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[Alex B]

Swiss German locales

Fortunately for Jaguu the Swiss German locale uses the "dot" . There is still a problem if comma is used as I wrote in the 11.0.184 bug thread.

Here is a nice link about the differences in locale settings:
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/globalization/topics/locales/currency_examples.jsp

(and the main page of the previous: http://www-306.ibm.com/software/globalization/index.jsp)

[Uwe]

Thanks to all, that's it !
The Problem with "comma" and "dot" starts with the beginning of MC 11.
I had problems with my own vizualisations. See here:

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=23422.msg163160#msg163160

but i never get an answer for it.

Changing from comma to dot, all is fine.

Thanks again
Uwe

[Alex B]

The "comma" is on by default perhaps for hundreds of millions of Windows users. It is not a new thing. I have had it since the first Windows version I used, the v. 2.1. (Or should I write 2,1?) I don't think the manipulating of the locale settings would be a relevant option for many of the newcomers during the "find/try/buy MC" process.

First of all, the newcomers would not even know that it must be changed when they evaluate MC. They would just notice the ugly visualizations.

I could let it be the "dot" on my main MC PC, "the media hub". It has an English OS and it is rarely used with office programs etc. I would not like to change that on my other PCs. They are used with numerous programs and many of them use the decimal symbol extensively. Changing it to dot would make the "comma" decimal key on my numeric keyboards nonfunctional, change too many other things and be nonstandard in my locale.

Somehow every other program I have is happy with the "comma" and I have quite many. Also, the MC10 visualization dll files are happy with it.

This not a biggie, but it is annoying since it worked better earlier.

[Uwe]

Yes, of cause this should be fixed. I'm just glad with this work-around, because MC is only working on my Jukebox-PC, and this is country-independend

[JimH]

We know that the comma is the default for millions of users.  Visualizations have been working until recently.

We'll find the problem.

[Alex B]

Thanks Jim,

I was just a bit worried, because Matt stated in the 11.0.184 thread that the dot should be used. Probably he meant it as a temporally solution.

[Matt]

I was just a bit worried, because Matt stated in the 11.0.184 thread that the dot should be used. Probably he meant it as a temporally solution.

You must use a dot as the decimal in visualization studio equations.  This will not change, since a comma has a predefined meaning inside visualization studio functions.

[Matt]

Just to be clear, all stock visualizations should now work as expected on any locale assuming you have MC 11.0.184 installed.  If you see otherwise, please let us know.

(it's possible that home-made visualizations will need to be tuned for the reason I listed in the previous post)

[Alex B]

Hmmm. I have never adjusted the visualizations. I have always used the defaults.


This is the difference I see:



Here the Windows decimal symbol is dot.





I closed MC, changed the decimal symbol to comma and restarted MC.

EDIT

I tried to change the bar width and spacing values, but it does not save them. They are back to zero when Vis Studio is opened again.

[Matt]

Thanks for the clarification.

We'll try to have it fixed next build.

[Berto]

Thanks for the clarification.

We'll try to have it fixed next build.

Just installed build 11.0.188.
Problems with 2D visualizations are gone now. Thanks.