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[zybex]

ZRatings downloads them to a folder defined in Settings, if you enable it. However, they won't magically show up in TheaterView or Toolpips, you have to adjust your View code to point to the correct folder.

This is different for posters - MC natively supports a Movie Poster, so ZRatings can just push it to the database. For Actors pics however, there's no native support, so ZRatings just downloads the pictures to a folder you specify, and then you need to have the Theater View code (or tooltip) pointing to that image (based on the [Actors] field values). Lepa's code already does all that, you probably just need to adjust it to your Actor folder location.

[lello]

Yes, of course, and I must also check that the folder with the photos of the actors has exactly the same name in the "original name" tag.

If, for example, the original name says "Mission: Impossible" I have to remove the colon because the folder does not accept that character.

What I wanted to tell you, is that for some movies the process of downloading photos to the actors folder does not work.

[zybex]

Can you give me an example of such a movie? Is the folder not created at all? It's normal for it to be renamed to remove invalid chars. You can also configure ZRatings to name the folder after the IMDBID instead of movie name.

[lello]

The whole Mission Impossible series for example: the photos on Zratings are there but it doesn't create the folder for me.
I mean can I have the folder named directly with the original name of the film? How do you do?

[zybex]

Hi Lello,
That's actually a bug on ZRatings. There are some chars that cannot be used on file/dir names, such as the colon and back/fwd slash. So if the movie has these in the name, ZRatings will fail to create the folder.

I'll add a fix to automatically rename these folders to valid ones - however, this makes it harder to then write an expression in MC that points to the matching folder (no easy way around that).

You have 2 options:

1. Change the "save actor thumbnails to this folder" option in ZRatings to "c:\your\own\folder\Actors\$imdb" - this will create a folder using the IMDBid of the movie instead of the Title. Not pretty, but always works... you then need to use [IMDB id] on the MC expression to match it.

2. Wait for an updated MCRatings ZRatings. It will automatically take care of invalid folder names, but then you have to complicate the MC Expression a bit so that it also changes the [Name] in the same way.

[zybex]

Another option is to have ZRatings write the Actors to the movie folder itself, by setting the option to "$moviedir\Actors"
In this case, you would need to adjust the MC expression to "[filename (path)]\Actors\".

Advantages: simpler, and actor pics are now next to the movie
Disadvantages: the NAS/Disk will wakeup when you're browsing to show the pictures (but it may do that already for you anyway)

[lello]

You have 2 options:

1. Change the "save actor thumbnails to this folder" option in ZRatings to "c:\your\own\folder\Actors\$imdb" - this will create a folder using the IMDBid of the movie instead of the Title. Not pretty, but always works... you then need to use [IMDB id] on the MC expression to match it.

While waiting for a ZRatings update,  I tried option 1.

The folder is created, and now I have the IMDB code instead of the name. There is therefore the annoyance of having to manually intervene to rename the folder, but for the moment that's okay.

Thank you

[zybex]

Why rename the folder? You still won't be able to set it to "Mission: Impossible", so the actors still won't show up in MC.
You should just leave it and change the path in Lepa's code to use [IMDb ID] instead of "[Name] (Year)" for the actors. Or use Method 3

[lepa]

If you change your actor images folder in ZRatings to

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C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center 27\Data\Tooltip\Actors\$imdbthen just change path folder variable in MC to something like this and MC should search the actor images from movies imdb id folder.

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Save(src="tooltip:Actors////////[IMDb ID]////////[L1]", v_CastImageLoc)
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,119385.msg898878.html#msg898878

[lello]

Why rename the folder?

Because by replacing [Name] (Year) with [IMDb ID], a folder named with the IMDb code is created.

If I make this change,

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Save(src="tooltip:Actors////////[IMDb ID]////////[L1]", v_CastImageLoc)I don't clearly see the photos I downloaded earlier.

While waiting for updates, I continue to use option 1

[zybex]

True, you would need to rename every existing folder to follow the same pattern.
But again, "Mission: Impossible" won't work without an expression change.

[lepa]

But again, "Mission: Impossible" won't work without an expression change.

It will if/when you'll fix ZRatings  (at least if the fix is the same as MC's clean function does.....)

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Clean([Original Title],3)https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/String_Manipulation_Functions#Clean

[zybex]

That's a good idea Lepa, I'll make it compatible. Thanks!

[lepa]

I'ill contact your supervisor about your great customer service   

[zybex]

You keep saying things like that and people keep thinking I work for JRiver. Maybe I should ask for a Christmas bonus or something 

[lello]

Momoa missing: it seems you are missing actors which have multiple roles. These are named like this: "Jason Momoa [Arthur Curry, Aquaman]". Maybe Lepa's expression is truncating it at the comma, so it doesn't match the filename.

There is always the problem of actors with double roles still unresolved.

For example, I can't upload a single photo from the entire X-Men series as they all have dual roles

[zybex]

Upload? There's no upload going on, unless you're contributing to TMDb.

Dual roles are working fine, though note that some XMen movie titles also have a colon. You need to debug and provide more info about your problem:
- does the actor picture get downloaded? What's the filename?
- does it get stamped by Magick? What's the filename then?
- does it show on Explorer but not visible in MC?
- what's the content of the [Actors] field?
- what expression are you using to show the actors?

[lello]

Sorry, I expressed myself wrong, I meant upload photos to MC from the actors folder.
For other questions, some photos from the htpc during the day.

[lello]

This is the expression for visualizing the actors

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Save(src="tooltip:Actors////////Clean([Original Title],3) /([Year]/)////////[L1]", v_CastImageLoc)
and this is the folder with the photos of the actors

[img width= height= alt=Actors" border="0]https://i.ibb.co/rZ5SGwn/Actors.png[/img]

[img width= height= alt=Actors" border="0]https://i.ibb.co/gWXwsLc/Actors.png[/img]

How do you debug?

[zybex]

How do you debug?

Playing around in Zelda.

I figured out the problem: it's MC cutting part of the Actor value because it thinks it's a Field name due to the square brackets:

[Director]             = "Bryan Singer"
[Director,0]           = "Bryan Singer"; mode 0 is mostly for Date fields, to return the raw numeric value
[Director, something]  = "Bryan Singer" - the "something" is correctly ignored

Now, when MC deals with unknown fields, it outputs the field name but wrongly truncates the second part:

[unknownField]         = "[unknownField]"
[unknownField, label]  = "[unknownField]" - the ", label" is lost!

ZRatings writes these multi-role actors as "Actor Name [Role1, Role2]". So when processing these strings, MC thinks that that part within brackets is a field and tries to resolve it... but since there's no field called "Role1", it just outputs [Role1] and ignores the rest:

Hugh Jackman [Logan, Wolverine]      = "Hugh Jackman [Logan]"

This is something that JRiver can easily(?) fix. In retrospect, the square bracket was a bad choice for the Actor roles, I'm open to suggestions to change it.
As a workaround, the expression can be changed to rename the Actors so that it doesn't trigger this issue - you can see the result in the screenshots below.

Problematic expression:

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Listmix2(<img src=[v_CastImageLoc]>,0,[actors])
Fixed - replaces [ with {, applies ListMix, then replaces back the { to [

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replace(Listmix2(<img src=[v_CastImageLoc]>,0,replace([actors],/[,{)),{,/[)

[lello]

But that problematic expression you say, I don't seem to have it.
I only have

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Save (src = "tooltip: Actors //////// Clean ([Original Title], 3) / ([Year] /) //////// [L1]", v_CastImageLoc)and not

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Save (src = "tooltip: Actors //////// Clean ([Original Title], 3) / ([Year] /) //////// [L1]", v_CastImageLoc) / Listmix2 (<img src = [v_CastImageLoc]>, 0, [actors])
Should I add your correct expression to the one I currently have?

P.S. I'm getting a headache

[zybex]

My code is just an example. The View code is spread out across several files and fields, and there's a Listmix() somewhere in there.

Lepa can take it from here. I'll ask Matt to fix this issue in MC too.

[lepa]

@lello
Updated https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,119385.msg898878.html#msg898878 for you ("L: Director + Actors + Writer" script edited)

[lello]

Thanks lepa, very kind. I'll try it tomorrow

[JimH]

Is there anything we could do to support this work better?  We appreciate what you've done so far.

[zybex]

Hi Jim,
It would be nice to be able to create Theater View Themes that could be installed by users as a single package, similar to MC Themes. All files, code, etc, would reside in a single subfolder, and the user could then just switch themes at will. However, this is not trivial at all as there are so many moving pieces, and currently the Actor pics are an outside thing. It would be a major feature, but perhaps its a nice thing for the roadmap.

[lello]

@lello
Updated https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,119385.msg898878.html#msg898878 for you ("L: Director + Actors + Writer" script edited)

I made the change, and now you can also see the photos of the actors with double roles.

Thank you

[Outlaw Audio]

Hi Jim,
It would be nice to be able to create Theater View Themes that could be installed by users as a single package, similar to MC Themes. All files, code, etc, would reside in a single subfolder, and the user could then just switch themes at will. However, this is not trivial at all as there are so many moving pieces, and currently the Actor pics are an outside thing. It would be a major feature, but perhaps its a nice thing for the roadmap.

+1, I'll second that

[zybex]

The issue with MC truncating unknown fields is resolved in MC beta 28.0.20. "Hugh Jackman [Logan, Wolverine]" is no longer truncated.

Thanks Matt!

[lello]

Hi Jim,
It would be nice to be able to create Theater View Themes that could be installed by users as a single package, similar to MC Themes. All files, code, etc, would reside in a single subfolder, and the user could then just switch themes at will. However, this is not trivial at all as there are so many moving pieces, and currently the Actor pics are an outside thing. It would be a major feature, but perhaps its a nice thing for the roadmap.

+1

[lepa]

Made some aspect ratio icons. Similar than before but currently without text description

[arcspin]

Nice and clean icons!

[lello]

I added the 2.20 and 2.00 icons provided by arcspin (thanks again), but standardly with the files with AR-calculated 2.00, it loads me the 2.20 icon.

I reset, checked icons, restarted MC etc. but always upload that icon.

This is my situation, where am I wrong?

[img width= height= alt=AR-calculated" border="0]https://i.ibb.co/pLm9Hdf/AR-calculated.png[/img]
[img width= height= alt=field-variables" border="0]https://i.ibb.co/dKD5Mq1/field-variables.png[/img]
[img width= height= alt=TAG" border="0]https://i.ibb.co/09WJ0q8/TAG.png[/img]

[lepa]

That "field variables" is not used and it can be deleted. it is just made there if one doesn't want to create actual fields he can use variables instead of fields.

aspect ratio is shown in "L: TECH ICONS". Did you change arcspin png image names to correspond filenames used in the expression? I'm using ...Tooltip\AspectRatio\1.78.png etc naming scheme so if you havent changed the expression your naming should follow that naming scheme or you can change the expression. You could export your Movie WIP template using that manage button so it would be easier to se what's going on

[lello]

Yes, I have renamed the arcspin icon files, so much so that the 2.20 icon is regularly loaded.
Tomorrow I check in "L: TECH ICONS" (now I'm not close to the htpc) and if I don't solve it, I'll turn you my WIP film template.

Thank you

[lello]

edit

[lepa]

Everything seems to be correct if your [AR-Calculated] field is populated correctly in MC. At least in your earlier screenshot it seems to be filling up correctly. Could check that your AR-Calculated corresponds those aspect ratio image filenames? image names at least seems to be as expected in your picture.

I also cleaned up your template a little bit as it had all kind of my old/test stuff which is not relevant for you. I can share it for you later if you like.

[zybex]

Lello, are your AR images in \Tooltip\AspectRatio\ or \Tooltip\Video\AspectRatio\ ?
The location needs to match the expression.

[lepa]

Moved oscar statue to the ratings row and cleaned up the obsolete stuff. Also hid L: Stars row (don't know if you wanted to have same actor info twice? you can still activate it by changing Show: to "Show only in Large View") and fixed audio/subtitle languages row (only subtitle languages relevant to me is shown. You can change it to your preferred languages)

jmone also made some automatic field creation to SoT but I haven't adapted to that at least for now but if you decide to use SoT's automatically created field you need to change [AR-Calculated] to [Aspect Ratio (Crop)]

Awards must be in tooltip/Award folder (folder included in zip file)

[lello]

I found out what my problem was, but it was so stupid that I am ashamed to say it (the years are starting to be felt )

Thanks lepa for the new template, I think I'll try it out after finally installing the new v28.

I haven't tried the latest version of SOT yet but if I do, I will change the field as you indicated.

[lello]

P.S. wouldn't this discussion be better to fix it in the discussion of the latest v28? You are doing a great job, and you deserve more exposure

[lello]

I finally installed MC28 and then updated the Tooltip folder.
I uploaded the new template and everything is perfect, except for the audio and subtitles section.
I understood that I had to create a new tooltip / language folder in which to put the icons of the various countries, renaming them from "country-english" to "english" but it only works for the audio language but not the subtitles and honestly I did not understand if I have to create another folder

[lepa]

Tooltip/Language/English.png

etc.

Subtitles only show english and finnish subtitles as they are only ones relevant for me but I can help to edit it for your convenience. Probably not practical to list all of them as there can be so many of them that one row isn't enough.

E: someone may have nicer flags but these have suited me fine

E2: Played a little with oscar trophy. On the image it is not anything ready and I'm not sure what i would like to do with. Also tried to show as many oscar icons as won but there are some titanics which have too much of them to be shown here

[lello]

Ok, I understand what I need to change. I try to do it myself

The indication of the number of Oscars won is interesting

[lello]

I tried to edit with the languages ​​placed in your Language folder

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If(Or(Compare(Length([Audio Language]),>,0),Compare(Length([Subtitles]),>,0)),<font [v_HEADER_SIZE] [v_HEADER_COLOR]>LANGUAGES<//font><br>/  <font [v_HEADER2_COLOR]>AUDIO  Replace(ListMix(<img src="tooltip:Language////[L1]" height="20" valign="middle">, 1, [Audio Language]),;,/  )   SUBTITLES  <//font>If(IsEqual([Subtitles],Italian,8),<img src="tooltip:Language//Italian" height="20" valign="middle">,)If(IsEqual([Subtitles],English,8),/  <img src="tooltip:Language//English" height="20" valign="middle">,),)If(IsEqual([Subtitles],German,8),/  <img src="tooltip:Language//German" height="20" valign="middle">,)If(IsEqual([Subtitles],Chinese,8),/  <img src="tooltip:Language//Chinese" height="20" valign="middle">,)If(IsEqual([Subtitles],Danish,8),/  <img src="tooltip:Language//Danish" height="20" valign="middle">,)If(IsEqual([Subtitles],Finnish,8),/  <img src="tooltip:Language//Finnish" height="20" valign="middle">,)If(IsEqual([Subtitles],French,8),/  <img src="tooltip:Language//French" height="20" valign="middle">,)If(IsEqual([Subtitles],Japanese,8),/  <img src="tooltip:Language//Japanese" height="20" valign="middle">,)If(IsEqual([Subtitles],Korean,8),/  <img src="tooltip:Language//Korean" height="20" valign="middle">,)If(IsEqual([Subtitles],Norwegian,8),/  <img src="tooltip:Language//Norwegian" height="20" valign="middle">,)If(IsEqual([Subtitles],Spanish,8),/  <img src="tooltip:Language//Spanish" height="20" valign="middle">,)If(IsEqual([Subtitles],Swedish,8),/  <img src="tooltip:Language//Swedish" height="20" valign="middle">,)

[lepa]

Updated your template:
"L: Audio & Subtitles" have v_SubtitleLanguages variable where you can choose the the subtitle languages (semicolon separated list) you want to show from [Subtitles] field. You of course then need flag image for those languages in the tooltip/Language folder

[lello]

Thanks lepa, as soon as I can I try.

@zybex I have a problem with Zrating. I tried to change the folder where to save the photos of the actors in the settings after updating from MC27 to MC28, but it tells me that I cannot access to make changes: how is it possible?

[zybex]

It's likely to be the folder permissions. The default permissions on 'C:\Program Files' prevent normal users/apps from writing files there. So if you're trying to use 'C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center 28\Data\Tooltip', you need to do one of these:
- run ZRatings as Administrator so that it can write to that folder
- change the folder Security permissions to give Write/Full access to your user account

This folder location for Tooltip data is actually a bad choice from JRiver's part, these files should have been in %LocalAppData% instead.

[Outlaw Audio]

This folder location for Tooltip data is actually a bad choice from JRiver's part, these files should have been in %LocalAppData% instead.

Having used JRiver for awhile in a networked environment, I think a better choice would be to make the "tooltip" directory a totally custom location so that specific graphics items can be shared by the server and all the clients from a networked location rather than sharing a directory local only to a single machine.

[lepa]

This folder location for Tooltip data is actually a bad choice from JRiver's part, these files should have been in %LocalAppData% instead.

Agreed. MC server should serve tooltip data to clients on need bases/at one go just like it does for other art. Client would then cache data to its own LocalAppData.