the existing identifier).
2. Changed: If TheMovieDB lookup doesn't find any English images, but does find images for other languages, it will use the image for the other language instead of no image at all.
3. Fixed: Backspace was not working in edit controls hosted by a plugin (like a DSP, Visualization, etc.).
4. Fixed: Tab navigation was not working in DSP Studio.
5. Fixed: Possible crashes when using user interface in DSP Studio, Audio Path, and possibly others.
6. Changed: DSP Studio > Analyzer drawing is smoother.
7. Fixed: Clicking non-selectable tree items like the root of audio, etc. was not updating the tree selection properly.
8. Changed: Improved m4ts encoding.

18.0.22 (8/3/2012)

1. NEW: TheMovieDB lookup uses API v3 (fixes issues with foreign images, puts community rating into 'Critic Rating' field, etc.).
2. Changed: More internal television threading changes.
3. Fixed: Play Doctor could show a strike-through on files that had not been skipped during the current play session.

18.0.21 (8/2/2012)

1. Fixed: Hiding the tree while the Action Window was showing the playback display would leave the display showing.
2. Fixed: Name changes in Tools > Options > Media Network > Advanced > Customize views for Gizmo & WebGizmo were not sticking.
3. Fixed: Drag-n-drop in a list to reorder could leave the 'new location' line that shows while dragging.
4. Fixed: Clicks on the scrollbar in a list could also click on the list under the scrollbar.
5. Fixed: Pressing Ctrl+F multiple times in a row could cause a crash.
6. Fixed: Tabbing on dialogs was stopping on static text, causing it to take extra tabs to get to the next control in some cases.
7. Fixed: Drawing of VST effects could flicker on sizing.

[JimH]

18.0.20 (8/1/2012)

1. Fixed: The mouse wheel would not work when the cursor was over an auto-complete tooltip in a list.
2. Fixed: Configuring the MP3 encoder could crash.
3. Changed: Removed the drop-shadow the could appear in some cases on dialog text.
4. Fixed: The OSD would not hide properly when entering Theater View.
5. Fixed: Analog television devices failed to start in the last few builds.
6. NEW: Added 'Adaptive Volume' feature for video playback (available in Options > Video).

18.0.19 (7/31/2012)

1. Fixed: Scrolling a list could cause an item to appear to wiggle in some cases.
2. Fixed: Drawing a selection lasso on a list could cause visual artifacts.
3. Fixed: Playback of converted audio files could start slowly on Android 4.0 and newer.
4. NEW: When serving a file that's being converted on-the-fly, an ID3v2 tag with basic tag information will be added to the front.
5. Fixed: Customizing Gizmo views could cause a crash.
6. Fixed: Opening DSP Studio from the 'Audio Path' popup could cause a crash.
7. Fixed: Message routing to Theater View, Image Playback, and some other windows was not working properly.
8. Fixed: Drag-n-drop was not allowing dropping on some targets.
9. Fixed: Pressing enter to 'OK' out of a popup was not working in some places.
10. Faster: Scroll animation in lists is smoother.
11. Faster: Drawing thumbnails in a list will use more threads on a machine with more than 4 cores (including virtual hyper-threading cores).
12. Changed: Videos acquired from cameras now have the media subtype "Home Video" applied to them.
13. NEW: The 'Convert Format' tool runs in the Action Window for both audio and video conversion (still a work in progress).
14. NEW: DLNA: Provide artist and album artist info in the content directory for containers that are audio albums.

18.0.18 (7/27/2012)

1. NEW: Traditional Chinese character support (thanks kelijun.)
2. Fixed: Lip sync was incorrect when streaming MP4 to Android.
3. Fixed: On-the-fly MP4 conversion for Android wasn't stopping when stopping on the Android (so conversion would continue for no reason in the background).
4. Faster: Switched the player window at the top of Standard View to a more efficient redrawing system (please report if there are any issues with stale values).
5. Fixed: Typing in the 'Rename, Move, & Copy Files' did not update the preview nicely.
6. Fixed: Double-clicking on a scrollbar would only move once instead of twice.
7. Fixed: Drag-n-drop reordering in a playlist was not working.
6. Changed: Added 'mts' to default file types for acquiring from cameras and phones.
7. Fixed: Netflix wasn't responding to Ok button on remote and could crash when playback was stopped.
8. Fixed: The red underline for misspelled words in an edit control could draw in the wrong place.
9. Faster: Text drawing the supports transparency (most text in the program) draws faster.
10. Fixed: Views that don't support glass (like a webpage) inside glass-based skins would show the view in the wrong location.
11. Fixed: MP4TS conversion for DLNA and Android had audio sync issues.
12. Changed: Optimize bitrates for MP4TS conversion profiles.
13. Fixed: use lower complexity profile for MP4TS conversions. Allows more devices to play it.

18.0.17 (7/26/2012)

1. Fixed: The menu and clear buttons were not showing in the search box.
2. Fixed: Switching away from Playing Now or other views that had a system window could show a visual artifact.
3. Changed: Updated German language file (thanks Bytestar).
4. Faster: Tabs that aren't active have no overhead when doing a window layout (makes switching views, switching tabs, sizing the window, etc. faster).
5. Fixed: Split views were not shifting focus properly with a mouse click.
6. Changed: When a zone's playback display is attempted to be shown in two places at once, the window not showing it will draw the cover art and text explaining what's happening.
7. Fixed: Icons under Explorer in the tree could drawing in the wrong spot.
8. Changed: Link-style text buttons visually fade between states like regular buttons.
9. Fixed: Tab navigation wasn't working in the main program.
10. Fixed: Tab navigation includes text buttons.
11. Fixed: Tab navigation was not working in the Quick Find toolbar (Ctrl+Q in a list).
12. Changed: Internal stream-lining of television code.

18.0.16 (7/25/2012)

1. Fixed: The install was crashing in build 15.
2. Fixed: Pane tagging was not working.
3. Fixed: Dropping on panes was not working properly.
4. Fixed: The Action Window > Tag > Image window was not showing a tooltip.
5. Fixed: Some MKV videos that contain MPEG1 video stream did not play over the network.
6. Fixed: The image preview / image editor views were not drawing properly.
7. Faster: Improved performance of user interface rendering of the main program in Standard View.
8. Fixed: Lists could flicker when drawing in some cases.

18.0.15 (7/24/2012)

1. Updated: Chinese language file (thanks to kelijun).
2. Changed: Internal work to how user interface is handled (removed old virtual window system, improved performance of core window descriptor, etc.).
3. Changed: DLNA content directory flags made more accurate. Also the DLNA flags try to better describe streaming URLS in a content directory playlist.
4. Changed: MP4TS streaming conversion makes less complex files to enable them to work on more devices. Still needs sync work.

18.0.14 (7/23/2012)

1. Fixed: The uninstaller was crashing.
2. Fixed: In-place editing could crash in some cases.
3. Changed: Internal television threading changes.
4. Fixed: Rating stars were not working in the player or Tag Action Window.
5. NEW: Gizmo playback on Android uses MP4 H.264 for streaming (and no longer uses Flash).

18.0.13 (7/20/2012)

1. Fixed: In-place editing could crash.
2. Fixed: Backspace and some other special keys were not being handled properly in edit controls.
3. Fixed: While an options list was showing a menu, moving the mouse over the list would cause it to disappear.
4. Fixed: Media Network server configuration was not drawing properly.
5. Internal: Work on Tag Action Window to use newer user interface fundamentals (still a work in progress).

18.0.12 (7/19/2012)

1. Fixed: The 'File Associations' list in the installer was not showing.
2. Fixed: Scrollbars in edit controls were not working properly.
3. Fixed: The caret for an edit control could appear outside of the edit control.
4. Fixed: Clicking on a list tooltip was not passing the clicks through to the list.
5. Fixed: The configuration dialog for files types in Auto-Import was blank.
6. Fixed: In-place edit navigation was not working in lists.
7. Fixed: Configuration in Options > Theater View > Items to Show was not working nicely.
8. Fixed: Link columns were not working properly.
9. Fixed: A couple bugs in the Tag Action Window.
10. Changed: Revamped the 'Customize Toolbar' dialog.
11. Changed: Added a 'Don't show this message again' checkbox at the end of a Pix01 upload.
12. Fixed: The mouse controls (player) would flicker when drawing in Display View.
13. Fixed: Opening a FLAC file to read tags could unexpectedly cause a padding block to be added to the tag with some files.
14. NEW: Auto-Import adds the option 'Write file tags when analyzing audio, getting cover art, and applying folder-based tags' (off by default, so a fresh install should never do any tagging).
15. Changed: The auto-import setting to ignore previously imported files is no longer a per-folder setting.
16. Fixed: Watching live television on a client using server tuner did not work if the server did something else with the tuner (such as watching or recording the same channel).
17. Internal: Switched the player bar at the top of the program from a system window to a virtual window (please report any issues).

18.0.11 (7/18/2012)

1. Fixed: DLNA wasn't supplying dimensions for converted videos in the content directory.
2. Fixed: Lists and trees were not appearing on many dialogs (please report dialogs that still have problems).
3. Fixed: Comboboxes could crash.
4. Fixed: Tooltips were not appearing in lists and trees.
5. Fixed: Text could draw outside a list in some cases.
6. Changed: Scrollbars are now virtual windows instead of system windows in lists and trees.
7. Fixed: Adding cover art to Flac files could cause a crash.
8. Changed: MC will display a warning pop up on low-disk-space condition when starting television playback, and let user choose a course of action.

18.0.10 (7/17/2012)

1. Fixed: High CPU usage on server when a client played live television using a tuner on the server.
2. Fixed: Television time-shifting files were not being deleted from the server after the client finished playing live television using a tuner on the  server.
3. Changed: Updated LAV filters to 0.51.2.  Several bug fixes and enhancements since .50.5.
4. Faster: Core string formatting system used by all code runs about twice as fast.
5. Internal: More work on user interface fundamentals.
6. Fixed: iTunes tagged ID3v2 tags with PNG embedded images could fail to load the image.
7. Fixed: Pressing stop in Netflix caused a crash.

18.0.9 (7/13/2012)

1. Fixed: Several UI issues reported with 18.0.8.
2. Changed: Improved how clients select television local and server tuners for live playback.

18.0.8 (7/12/2012)

1. Fixed: Several little UI fixes with regards to tabbing, alignment, sizing, etc. in the Smartlist Editor and Action Window.
2. Internal: Revised how most edit and combobox controls are built.
3. Fixed: jtv files did not play on clients in the last couple of builds.
4. Fixed: Seeking did not work when playing live television on clients using a tuner on the server.
5. Fixed: Netflix search function was not working.

18.0.7 (7/11/2012)

1. Fixed: WebGizmo playback was not working in some cases.
2. Changed: The Rerun field was showing as a user field instead of a stock field.
3. Internal: Updated the Smartlist / Search Wizard user interface so that it uses more modern user interface building blocks (testing appreciated).
4. Fixed: Burning an audio CD from WMA format files was not working.
5. Fixed: Seeking could cause a sidecar subtitle to appear twice if the subtitle was set to show for the entire video.
6. Fixed: In some cases, the first subtitle in a video would not appear.
7. Changed: Updated German language file (thanks Bytestar).
8. NEW: Pearl Bailey and Black on Black skins are included with the build.

[JimH]

18.0.6 (7/10/2012)

1. Changed: DSP Studio > Output Format uses tooltips to show more information instead of putting all the text on the dialog page.
2. Fixed: Splitter handles were not drawing in the center of the splitter in some cases.
3. Fixed: The import dialog could crash.
4. Changed: Read-only system edit controls use the same coloring as a regular edit control (which matches how the more common non-system read-only edit controls look).
5. Fixed: The text in the playerbar was not drawing with transparency support, causing trouble for glass-based skins.
6. Changed: The skin item size of the basic button (Frame > Button) is no longer considered when sizing buttons (other skins like Black on Black that use a large button image cause troubles).
7. Changed: MCC_KEYSTROKE will give Media Center the focus before generating a keystroke (please let us know if this causes any issues).
8. Fixed: DLNA: when seeking (time based) into a video, the previous transcode and file were not being cleaned up in some cases (anything MPEG2 and PAL, WMV).
9. Changed: DLNA: add dimensions of a video file in the content directory.
10. Changed: Updated the html5 player script.
11. NEW: Live television playback from Media Server using television tuners on the server.

18.0.5 (7/9/2012)

1. Fixed: A few dialogs had a black background instead of dialog background colors.
2. Fixed: Action Window pages did not have their header text properly centered.
3. Fixed: The view header auto-show menu would appear when the mouse passed over the view header text, even if the mouse had since left the show region.
4. Fixed: The library field editor was emptying expressions in some cases.
5. Fixed: The popup expression editor was not drawing properly.
6. Fixed: The optional library navigation alphabet was not showing properly.
7. Changed: Disabling television recording will no longer disable automatic EPG updating.
8. Fixed: Using FormatDate(...) in the player bar could cause problems.
9. Fixed: When starting an image slideshow out of Theater View, the caption would not appear for the first image.
10. Changed: Updated all translation files to include the latest strings from the source code.

18.0.4 (7/6/2012)

1. Fixed: An M4A with corrupt frames would be unnecessarily slow to work through the bad frames.
2. Fixed: The enter key was not working properly on some dialogs to execute the selected button.
3. Fixed: Closing a dialog could lead to a crash.
4. Fixed: The field list in the Manage Library Fields dialog was not working properly.
5. Changed: Starting v18 stops any running copies of v17, and clears the setting to run a v17 server on boot.
6. Fixed: Splitter arrows were not working.
7. Internal: More restructuring of the internals of the user interface (borders, eventing, dialog layout, list column headers, etc.).

18.0.3 (7/5/2012)

1. Fixed: The base path entry box on 'Rename, Move, & Copy Files' was not working properly.
2. Changed: Updated the splash screen for v18.
3. Fixed: Some controls were missing from Options > Theater View and DLNA / Gizmo view customization.
4. Fixed: The 'Cover View' button was not working properly.
5. Fixed: Right-clicking the thumbnail size slider would toggle full page thumbnails but then incorrectly show the right-click header menu.
6. Fixed: The tabs on the appearance page of the installer were not working properly.
7. Internal: More restructuring of the internals of the user interface (tabs, toolbars, eventing, etc.).

18.0.2 (7/3/2012)

1. NEW: Playback of video with a DLNA device that supports time-based seeking (Sony televisions, PS3, maybe others) works great.  Removes need for conversion cache, lets playback start instantly, allows bookmarking, etc.
2. Fixed: DVD dimensions were not importing.
3. Internal: Major restructuring of the internals of the user interface.  Please report issues with drawing, sizing, mouse handling, keyboard navigation, etc.

18.0.1

Internal testing build

[hulkss]

18.0.6 (7/10/2012)

11. NEW: Live television playback from Media Server using television tuners on the server.

Interesting.
Cablecard tuners?

[phusis]

... The work to free MC of all the Windows dependencies created a lot of new work for developer -  bugs.  Simple everyday things like list controls were rewritten from scratch, so there were a number of problems to fix.

...
Jim

Could you elaborate a bit on the "free MC of all the Windows dependencies"-part? You mean this is done in a way more outspoken compared to MC17?

[vagskal]

Could you elaborate a bit on the "free MC of all the Windows dependencies"-part? You mean this is done in a way more outspoken compared to MC17?

JRiver's Strategy for Platform Independence

[phusis]

I see - thanks.

[jb5200]

How about getting the menus to work in BD iso's!?  That would be awesome!!!

[skylarplane]

So us non-geeks can see and understand all that MC18 can now do, why not put a video together
so we can see what we can do with your new release.  You have so many options but
again, us non-geeks don't know all that your software can do.

Looking forward to MC18.

Skylar

[Chico]

So us non-geeks can see and understand all that MC18 can now do, why not put a video together
so we can see what we can do with your new release.  You have so many options but
again, us non-geeks don't know all that your software can do.

Looking forward to MC18.

Skylar

I Like It!
Would have to be the length of Doctor Schivago <sp> to encompass everything MC does though.

[maid]

Can I download the Beta?  From?

[audunth]

I believe it will be on top of this board when it's ready for the public. Until then it's only available to selected beta testers.

[preproman]

On this:

"'Write file tags when analyzing audio, getting cover art, and applying folder-based tags' (off by default, so a fresh install should never do any tagging)."

I'm assuming "analyzing audio" is talking about replay gain?  What if our library is already analyzed and the replay gain is set.  Will there be an option to add the current replay gain to the tags?

[Matt]

I'm assuming "analyzing audio" is talking about replay gain?  What if our library is already analyzed and the replay gain is set.  Will there be an option to add the current replay gain to the tags?

Replay Gain should already stored in the tags for all popular formats.  You can use 'Update Tags (from library)' to force a tag write if needed.

[ksvane]

Have you considered a clean-up of the Options window? There may be ways to make it more intuitive and less overwhelming. (I know, it's easier said than done, as there are so many features in MC and thus many options that the user needs to be in control of.)

[whkelijun]

Concerned about the progress

[mib4755]

me too 

[pain]

Concerned about the progress

Yes me too

[Trumpetguy]

Concerned about the progress

Why? With the track record of this company, concerns about progress is certainly not one of my worries. Or am I missing the irony in your post?

[Chico]

Why? With the track record of this company, concerns about progress is certainly not one of my worries. Or am I missing the irony in your post?

Just consider the source.  All three of the "Concerned" above are new (or very inactive) members.  They obviously haven't had much experience with JRiver yet.
Funny, Jim posted the notice that it is about 2 weeks from release on August 22nd, and exactly 2 weeks later, new members are getting concerned.  : )

I'd be more concerned with pushing a product to production, than being patient and getting less buggy builds.

Just my 2 cents.....

[Trumpetguy]

Just consider the source.  All three of the "Concerned" above are new (or very inactive) members.  They obviously haven't had much experience with JRiver yet.
Funny, Jim posted the notice that it is about 2 weeks from release on August 22nd, and exactly 2 weeks later, new members are getting concerned.  : )

I'd be more concerned with pushing a product to production, than being patient and getting less buggy builds.

Just my 2 cents.....

Yep, I agree to all above 

[jss28]

You received payment from me one month ago for the upgrade and yet the upgrade is not ready. That's one month's interest-free loan. I am not impressed.

[kensn]

Hey Jim...

 Any new changelogs you could post???

Ken

[JimH]

You received payment from me one month ago for the upgrade and yet the upgrade is not ready. That's one month's interest-free loan. I am not impressed.

Perhaps you missed the details in the announcement.  Please re-read what we said at the time.

I'm sorry if you feel like we're not doing what we promised.

[JimH]

Hey Jim...

 Any new changelogs you could post???

Ken

18.0.38 (8/31/2012)

1. Changed: Made the 'Load Program Guide' dialog a little bigger to avoid text overflow at slightly larger font sizes.
2. Fixed: Launching the program could crash in some cases (only applies to the last few builds).

18.0.37 (8/30/2012)

1. Fixed: Visualizations could cause a crash when stopped.
2. Fixed: Configuration of Theater View Weather was not working.
3. Changed: Renamed 'No subtitles' to 'Off' in the subtitle menu and OSD.
4. Changed: Removed the Play Doctor option 'No variety'.
5. Changed: Using Play Doctor on Gizmo honors the Play Doctor settings like variety, custom filter, etc. from the server.
6. Changed: The MCC MCC_PLAY_AUTOMATIC_PLAYLIST (10047) works better with the updated Play Doctor (honors settings, etc.).
7. Changed: Revised the position and volume sliders to be based on the new slider widgets of v18.
8. Fixed: Possible crash when switching views or stopping playback.
9. Fixed: When switching views, update messages could still get routed to the old view before it was destroyed in the background, leading to possible problems.
10. Changed: Removed 'Google Weather' option from Theater View weather (it's no longer supported by Google).
11. NEW: Added World Weather Online as a possible source for weather in Theater View (worldweatheronline.com).
12. Changed: Merged 'Horizontal Position' and 'Vertical Position' on the OSD for video playback into a single 'Shift' option.
13. Fixed: Editing in the Tag Action Window would not allow large values to expand to use more width than the Action Window.

18.0.36 (8/29/2012)

1. NEW: Native AIFF encoder.
2. Fixed: Hulu playback from Theater View was not working properly.
3. Changed: Forced automatic subtitles will be enabled and shown when 'No subtitles' is selected instead of requiring a selection of 'Forced Subtitles (auto)' (the latter selection is now hidden).
4. Fixed: The options control used for customizing DLNA servers was not working fully.
5. Changed: Added support for entering an Access Key on the 'Sync Library' dialog (used to sync from a server to a client).
6. NEW: Added the ability to set a custom filter to the 'Sync Library' so that it's possible to pull just a single album, artist, etc. from the server.
7. Fixed: "To Be Recorded" list for television on LS client was empty when it should not be empty.
8. NEW: Switched to the reference ALAC decoder ( http://alac.macosforge.org/ ).

18.0.35 (8/28/2012)

1. NEW: Added quality profile selection to Android conversion (requires new Gizmo from jriver.com/install_gizmo.html).
2. Changed: Use the baseline profile for MP4TS video conversion to try to increase compatibility with more devices.

18.0.34 (8/24/2012)

1. Fixed: Switching titles during video playback could leave stale entries in the subtitle selection.
2. NEW: Several OSD commands show a menu of choices instead of only showing one item at a time.
3. Changed: Tuning to OSD layout, timing, etc.
4. Fixed: Moving the volume slider on a remote zone would not update the user interface nicely.
5. Fixed: The program would not start maximized after being closed in a maximized state.
6. Fixed: Action Window > Tag > Image was not showing the tools menu on right-click.
7. Fixed: Editing a remote control command could crash.
8. Changed: DLNA: order of artwork presented in the content directory. Large is first.

18.0.33 (8/23/2012)

1. Fixed: Conflict warning when scheduling television recording did not work for DVB-C/S and QAM types.
2. NEW: MC will check with the server for conflicts when scheduling television recording on a client machine.
3. Fixed: YouTube playback could fail on some systems.
4. Fixed: The edit box on a number editor control was not working properly.
5. Changed: Updated all translation files to include the latest strings from the source code.
6. Changed: Revised how zone-specific settings are stored (groundwork for the coming zone setting presets feature).
7. Changed: Saving a Car Radio preset will always offer to save it as a Playchart even if a static list of music is playing.
8. Changed: The Car Radio button tooltips say whether the button is a playlist or Playchart.
9. Changed: Car Radio uses the playlist group 'Car Radio' instead of 'Play Doctor'.
10. Fixed: Finishing a wizard could crash in some cases.
11. Fixed: The OSD would not always hide when switching to another application.
12. NEW: The OSD groups some commands when playing videos (like all the Color Controls, etc.).
13. Fixed: Pushing left / right was not working to control the OSD when playing in Standard View.
14. Fixed: Frame rate not importing correctly for PAL DVD videos.
15. Changed: DLNA: Cover art thumbnails brought into resolution compliance. Extra cover art resources added to provide the previous size.

[Chico]

You received payment from me one month ago for the upgrade and yet the upgrade is not ready. That's one month's interest-free loan. I am not impressed.

Was there a promise date when you purchased it?

Don't worry!  You have MC17...   So you have GREAT media software already!  Next time, if you'd like, you can wait until the actual release before purchasing.  You'll have the same great software and you won't have to wait after paying, you'll just pay more.

Please don't be concerned.  We are all anxious for 18's release.  Most of us know that a good thing is worth the wait.

Again....  my 2 cents.

[kensn]

Thanks Jim !!!!

Ken

[pain]

I have some problem with mc17 and I couldn't solve my problem for that reason wait is boring
for me.You can see my purchase date in the picture.

[JazzDoc]

Perhaps you missed the details in the announcement.  Please re-read what we said at the time.

I'm sorry if you feel like we're not doing what we promised.

I think that any criticism of the JRiverfolk regarding the release of JRMC18 is a bit unfair. Jim did not specify a final released date. He indicated that the hoped that the first build for download would be available within a week or two of 22.08.2012. You didn't promise Jim so there is no problem.

On the other hand, I'm logging in to Interact on a daily basis in the hope that MC will be ready.

Are you able to offer any further comment regarding a release date Jim. I'm sure that you're all working hard on this new released and that you won't let it go until you are happy with it. If you release it too soon and there are stability problems, then you are likely to receive potentially damaging feedback. MC is a great product and I'm happy to wait but ...

... I would appreciate some updates. I don't see a need to publish build details but if revision of the release date is required, then an anticipated released date update would be helpful.

TIA

[jack wallstreet]

I just can't stands it no more.  I have to comment about some of the comments concerning the release of MC18

I am repeating what others have said, but maybe it will help our new users.

MC is designed and released in a very unusual manner.  Builds are released as often as once a week.  Who else does that?   Then, as soon as it is fully stable and mature and features are locked down, a new version is built.  When a new version is released, it is immature and it takes about a year before features are locked down and all the (mostly minor) bugs get out.  That is the way it is.  That is the expectation and understanding of all of us who have been around awhile. 

Jim was kind enough to say that it would be awhile before MC18 was released.  You can buy it later if you want.  The current version MC17 has ONLY NOW been finalized.  It is VERY current; it is not "old".

 If people don't know the development cycle and the way the product is released, it can take awhile to get used to it, but JRiver is very consistent and all of us who have been around understand and expect that is the way it works.  There are many benefits (and some problems) from that approach, but that is the way it is and has been. 

Those of use who buy this produce want the new version and choose to support this company and its prodcuts because there is none other like it and we want the company and its products to stick around. 

And when MC18 is released, there will be issues.  It probably will be mostly stable, but there will be issues.  If people aren't prepared for that, then wait until later in the development cycle when JRiver and the Interact board make it clear that you aren't likely to have issues.  Again we get the benefit of early release if we want it, but we take some risk of frustration with bugs.  It is our choice.

Okay, I have repeated what others have said, but hopefully this is helpful for our new users.  It is worth it.  And this company is responsive like no other.

[kensn]

We all know they are living high on the hog with all that pre-order money....

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=73863.0

he he he...

[Tiago C]

Please remember that World Peace will come with MC18! 
This may take a while to be acheived, or at least to rmake it run without crashing the program! 

Good programming guys!

[JimH]

I just can't stands it no more.  I have to comment about some of the comments concerning the release of MC18

I am repeating what others have said, but maybe it will help our new users.

MC is designed and released in a very unusual manner.  Builds are released as often as once a week.  Who else does that?   Then, as soon as it is fully stable and mature and features are locked down, a new version is built.  When a new version is released, it is immature and it takes about a year before features are locked down and all the (mostly minor) bugs get out.  That is the way it is.  That is the expectation and understanding of all of us who have been around awhile. 

Jim was kind enough to say that it would be awhile before MC18 was released.  You can buy it later if you want.  The current version MC17 has ONLY NOW been finalized.  It is VERY current; it is not "old".

 If people don't know the development cycle and the way the product is released, it can take awhile to get used to it, but JRiver is very consistent and all of us who have been around understand and expect that is the way it works.  There are many benefits (and some problems) from that approach, but that is the way it is and has been. 

Those of use who buy this produce want the new version and choose to support this company and its prodcuts because there is none other like it and we want the company and its products to stick around. 

And when MC18 is released, there will be issues.  It probably will be mostly stable, but there will be issues.  If people aren't prepared for that, then wait until later in the development cycle when JRiver and the Interact board make it clear that you aren't likely to have issues.  Again we get the benefit of early release if we want it, but we take some risk of frustration with bugs.  It is our choice.

Okay, I have repeated what others have said, but hopefully this is helpful for our new users.  It is worth it.  And this company is responsive like no other.

That is an excellent summary.  Thanks, Mr. Wallstreet.

[Chico]

We all know they are living high on the hog with all that pre-order money....

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=73863.0

he he he...

Yup!  They're eating brats.   This euphoria must last them all year.

Good Job JR Team.  Keep it up and more brats are in your future (along with World Peace).

[whkelijun]

 ? ?

[phusis]

? ?

+1

[kuanj]

+2 ?

[pain]

We're within a week or two of feeling like we have something to show for all the work we've done.  We're at build 32 right now.  I'm guessing that you'll see something posted on this board by around build 40.

Today is third week...
 ?

[phusis]

Today is third week...
 ?

Yes, and build 40 was (almost) a week ago...

[J-a-k-e]

Yes, and build 40 was (almost) a week ago...

Good things take time.

[phusis]

Good things take time.

Indeed, but I'd prefer they didn't say a week or two when it's actually 3+.

[Chico]

Keep in mind that when MC18 Does make it's debut, there will be some bugs.  MC17 is the current stable build.

[Chico]

To those above that didn't understand my previous post..

Yup!  They're eating brats.   This euphoria must last them all year.

Good Job JR Team.  Keep it up and more brats are in your future (along with World Peace).

This explosion in sales is a very good thing for JRiver.  However, it's sort of like Christmas for other retailers.  This is the time when MC sales will determine how JRiver's year will go.  They may be selling like hotcakes now, but it will slow down.  Once it does (usually when the price goes to normal), the euphoria that they have been experiencing will dissipate and revenue will slow down.   Therefor, this must last them all year.  If the sales weren't as good, they will be celebrating with Pork-&-Beans next time.

[J-a-k-e]

Pork-&-Beans? I hope not. I get the feeling that Jim and the team have a huge amount of ideas for future JRiver versions that haven't even been touched upon yet, let alone what other members have posted in the forums.
I'm interested to see where things are headed in a year or so once Media Center has been established in the Mac an Linux communities.

Going off the stereotype here - certain program elements may need to be simplified and automated to keep mac users happy. And I can imagine certain users in the linux community being initially reluctant to pay until they see the feature list.. I wonder if there's going to be a media jukebox for linux too.

[phusis]

If I remember correctly MC17 was at build 20 when released to the general public -- us mortal non-beta users and -developers -- and MC18 should be, what, into build 45 by now and still nothing? Part of paying respect to all the people who've udgraded pre-release is giving us an early grasp at MC18, and when you start out by saying MC18 is "a week or two" away and it ends up nearing now 4 weeks, it seems to me that respect has somewhat diminished.

Get it out now - show us the money.

[jmone]

I understand the frustration... and yes it is taking longer than usual for the first public release, but the reason for what seems like a long delay in the release is due to the rewrite of much of the code base to allow for porting to other OS and this has created more than the usual set of niggles and bugs.  Simple and boring stuff that the Beta Team find and then the JR folk fix.  We are ALL looking forward to the new code base settling down so we can get back to new and exciting Features!

[phusis]

I understand the frustration... and yes it is taking longer than usual for the first public release, but the reason for what seems like a long delay in the release is due to the rewrite of much of the code base to allow for porting to other OS and this has created more than the usual set of niggles and bugs.  Simple and boring stuff that the Beta Team find and then the JR folk fix.  We are ALL looking forward to the new code base settling down so we can get back to new and exciting Features!

Thanks for your reply, jmone - I appreciate it.

[globetrotters1]

It was not very wise to sell MC18 licenses in such an early stage - just my humble opinion

You just make some of your clients mad like this...

not me, but reactions you see within this thread show it clearly

[JimH]

It was not very wise to sell MC18 licenses in such an early stage - just my humble opinion

When we switch versions, we have a few problems in satisfying customers.

So, for a few months, we offer the new license when people purchase the old version.  We offer it at a special price.  This is good for new users, but people who have the old license want to buy the new one at a discount, too.  So we built a way for them to buy, too.

The bottom line, in my opinion, is that, during the transition, people get a very good deal.  But not everyone agrees.