Topic: CDDB and bulk update of selected fields/tags (Read 4764 times)

Mysticeti · « **on:** April 05, 2002, 05:54:56 am »

Hi,

The vast majority of my MP3 files do not have the year tag filled in. Would it be possible for MJ to peruse my library for MP3 files that don't have the year field set and query CDDB to get it? When multiple CDDB matches occur it could perhaps select the first match that has the year set? Or the oldest (non-zero) year?

Does this sound useful to anyone else?

Thanks!

KingSparta · « **Reply #1 on:** April 05, 2002, 05:57:42 am »

Why Don't You Just Sort By Year, Select All That Are "0" And Click On Properties, Then Change The year, And Then Save And All Will Be Updated With The Year you Typed In.

Mysticeti · « **Reply #2 on:** April 05, 2002, 06:22:01 am »

I guess I should have mentioned that I have roughly 30GB of MP3 files. An automated solution is much prefered.

KingSparta · « **Reply #3 on:** April 05, 2002, 06:40:25 am »

Mysticeti

Maybe i should have mentioned i have over 110,500 MP3's, over 500 Gigs

And it works fine for me.

I did write a program to do this and also imput a genre and comment if one does not exist, along with that it also lookes up the file with CDDB and will get a Description (Maybe).

http://home.nc.rr.com/mycddblookup/index.html

Bryan · « **Reply #4 on:** April 05, 2002, 07:24:01 am »

I think Mysticeti has a valid issue. Would love to know how to do that too.. if it could be pulled off somehow..

Maybe I'm overlooking something but I don't see the value in Selecting All and entering a single year. Might as well leave it as 0. That's one of the fields I like to be accurate for each song.

Bryan

KingSparta · « **Reply #5 on:** April 05, 2002, 07:34:24 am »

well the problem is CDDB did not require the date to be entered in by the user when the cd's were put into there data base.

so regardless of what me and you want, it is a CDDB data base issue not a MJ issue.

MJ does not have a auto scan all selected files option, it would be nice, it has been requested before.

it still may not render a date however. and just because you get a date from CDDB does not mean it is correct. this is due to USERS like me and you enter this data and submit it to cddb so that the next user does not need to enter it.

Bryan · « **Reply #6 on:** April 05, 2002, 07:51:44 am »

I agree, CDDB data is at best semi-accurate and usually requires some manaual correction. But at least you get something out of it and that's better than nothing.

Bryan

Mysticeti · « **Reply #7 on:** April 05, 2002, 08:16:05 am »

As near as I can tell, MJ already has the ability to do CDDB lookup for a single file. I'm hoping it's not too much harder to do it for multiple files and to restrict the fields that get set as a result of the CDDB query/queries. I have noticed that sometimes there are multiple CDDB hits for a specific song and I suspect that increases the odds of getting a hit that includes the tags your interested in. A little logic to deal with those cases could improve the usefulness of such a feature.

KingSparta, thanks for the pointer.

It seems to me that if someone where to come up with a sanitized, standardized, alternative to CDDB the world would flock to their door.

Cheers!

KingSparta · « **Reply #8 on:** April 05, 2002, 08:30:57 am »

>> I have noticed that sometimes there are multiple CDDB hits for a specific song
this can be due to a few things.

1. the recored company re-released and there may be a order change of the songs on the cd-rom
2. they may have trimed some of the songs, and a 1 second trim will change the cd-rom's TOS

there may or may not be any data changed, also some may have spelling errors and others not.

you may also have cd matchs that have nothing to do with the artist.

this is what GraceNote CDDB Calls a "Fuzzy Match"

I agree more should be done by grace note to clean up there data base, they have also seen cutbacks in the past 6 months.

one other thing that would be nice But the CDDB contract does not allow is the use of Multible Sources of data, Like Grace Note CDDB And Free CDDB.

Note: Free CDDB does Not Allow For MP3 File Lookups like you get from GraceNote CDDB That MJ Uses. I did talk to the programer about this however, he liked that i asked him for it but i don't think this is top priority for him.

Mysticeti · « **Reply #9 on:** April 05, 2002, 08:47:55 am »

"one other thing that would be nice But the CDDB contract does not allow is the use of Multible Sources of data, Like Grace Note CDDB And Free CDDB"

Agreed!

This exclusivity clause smacks of monopolistic practices in my book (but I'm not a lawyer nor do I play one on TV).

FWIW: here is FreeDB's web page: http://www.freedb.org

Doof · « **Reply #10 on:** April 05, 2002, 08:55:08 am »

What would be really nice is if MJ "accidentally" had some sort of registry hack that the user could exploit in order to use FreeDB instead of CDDB. Then JRiver is free and clear, and we can all use what we want.

Um... did I say that out loud?

KingSparta · « **Reply #11 on:** April 05, 2002, 01:14:26 pm »

Doof

it would take more than a registry hack.

TedP · « **Reply #12 on:** April 05, 2002, 01:38:57 pm »

I already requested this as an enhancement in the wishlist here. vote for it, and maybe it will make it in. i tried mp3tag grabber and got too confused, and too scared to apply it to my entire collection. looks like a promising program though.

-t

KingSparta · « **Reply #13 on:** April 05, 2002, 01:43:55 pm »

>> I tried mp3tag grabber and got too confused
Me Too (I Was Also Confused, Maybe To Much Beer)

sekim · « **Reply #14 on:** April 05, 2002, 01:53:13 pm »

KingSparta

I tried the Tag Grabber earlier and it gave me some s#!*. Just got the key code, does that make a diffrence to how this works?

KingSparta · « **Reply #15 on:** April 05, 2002, 02:15:52 pm »

>> I tried the Tag Grabber earlier and it gave me some s#!*.
Well It Will Save The s#!* It Gave you.

CDDB is not perfect when trying to find a match using MP3 File Names Thats For Sure, and it depends on how the file names are named.

CDDB MP3 lookup likes the format "Artist - Title" Or "Title - Artist".

but on Napster type downloads it will find about 33% of them on CDDB

sekim · « **Reply #16 on:** April 05, 2002, 02:43:54 pm »

That isn't what I meant. This is what I was trying to say.

MP3 TAG GRABBER caused an invalid page fault in
module KERNEL32.DLL at 0167:bff9db61.

KingSparta · « **Reply #17 on:** April 05, 2002, 02:52:31 pm »

MachineHead

Well, I guess it will not work for you then.

I would say it is an OS problem since I am sure your not using Windows XP or Windows 2000.

I stopped working on the program (for now), and it does nothing that should cause this error.

if i do ever start working on the program again it is when CDDB comes out with the new dll's that support MP3Pro and when i have time sometime this summer, and i will re-write it from the ground up.

sekim · « **Reply #18 on:** April 05, 2002, 02:56:23 pm »

Thanks King. You're right, 98SE. Just trying it out to see what it could do. Still in the lower part of the learning curve. Wasn't trying to be offensive. Sorry if it came off that way.

Mike

KingSparta · « **Reply #19 on:** April 05, 2002, 03:01:38 pm »

>> Wasn't trying to be offensive. Sorry if it came off that way.
Nope, Not at all

I tell you, Windows XP Is Allot Better when it comes to "NOT CRASHING"

Nice And Stable

sekim · « **Reply #20 on:** April 05, 2002, 03:28:25 pm »

That's what I've heard. My mother-in-law just upgraded about a month ago. I should ask what she thinks of xp now that she has had it for a while. I don't think I'm going to do that with this machine. To old and slow for any benefits. Do have a notion to get creative and build my own machine just to say I did. Got confused a while back when you said you were waiting for the new boards to come out. Did some more research and saw the error of my ways.

Then again, maybe I should just stick to making furniture and cribbage boards! I can handle that stuff without to many problems. Have a beautiful piece of crotch figured walnut waiting to be made into something special.

Listening to:
Union Underground
An Education In Rebellion

KingSparta · « **Reply #21 on:** April 05, 2002, 03:35:26 pm »

>> Got confused a while back when you said you were waiting for the new boards to come out.
Still Waiting..

AMD boards are out With the New IDe Controllers (They Handle 160 Gigs Per Drive And More)

Intel I am Sure Is Working On It.

The CPU work has slowed down I feel is due to the economy

Doof · « **Reply #22 on:** April 05, 2002, 05:59:40 pm »

KingSparta> Here's what I get when I try to get a key. I filled in the form, clicked the button and away the message went. And about .5 seconds later, I got this in reply.

Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.

Subject: Key Code Request
Sent: 4/5/2002 10:54 PM

The following recipient(s) could not be reached:

'MP3TagGrabber@nc.rr.com' on 4/5/2002 10:54 PM
None of your e-mail accounts could send to this recipient.

KingSparta · « **Reply #23 on:** April 06, 2002, 12:57:35 am »

Life would be better if everything worked perfect, but then you would never have an Adventure.

Doof, if you type in CDDB in the first text box it will register (It Is A Secret Password) Don't Tell Anyone.

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Author Topic: CDDB and bulk update of selected fields/tags (Read 4764 times)

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