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Blaine78

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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 playlist shortcuts
« on: October 07, 2012, 07:32:23 pm »

Hello,

not sure if this has been brought up before, but how do you remove the new 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 playlist shortcuts in JR18 from the  normal nowplaying view?
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Re: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 playlist shortcuts
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2012, 08:04:46 pm »

Start playback, then click and hold to customize the labels.
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Re: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 playlist shortcuts
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2012, 08:07:55 pm »

You can not remove them....
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Re: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 playlist shortcuts
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2012, 06:27:51 am »

yes, i'd like to have option to remove them. is clutter as i never use them
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Re: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 playlist shortcuts
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2012, 07:31:58 am »

I could live with it cluttering up playing now, but I can't live with it also being in cover view. I use this as my display when listening to music and it is keeping me from adapting to version 18.

I won't really start crying until a must have feature is introduced.

The buttons seem to be outside the spirit of a 'clean' interface that media center has held fast. I remember discussions about the problem of even adding one button for a feature (and how it ended up being added cleanly without effecting the ui).

I'm still hoping for them to become an option.

Keep up the good work guys!

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Re: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 playlist shortcuts
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2012, 07:58:09 am »

I think they would be less intrusive along the very bottom of the interface, on the Bottom Toolbar.
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Re: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 playlist shortcuts
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2012, 09:32:58 am »

I have voiced my opinion on this already. They are in the way. A neat feature indeed, but for those of us who don't use them they are very aesthetically distracting in now playing. This is the kind of thing they teach me at university not to do when designing software. Like, ever.
Please, Jim, take into account that we are more than a few who do wish they were optional.
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Re: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 playlist shortcuts
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2012, 09:47:01 am »

We plan no change at this time.
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Re: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 playlist shortcuts
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2012, 10:40:43 am »

I can see how the buttons don't look as good in Cover View. Since that view removes a lot of other unnecessary items, it does seem like it should also remove the shortcut buttons. Maybe they could fade out like the other items.

I don't have a problem with them in Standard View.
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Re: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 playlist shortcuts
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2012, 11:14:49 am »

Is there any way to target these buttons in our skins? While I don't use them and would prefer to hide them, I would be happy if I at least could change how they look. Right now, they're bit of an eyesore
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Re: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 playlist shortcuts
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2012, 12:54:17 pm »

, I would be happy if I at least could change how they look.
Start playback of anything, then press and hold to program them.  At that point you can name them something else *** or <°)))))>< for instance.

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=73715.0
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Re: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 playlist shortcuts
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2012, 01:01:20 pm »

Start playback of anything, then press and hold to program them.  At that point you can name them something else *** or <°)))))>< for instance.

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=73715.0

Ah, that's not what I'm talking about. Should have made myself clearer. I'm looking to skin the look of the actual buttons (background/hover etc.), not the text.
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Re: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 playlist shortcuts
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2012, 02:03:01 am »

Ah, that's not what I'm talking about. Should have made myself clearer. I'm looking to skin the look of the actual buttons (background/hover etc.), not the text.
The default buttons are actually rather clever in the way that they use transparency to allow them to work with almost any skin. I personally feel that the default buttons work best with darker skins, but can be a little jarring with some of the lighter skins.

They are skinnable though. Have a look in your "[MC install Directory]\Data\Default Skin Items\Standard View\" folder, where you will find three images named "CarRadio_ButtonLeft.png" "CarRadio_ButtonMiddle.png" and "CarRadio_ButtonRight.png". You need to create your own versions of these three images, saving them in the actual skin folder itself, not the "default skin items" folder. Once that's done, you then need to add the following code to the "Main.xml" file found in the skin folder (again, not the one found in the "Default Items" folder):
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<CARRADIO>
  <Entry Name="ButtonLeft" Bitmap="CarRadio_ButtonLeft.png" NumberImages="4" Margins="3,3,2,0" OverTextColor="FFFFFF" PressedTextColor="FFFFFF" />
  <Entry Name="ButtonMiddle" Bitmap="CarRadio_ButtonMiddle.png" NumberImages="4" Margins="0,3,2,0" OverTextColor="FFFFFF" PressedTextColor="FFFFFF" />
  <Entry Name="ButtonRight" Bitmap="CarRadio_ButtonRight.png" NumberImages="4" Margins="0,3,3,0" OverTextColor="FFFFFF" PressedTextColor="FFFFFF" />
</CARRADIO>
Once done, re-apply the skin to load your new buttons

It's not possible to skin them out of existence using 100% transparency. The buttons disappear, but leave a background coloured 'placeholder' bar showing that cannot be removed. You can remove the numbers by going to the "Car Radio" playlist group and adding playlists there named using this template: "[button number].[space]" so, a playlist named 12.   would remove the "12" from button 12, and so on.

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Re: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 playlist shortcuts
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2012, 11:20:09 pm »

They are skinnable though.

Thanks for this! It really cleans up the look, but still eats vertical space. And they're still active so you can easily mess up what's playing if you accidentally click one. Even if nothing's programmed, it'll still restart the current track. Guess I need to be careful when going for the splitter.

It's not possible to skin them out of existence using 100% transparency. The buttons disappear, but leave a background coloured 'placeholder' bar showing that cannot be removed.

So you can't use the skin to set the height to zero? I really wish I understood skinning better.  :(

JRiver, would you at least consider an option to hide these when something's playing?
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Re: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 playlist shortcuts
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2012, 05:03:55 am »

I do not understand why this buttons can't at least be hidden. I understand that peole that never use it would like to hide them.
What about a discrete arrow on the left side, that toggles them on and off? Should be simple enough, right?
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Re: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 playlist shortcuts
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2012, 12:15:03 am »

*snip*

Thanks! That really made all the difference :)
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Re: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 playlist shortcuts
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2012, 06:38:02 pm »

the option to hide these buttons appreciated. they serve no function, so are visual clutter.
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Re: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 playlist shortcuts
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2012, 07:29:46 pm »

Sorry, but the cuteness of the 'car radio' idea is far more important than function or aesthetics. Making the buttons optional would destroy the illusion the UI is part of the dashboard of your '57 Chevy. JRiver knows few users would want that, just as they're certain no one is interested in the option to show or hide the buttons in any view, or in using them as a means to combine Play Doctor features with their favourite playlists.

Unless you can prove they impair sound fidelity, the buttons stay. ;)
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Re: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 playlist shortcuts
« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2012, 01:48:04 am »

Gotta love sarcasm :)
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Re: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 playlist shortcuts
« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2012, 02:53:09 am »

Start playback of anything, then press and hold to program them.  At that point you can name them something else *** or <°)))))>< for instance.

I knew there must be some kind of use for those knobs... so we need more rows of them.

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