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[slerch666]

One thing I'd love to be able to do with J River Media Center is have the ability to perform a CD copy with the same level of error checking and validation available in Exact Audio Copy. I use EAC to create archival quality digital copies of my music and would love to be able to do it all from the same interface, rather than having to dump via EAC and then import into Media Center 16.

Just an idea.

[lepa]

MC's secure ripping mode is quality. It'll also write logs for you.

[BryanC]

Yes, MC's mode is secure. It's just as good as EAC.

[BartMan01]

Agreed.  Once I tried using secure mode in MC I haven't touched EAC except for problem disks where I just wanted to try an alternative, and even then if MC couldn't get it successfully, EAC couldn't either.

[MrC]

I switched ages ago.  While I theoretically liked the idea of accuraterip verification, in the end I decided on a simple principle: If I'm unable to hear an issue with ripped files, that's good enough.  If I do hear one, there's always re-ripping a disc... no big deal.

Practically speaking, experience during nearly 1400 rips* has demonstrated issues to be so extremely rare, that all the harrumph and huzzah is unworthy of a lost moment.

[slerch666]

Hmm.

OK. I'll give MC16's secure mode a try then. If everyone here thinks it's quality matches or exceeds or is "almost" there, then that's good enough for me.

Thanks again!

[MrC]

Here's more info so you can rest (and rip) comfortably:

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=15912.msg107672#msg107672
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=65116.0
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=59572.0

[slerch666]

That really does help a lot to alleviate some fears.

I've been using EAC frequently for a few years, actually. I've gotten used to the way it does things. I just didn't think that another program could perform as well/better than it did/does. It wasn't until about a month ago that I heard about MC and once I did, I was just as skeptical that it really could be as good as everyone who has reviewed it seems to claim. Seeing is believing I suppose.

No more EAC for me; it's become an unnecessary step (or will do once I really compare rips personally, though I anticipate MC will perform perfectly).

[MrC]

Hang onto EAC for this one purpose...  sometimes you'll find no CD track info.  Use EAC's ability to obtain track info from freedb or other, and then have it write out to cdplayer.ini.  Then quit EAC and right-click the CD within MC and have MC read from cdplayer.ini.  Correct the fields (be accurate) and right click Submit info to the internet (which will help other MC users by submitting to YADB).

edit: What Glynor says below...

[glynor]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think MC now hits freedb if YADB lookup fails.

[MrC]

Ah, darn, scrap entirely what I wrote.  I completely forgot about this.  I've used EAC once or twice in the past year to download info that was not found in YADB, and apparently not looked up in freedb.  EAC found it, and I just has this, and past habit, in mind.

Sorry for the noise.

[JimH]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think MC now hits freedb if YADB lookup fails.

You're correct.

[glynor]

You're correct.

Thanks.  I wasn't actually 100% sure.

I never rip CDs anymore. 

[tunetyme]

I still use EAC.  I am concerned about getting an accurate rip.  I've ripped well over 4 thousand CDs and there are problems with new CD's that re ripping doesn't take care of.  A new feature with EAC is CUE Tools database.  With Cue Tools you can verify you past rips (it is very helpful if you have a cue sheet) and they have the ability to correct a bad rip.  It's still pretty new and the database isn't very large yet but I am sending everything I have through it.

I know I have a bug about accuracy.  I have found about 10% of new discs have enough errors to cause an inaccurate rip.  Now I can correct it with cue tools.

I do not question the quality of MC's rip.  It just doesn't tell me if I have a problem like accurate rip so I can address the problem.  I have returned so many CD's (hundreds) because they are poor quality that several stores hate to see me come in.

Tunetyme