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mickyrock

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Mac Version slow
« on: September 04, 2020, 11:29:10 am »

The Mac version of JRiver Media Center is totally inoperative for me.

Very slow. Too Slow.

With the same discs and libraries with the Windows version it is agile and effective.

I have seen comments about it that even commented on delays of 20 seconds, but I have never been able to read a professional answer on how to speed up the Mac version at once.

I can't understand it.
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Re: Mac Version slow
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2020, 11:37:19 am »

That's not normal.  What version are you using?

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Re: Mac Version slow
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2020, 12:30:01 pm »

Version 26.0.107 64 b-bit and I always have the other options disabled.

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Re: Mac Version slow
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2020, 12:32:30 pm »

Where is your media?  Where are the MC library files?

Anything unusual about the setup?
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Re: Mac Version slow
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2020, 12:38:56 pm »

No, no nothing inusual...it's the same configuration like windows 10. It's the same location, same setup..... For this I don't can undertand
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Re: Mac Version slow
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2020, 01:03:52 pm »

Are the files local?  Or on a NAS?  Or USB drive?
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Re: Mac Version slow
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2020, 01:54:25 pm »

The files are in all disk’s types. NAS; usb on mac, and a hard disk on windows. The same that the windows jriver version.
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Re: Mac Version slow
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2020, 02:23:33 pm »

Try unplugging the drives.  You could back up your library first or set up a test library.
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Re: Mac Version slow
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2020, 04:04:12 am »

I don't understand what I'm going to achieve by unplugging the drives.

Can you explain me?

On the other hand I do not know the option of test library
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Re: Mac Version slow
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2020, 07:08:11 am »

You'll find out if something related to the drives is slowing things down.  Or not.  It will help narrow down the problem.
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Re: Mac Version slow
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2020, 12:31:35 am »

I know, but I remember you that the Discs are the same in the PC. And with the PC JRiver it's agil and very fast.
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Re: Mac Version slow
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2020, 08:36:53 am »

You might try the newly released Media Center 27, it's actually much faster performance-wise on macOS now.

https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,126878.0.html
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Re: Mac Version slow
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2020, 04:39:14 pm »

You might try the newly released Media Center 27, it's actually much faster performance-wise on macOS now.

https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,126878.0.html
I wish that were true for me. My JRMark actually went down a couple hundred points from MC26.0.107 to MC27.0.12. Did I do anything wrong?
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Re: Mac Version slow
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2020, 05:07:19 pm »

JRMark benchmark score aside, does the app feel more snappy, especially when doing things like scrolling and whatnot? Even in Retina Mode it's pretty snappy.
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Re: Mac Version slow
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2020, 11:14:54 am »

I am afraid scrolling is still not smooth and rather jerky. How do I tell MC not to use Retina Mode?
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Re: Mac Version slow
« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2020, 11:27:04 am »

View > Skin > uncheck Retina Mode.
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Re: Mac Version slow
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2020, 02:57:29 pm »

View > Skin > uncheck Retina Mode.
Thank you, that's cool. Will check that out.
EDIT: Turning Retina Mode off didn't make scrolling smoother for me. Bummer.
Oh, and just or the sake of others trying it, it's under View > Size
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Re: Mac Version slow
« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2020, 09:57:52 am »

JRMark benchmark score aside, does the app feel more snappy, especially when doing things like scrolling and whatnot? Even in Retina Mode it's pretty snappy.

It feels identical to me.  Scrolling is still herky jerky.  It's as usable as it always has been.  It's just unsophisticated feeling.  I had my hopes up based on your report, but it seems exactly the same to me as it has since MC20, in terms of UI responsiveness and especially SCROLLING.  Even with the mouse and the scroll bar, MC can't keep up.  It lags behind the position of the scroll bar and jumps and jerks as it moves. 

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Re: Mac Version slow
« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2020, 10:53:43 am »

That's rather odd, because for me scrolling is much, much faster in both retina mode and non-retina mode in MC27 for Mac.
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Re: Mac Version slow
« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2020, 08:27:59 am »

I kinda/sorta recall you don't have Mac hardware.  Maybe I remember wrong?

My hardware is rather capable:  2014 Retina iMac with quad 4GHz i7s, 32GB RAM, and Radeon R9 M295X graphics. Running OS X Mojave, 10.14.6 . 

On the other hand, one would expect any Mac that can run a modern web browser, and have that web browser smoothly scroll through a page with images on it, to be able to smoothly scroll with a native Mac app like JRiver Media Center.

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Re: Mac Version slow
« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2020, 08:32:43 am »

I have similar hardware and no matter how many windows/tabs I have open (reasonably) in any other software, there is never an issue with scrolling smoothness. This happens only in MC.
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