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Author Topic: Can't play 24-bit / 96 kHz / 6 ch flac [Solved]  (Read 15807 times)

GaryWW

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Can't play 24-bit / 96 kHz / 6 ch flac [Solved]
« on: August 19, 2012, 07:16:44 pm »

I ripped a DVD-Audio, to flac, using DVD Audio Extractor and the MC17 player won't play it. It will play it as 2 channel. I am bitstreaming to my AVR via HDMI and everything else plays OK. I believe I have everything configured correctly. I have attached the relevant screen captures.

After creating this post, I installed foobar2000, with DVD-A support, and it is able to play songs from the physical DVD-A disk and the flac file (both at 24-bit/96kHz/6ch). So my computer hardware appears to support it.

So why doesn't MC17 think my hardware supports 24/96/6 when foobar2000 does?
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Micromecca

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Re: Can't play 24-bit / 96 kHz / 6 ch flac
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2012, 07:30:39 am »

What output mode are you using? try setting MC to WASAPI - Event Style or plain WASAPI.

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GaryWW

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Re: Can't play 24-bit / 96 kHz / 6 ch flac
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2012, 08:29:16 am »

I had tried both and neither worked for me.
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Micromecca

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Re: Can't play 24-bit / 96 kHz / 6 ch flac
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2012, 09:02:02 am »

Odd  :-\ but not suprising as I have a similar problem myself with 192k material, I wont go into detail and hijack your thread though  ;D
Hopefully one of the Devs will shed some light on this.
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Re: Can't play 24-bit / 96 kHz / 6 ch flac
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2012, 07:31:53 pm »

I posted the same problem and told to try output mode "direct sound". This worked for me and was told it must be a HDMI driver problem. It doesn't look like I have any way to update this driver on my VIAO laptop.
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GaryWW

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Re: Can't play 24-bit / 96 kHz / 6 ch flac
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2012, 06:42:55 am »

Yep, Direct Sound also worked for me. Looks like that is the same mode that foobar2000 uses. I don't think Direct Sound provides bit-perfect audio, and bit-perfect is the objective, but maybe it is better than down-grading to 2 channel?

Is the issue here with the software or hardware or both; i.e. would a different audio card solve the issue?
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Re: Can't play 24-bit / 96 kHz / 6 ch flac
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2012, 07:08:29 am »


(...)  i.e. would a different audio card solve the issue?

Most likely. I had no issue with an old Asus HDAV with analog extension board, with Asio, Analog out
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Re: Can't play 24-bit / 96 kHz / 6 ch flac
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2012, 01:14:11 pm »

HDMI out from ATI graphics card to Denon receiver, WASAPI Event Style set in MC.  No issues with 96/24 six channel audio here.  Just tested with my Moving Pictures Blu Ray tracks (from FLAC versions).
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Micromecca

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Re: Can't play 24-bit / 96 kHz / 6 ch flac
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2012, 01:21:26 pm »

I can also play 6 channel 24/96 over HDMI with WASAPI Event Style via Radeon HD5450.
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GaryWW

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Re: Can't play 24-bit / 96 kHz / 6 ch flac
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2012, 03:34:51 pm »

 :( My HTPC (Dell INSPIRON zino HD) has the audio and video integrated onto the motherboard. Dell lists the video adapter as an "AMD Mobility Radeon HD 5450 MXM Discrete Graphics Card" and the audio as "Integrated 2.1 high definition audio and up to THX 7.1 Audio". SIW (System Info for Windows) reports an "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series" video device (Manhattan [Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series]) and a High Definition Audio Controller (Cedar HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5400/6300 Series]).

I don't have any problems bitstreaming (WASAPI Event Style) any DVD audio (DTS, DD, etc. ) or Blu-ray audio (Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD Master Audio, etc.) to my AVR. No problems with 24-bit / 96 kHz / 2 ch and 24-bit / 192 kHz / 2 ch either.
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Re: Can't play 24-bit / 96 kHz / 6 ch flac
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2012, 04:08:04 pm »

Gary it could be worth trying Realteks build of the ATI HDMI Audio driver, it fixed a similar issue for a colleague, if it doesnt work you can always roll back the driver.
Its listed as 'ATI HDMI Audio Device' on Realteks Download Page
I believe that Realtek developed the audio section for the Radeon cards so offfer this generic driver.
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Re: Can't play 24-bit / 96 kHz / 6 ch flac
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2012, 06:34:03 am »

Its listed as 'ATI HDMI Audio Device' on Realteks Download Page

Thank you for the link. According to the date stamp, the drivers are certainly newer than what Dell is providing. Unfortunately they didn't help. I can't tell if they are any better, or worse, than what I was using but I'll keep using them anyway.

I wonder if there are any programs that can convert .flac to Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD Master Audio? I'll have to look for that.

Edit: "Unfortunately they didn't help". Having said that, since I am sending the audio over the HDMI cable, wouldn't Windows, and therefore foobar2000, be using the ATI HDMI driver as well? foobar2000 plays the multi-channel .flac files.
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Re: Can't play 24-bit / 96 kHz / 6 ch flac
« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2012, 06:42:08 am »

There are tools available to encode to DTS-HD-MA but they are incredibly expensive, not sure about Dolby True HD.
I am still trying to pin down the cause of my own issue (can't playback 2 channel 192k over HDMI) so I'll share anything I discover, it may help.
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Re: Can't play 24-bit / 96 kHz / 6 ch flac
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2012, 07:43:07 am »

foobar2000 plays the multi-channel .flac files.

Just spotted this, are you using the wasapi output module in foobar?
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GaryWW

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Re: Can't play 24-bit / 96 kHz / 6 ch flac
« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2012, 07:54:48 am »

Just spotted this, are you using the wasapi output module in foobar?

You are the man!  :)

Not unless it is included in the base installation. The foobar2000 guide I used didn't mention it. I'll check it out (and will probably find that it has the same issues as MC17).
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Re: Can't play 24-bit / 96 kHz / 6 ch flac
« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2012, 08:34:43 am »

I just tested it;  :(
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Re: Can't play 24-bit / 96 kHz / 6 ch flac
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2012, 09:25:14 pm »

Is a GT430 video card the answer to my audio problems?
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Re: Can't play 24-bit / 96 kHz / 6 ch flac [Solved]
« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2012, 04:16:09 pm »

So I have an older computer with an Nvidia GeForce 9300 based motherboard in it. I put an Nvidia GeForce GT4300 video card in it (thank you to renethx's posts recommending it) and now everything is working; including 24-bit / 96 kHz / 6 ch audio.  ;D
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Re: Can't play 24-bit / 96 kHz / 6 ch flac [Solved]
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2012, 05:00:54 am »

Hey Gary, thats great news  ;D do you have any 2 channel 192k material that you could test with that card?

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Re: Can't play 24-bit / 96 kHz / 6 ch flac [Solved]
« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2012, 06:36:16 am »

do you have any 2 channel 192k material that you could test with that card?

I do. I downloaded a Righteous Brothers track from HDTracks, and it plays fine.
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Re: Can't play 24-bit / 96 kHz / 6 ch flac [Solved]
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2012, 08:13:33 am »

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