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Maintenance of jremote.
« on: December 05, 2018, 02:58:05 pm »

Guys, I’ve been using this software on iOS for years now. It’s fantastic. One of the best things about the jriver ecosystem I think. But I really wish you would show it some love. It’s not had any development for ages. Instead of making bizarre corner case features with jriver why not concentrate on what makes the system great as the centre of a hifi system. This is after all the core use case for jriver.

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Re: Maintenance of jremote.
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2018, 03:43:10 pm »

Bob's been doing some work on JRemote lately, like trying to figure out the video freeze issue.
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Re: Maintenance of jremote.
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2018, 04:00:17 pm »

It would help if you posted the problem you have.
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Re: Maintenance of jremote.
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2018, 12:11:07 pm »

Main issues:
1. Issues around changing screen orientation; landscape doesn’t work very well and the changeover causes screen draw issues.
2. Volume and track position sliders don’t update properly often, especially if multi tasking on iOS. When flipping back it seems to take an age to update positions sometimes.
3. If I have a playlist created in jremote, I listen to half of it, then stop for a few hours or a day. Renderer goes to sleep. If I then open it all up again I can’t start where I left off. Only the last track playing will be loaded into the playlist.

Other little bits and pieces I can’t think of right now. 3 prob most annoying. My point it it would be nice if the software were tested a developed further to find and iron out issues. It’s a shame as it’s great it just needs a bit of polishing.
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Re: Maintenance of jremote.
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2018, 04:03:41 am »


I agree JRemote is a jewel but could use a few upgrades.
Swipe right / left to display next / previous image would be so nice and can't be too much development to implement.

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Re: Maintenance of jremote.
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2018, 04:15:21 am »

Bob's been doing some work on JRemote lately fixing things. If there's a specific issue you're encountering, the best way to get it fixed would be to post the exact steps to reproduce the issue.
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Re: Maintenance of jremote.
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2018, 05:42:30 am »

Mine is not really an issue but a lacking feature.

When looking at your photos full screen, it would be nice to just swipe right to get the next one and left to get the previous one. Currently you have to come back to the GUI.

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Re: Maintenance of jremote.
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2018, 12:25:13 pm »


Swipe right / left to display next / previous image would be so nice and can't be too much development to implement.


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Re: Maintenance of jremote.
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2018, 12:36:47 pm »

Swiping up or down could change the album too.
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Re: Maintenance of jremote.
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2018, 09:43:45 am »

I posted a question about JRemote a while ago. Perhaps it is better suited in this thread. Here is my question:
Hello, I am a great fan of the use of JRemote. I use it from my iPhone and from 2 iPads to access my Music Server. I am really happy with it, apart from one little hinderance.
In the JRiver Music Center there is a long and editable list of articles to be ignored in sorting names. In JRemote it is only "a", "an" and "the". The result is that for example a album named "La Divina" which is under "D" in the JRiver Music Center" will be the album found when you search for "L" in JRemote.

I wonder if it is possible to make the "ignore articles" function in JRemote equally flexible as in the MC.
Or does anyone has a suggestion how to prevent this (apart from reducing the article-ignore list in MC)

Thanks
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Re: Maintenance of jremote.
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2018, 03:48:40 pm »

My request would be full screen on the iPhone X models. Currently it's cropped to match the old sizes.

Otherwise, I couldn't love JRemote any more!

Best to JRiver in the new year!

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Re: Maintenance of jremote.
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2018, 03:09:47 am »

Everything on JRemote works great for me right now.  Samsung SM-G550T running Android 6.0.1.

My only problem with it, is I can't stream photos.  Not an MC problem, cause EOS can do it.  I click on any photo, and it says "Playing all files, starting with xxxxxx".  And then it does nothing.  Bottom display says "Nothing is currently playing".
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Re: Maintenance of jremote.
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2018, 09:32:14 am »

My request would be full screen on the iPhone X models. Currently it's cropped to match the old sizes.

Otherwise, I couldn't love JRemote any more!

Best to JRiver in the new year!

Spencer
How bad is that? I'm thinking about retiring my 6s+ in favour of an XR, or XS Max... Any chance you could post a picture?

Swipe right / left to display next / previous image would be so nice and can't be too much development to implement.
I asked for this many many years ago, also reported the rotating screen corruption around the same time.

Other than that, JRemote gets daily use in the car and performs most excellently. :)

-marko

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Re: Maintenance of jremote.
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2018, 10:08:05 am »

Marko, what's your setup in your car? 
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Re: Maintenance of jremote.
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2018, 02:25:25 pm »

iPhone paired with car via Bluetooth... Start playlist in JRemote, when arriving at destination, switch off car, audio pauses, when leaving, switch on car, auto pairing, playlist continues automatically.

All rather excellent really. A twenty gig data plan with EE for £11 / month also helps :)

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Re: Maintenance of jremote.
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2018, 07:54:03 pm »

JRemote is the best app/best layout of all the platforms and programs I've tried. Love it and use it every day.
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Re: Maintenance of jremote.
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2018, 03:41:00 am »

How bad is that? I'm thinking about retiring my 6s+ in favour of an XR, or XS Max... Any chance you could post a picture?
It doesn't help with your phone questions, but it's really bad on the 11" iPad Pro when trying to watch video.
The app also crashes when connecting/disconnecting the USB-C headphone adapter, just like it used to (and maybe still does?) with the Lightning headphone adapter.
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Re: Maintenance of jremote.
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2018, 05:37:05 pm »


The fix I would like for jremote is when switching between a single song (with album cover) and the song list.  If the the Iphone is rotated to landscape (with the song list) and then back to portrait, the app gets confused and more or less continues to display in landscape when in portrait (may have to switch between album cover and song list to get it confused).  Let me know if you need exact sequence of steps.


I  love jremote and use it all the time.  The Panel remains way too slow (although seems faster than it used to be) to review a large set of playlists (would killing the images help). 



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Re: Maintenance of jremote.
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2018, 09:13:45 pm »

I think that problem has been fixed in a build that Bob is testing.
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Re: Maintenance of jremote.
« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2018, 10:45:42 pm »

First, let me say a) how much I value JRemote and use it daily, and 2) a big thanks for allocating a few resources to tune it up. My top bug-fix request:

I use album view (to browse thumbnails) 90% of the time. I have several thousand albums in the library. Along the right edge of the display is an alphabet of anchor links that in theory should jump the display to albums whose “album” tag begins with that letter. Only a handful of those “index” point letters work (H, O, and V are the main ones I rely on). The rest reset the display to the top (album titles beginning with numerals). I know this has been discussed before, but if there is renewed commitment to bug fixes, I would greatly appreciate having this work correctly. It would save hours of scrolling over a listening season. Search is not always a satisfactory alternative.

I’ll defer other requests for now, knowing you have a full plate. Thanks!
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Re: Maintenance of jremote.
« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2019, 03:34:45 am »

First, let me say a) how much I value JRemote and use it daily, and 2) a big thanks for allocating a few resources to tune it up. My top bug-fix request:

I use album view (to browse thumbnails) 90% of the time. I have several thousand albums in the library. Along the right edge of the display is an alphabet of anchor links that in theory should jump the display to albums whose “album” tag begins with that letter. Only a handful of those “index” point letters work (H, O, and V are the main ones I rely on). The rest reset the display to the top (album titles beginning with numerals). I know this has been discussed before, but if there is renewed commitment to bug fixes, I would greatly appreciate having this work correctly. It would save hours of scrolling over a listening season. Search is not always a satisfactory alternative.

I’ll defer other requests for now, knowing you have a full plate. Thanks!
If I recall correctly, this is because JRemote has a long-standing bug which displays the A-Z list in views where it is not applicable (the list is not sorted alphabetically) and you need to change the sort mode of that view to A-Z.
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Re: Maintenance of jremote.
« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2019, 07:37:34 pm »

I’m sure it’s a longstanding bug ;). In my “Album” view, I see thumbnails and below each thumbnail the text of its “album” tag. The view is sorted in the usual IT alpha sort on those tags—that is, special characters (“, #, etc.) first, then numerals starting with 1, 1x, 1xx, 1xxx, etc., then alpha A-Z. So the sort order is fine (and there’s a little icon up top that shows “A-Z” with a down arrow). I don’t know how to change that; when I tap or hold the icon nothing happens. The problem is that when I tap one of the the letters in the vertical A-Z index list, it jumps back to the beginning of the display except for a few apparently random (although repeatable, at least) letters that act as real index points, the way an HTML anchor tag jumps to a specific point in a web page/file. It looks as though it’s designed to let you jump to the album tags (and associated thumbnails) that begin with the selected index letter. With a very large library, this is invaluable. Otherwise one must pick the closest working index point and then swipe and swipe and swipe (at least the flywheel effect helps) to reach the vicinity of the desired album or group of albums.

Search is not always helpful here because, for example, album names (even for those I’ve tagged myself) may not always contain a consistent query term. For instance, I have the complete Rubinstein Chopin set (something like 11 discs) but the album title (I didn’t tag it) begins with “A” for “Artur Rubinstein: The Chopin Collection.” So to compare his performance of the waltzes with that of Lipatti or recent contenders, most of whom have album tags that begin “Chopin:”, I have to swipe all the way back and forth through hundreds of albums by Bruch, Brahms, Beethoven, Bach, etc. This is seriously time consuming and frustrating due to the limited reliable duration of musical (echoic) memory. For a reviewer a significant drawback. If I search on “Chopin waltz” I may get results that include both, but tapping the album of interest from the results list yields a view that does not allow me to access the “metadata” (tag info) the way I can from Album view using the “i” icon beside each track. Most of my classical albums have distinct tags for “name” (movement designation/tempo marking, song title, opus number within a set, etc.) and “composition” (work title, opus number for set, etc.) which is just basic data hygiene, so not all relevant information to identify the track is visible in the name field alone.

So a second request, if it ever became possible, would be a way to link from the display resulting from selecting an album from a search results list (is that the “now playing” view?) back to the display resulting from selecting a specific album from the Album view. If there’s a way to do that now, I’d love to know.

But first things first. Given that the alpha index list seemingly works for some letters, I would think that either it should be possible to find and correct why it doesn’t work for others, or, if the current behavior is not in fact using the first letter of the album tag but by coincidence happens to land on it for a few freakish examples, that constructing an index that moves the display to the first tag beginning with the relevant letter should not be super difficult, since the sort order is already correctly displayed.

(Not sure if it matters, but I’m using this on a tablet (iPad Air II) to control MC on a Mac mini server fed from a hardwired NAS, feeding an outboard DAC and analog amplification.)
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Re: Maintenance of jremote.
« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2019, 03:54:07 am »

I found an older post that described the issue:

This is a bug in JRemote. Two bugs, actually.

1. When you are displaying a list of items that are not sorted alphabetically, JRemote often opens that view in the A-Z sort mode rather than preserving the server-side list sorting.
For example: Loading my "new imports" view which is sorted by "date imported" still defaults to the A-Z sort mode in JRemote.

2. JRemote does not sort the view when it is in thumbnail mode.
If you change the view to either of the other list types, the view is correctly sorted A-Z and the list selector works as expected.
In Thumbnail view, the A-Z sort option changes the list selector at the side, but does not sort the items being displayed.
So the A-Z selector down the side appears to be broken or random, since it's jumping to the first item in a list beginning with that letter, when the list is not sorted alphabetically.
 
Until it's fixed, you will have to either change the view to something other than thumbnail view for A-Z sorting to work correctly, or change the list sort type away from A-Z to use the regular list selector to scroll through it quickly.
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« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2019, 08:26:36 am »

Thanks, I remember that post. So the bug that needs to be fixed is to "sort" in thumbnail mode by the displayed album-tag text. Surely this can't be too hard, since thumbnail mode already displays albums in the correct sort order.

I find thumbnail album cover recognition often to be much faster than reading text, so the array in thumbnail view is very helpful in browsing for a specific album, especially if I don't recall the album-tag text exactly. Even when I do, the other two list modes (either album-tag text alone or left-side thumbnail + album-tag text) list only a single item per line, so in the latter (the only vaguely useful one for me) I only see 9 albums per screen in landscape mode on my tablet. So even with the selector working, I still have to swipe far too many times to get to a specific album in the middle of a given "letter range." It's more predictable, but not much if any faster than swiping through in thumbnail mode (where I see 40 thumbnails per screen) from the three or four selector letters that sort of work.

So I guess I'm repeating the request to make thumbnail mode sortable by the displayed album-tag text so the A-Z selector functions as it does for the other modes (that is, jump to where the first line in the thumbnail array contains the first item having album-tag text that begins with the selected character).

Thanks!
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« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2019, 03:08:52 pm »

It doesn't help with your phone questions, but it's really bad on the 11" iPad Pro when trying to watch video.
The app also crashes when connecting/disconnecting the USB-C headphone adapter, just like it used to (and maybe still does?) with the Lightning headphone adapter.
I'll take a look at these, but it won't be fixed in the next build that's already in beta.
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Re: Maintenance of jremote.
« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2019, 08:25:05 am »

Just a reminder: Can I expect in the future a more flexible possibility to exclude articles in JRemote, just like in MC? For the rest I love JRemote it is an otherwise perfect app.
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Re: Maintenance of jremote.
« Reply #26 on: May 18, 2019, 05:03:56 am »

I agree jremote is the jewel in the crown, better than audirvana and the others ...

I agree it could do with more love.

I have asked before but could a delete from playlist be added its crazy you can add a track but can’t remove a track.

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« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2019, 10:35:49 am »

Just a reminder: Can I expect in the future a more flexible possibility to exclude articles in JRemote, just like in MC? For the rest I love JRemote it is an otherwise perfect app.
It probably should have the ability to toggle the setting like in MC. Looking into it...
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« Reply #28 on: May 20, 2019, 10:38:45 am »

I agree jremote is the jewel in the crown, better than audirvana and the others ...

I agree it could do with more love.

I have asked before but could a delete from playlist be added its crazy you can add a track but can’t remove a track.

Thanks.
I'm not a playlist oriented user so I've never really used that functionality.
The API calls that JRemote depends on for that functionality didn't contain a playlist delete until a few days ago when it was added.
So I'd like to play with this however I don't see how that a track can be ADDED to an existing playlist in JRemote now. Can you fill me in?
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« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2019, 10:55:01 am »

Press and hold the track. Add to existing playlist is near the bottom of the context menu.
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« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2019, 09:00:04 am »

Press and hold the track. Add to existing playlist is near the bottom of the context menu.
I'm not seeing that in my long press on a track.
I get
Play Now
Play Next
Add to "Now Playing"
Shuffle and Play
Play Doctor

Clear "Playing Now"
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« Reply #31 on: May 21, 2019, 09:03:39 am »

I'm not seeing that in my long press on a track.
I get
Play Now
Play Next
Add to "Now Playing"
Shuffle and Play
Play Doctor

Clear "Playing Now"

Maybe it's because I'm using a iPhone SE (small format screen layout).
I did find a way to do it.
Playing Now
Track view
Left swipe, add to playlist.
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« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2019, 10:40:53 am »

Maybe it's because I'm using a iPhone SE (small format screen layout).

It must be an Android vs iOS difference. My iPad works as you've described, but my Android phone shows "Add to playlist".
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« Reply #33 on: May 22, 2019, 06:19:14 am »

Maybe it's because I'm using a iPhone SE (small format screen layout).
I did find a way to do it.
Playing Now
Track view
Left swipe, add to playlist.

Yes Bob thats what I do on my ipad. Go into now playing screen and left swipe to add to playlist. The delete option also shown on left swipe removes from now playing not playlist. Maybe a delete from playlist option could be added here?

The context menu from long press on a track in album view does not show add to playlist option on ipad.

It all works in the same way on my iphone, so any differences, as stated above, must be ios vs android.

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« Reply #34 on: May 23, 2019, 09:15:37 am »

Yes Bob thats what I do on my ipad. Go into now playing screen and left swipe to add to playlist. The delete option also shown on left swipe removes from now playing not playlist. Maybe a delete from playlist option could be added here?

The context menu from long press on a track in album view does not show add to playlist option on ipad.

It all works in the same way on my iphone, so any differences, as stated above, must be ios vs android.

Thanks.
I added that to the iOS version I'm working on and it looks good and works well.
When the build eventually hits the AppStore it will require MC25 on the server side to delete a track from a playlist since that function was just added to MCWS.

We'll see if we can get Hendrik to add it to the Android version ;)
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« Reply #35 on: May 25, 2019, 11:02:01 am »

Great news Bob,
Many thanks!
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« Reply #36 on: May 28, 2019, 06:58:49 am »

This is a great new feature!  Thanks Bob for adding it and thanks all for pressing for it.  So glad to see JRemote getting some love.  It is a marvelous program.
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« Reply #37 on: June 14, 2019, 09:22:20 am »

Just a reminder: Can I expect in the future a more flexible possibility to exclude articles in JRemote, just like in MC? For the rest I love JRemote it is an otherwise perfect app.
The iOS JRemote in beta now uses the articles set in MC (if the sort by articles switch in JRemote is on).
If the article list in MC is empty it defaults back to the previous behavior.
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Re: Maintenance of jremote.
« Reply #38 on: June 14, 2019, 09:31:06 am »

I found an older post that described the issue:
This is a bug in JRemote. Two bugs, actually.

1. When you are displaying a list of items that are not sorted alphabetically, JRemote often opens that view in the A-Z sort mode rather than preserving the server-side list sorting.
For example: Loading my "new imports" view which is sorted by "date imported" still defaults to the A-Z sort mode in JRemote.

2. JRemote does not sort the view when it is in thumbnail mode.
If you change the view to either of the other list types, the view is correctly sorted A-Z and the list selector works as expected.
In Thumbnail view, the A-Z sort option changes the list selector at the side, but does not sort the items being displayed.
So the A-Z selector down the side appears to be broken or random, since it's jumping to the first item in a list beginning with that letter, when the list is not sorted alphabetically.
 
Until it's fixed, you will have to either change the view to something other than thumbnail view for A-Z sorting to work correctly, or change the list sort type away from A-Z to use the regular list selector to scroll through it quickly.


I am making the assumption we are talking about the iOS build here, if that's not the case let me know.

As far as the first point goes, JRemote doesn't really know if the view it's being presented is supposed to be Alpha sort order or not so I dont' see how that could be different.

For the second point, I can't reproduce this, at least on the beta I've just uploaded.
When I switch to thumbnail mode everything sorts fine in both album and artist and the select by letter thing works as expected.

I did make a couple of changes in the beta that may have an effect on this, one is that we are using the articles to sort by from MC instead of the ones in JRemote (which were just A, An and The). Also, if the lists were 40 items or smaller, JRemote would not sort them at all, it will now.
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Re: Maintenance of jremote.
« Reply #39 on: September 12, 2019, 10:04:21 am »

I’m running MC25 and have been using JRemote for a few years. As a direct remote for my MC25 it is great, but there has been a consistent bug when attempting to stream my MC25 audio to my Sonos system. I continually have to delete the iPhone app and reinstall it to stop JRemote from crashing whenever it is opened when I have a particular Sonos speaker selected as output. And it is odd as I may have been playing the Sonos with the JRemote app successfully prior to closing it, but when reopening the app it just crashes instantly.

Not sure if this is a Sonos problem or JRemote but it’s super annoying. Having to delete and reinstall the JRemote app every time this happens is a huge pain.
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Re: Maintenance of jremote.
« Reply #40 on: September 12, 2019, 10:33:19 am »

I’m running MC25 and have been using JRemote for a few years. As a direct remote for my MC25 it is great, but there has been a consistent bug when attempting to stream my MC25 audio to my Sonos system. I continually have to delete the iPhone app and reinstall it to stop JRemote from crashing whenever it is opened when I have a particular Sonos speaker selected as output. And it is odd as I may have been playing the Sonos with the JRemote app successfully prior to closing it, but when reopening the app it just crashes instantly.

Not sure if this is a Sonos problem or JRemote but it’s super annoying. Having to delete and reinstall the JRemote app every time this happens is a huge pain.
It's a Sonos problem.  Please read AndrewFG's comments, beginning here:
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,122128.msg845338.html#msg845338
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