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TiVo HMO & MC9.0.147 Broken?
« on: April 11, 2003, 10:03:40 am »

It seems on my system MC9.0.147 is broken when using HMO on both systems.

when i revert back to 9.0.146 it works again.

so something seems broken to me in 9.0.147
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Re: TiVo HMO & MC9.0.147 Broken?
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2003, 10:17:57 am »

care to elaborate on "something"?  What is/isn't working... do you get error messages?
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Re: TiVo HMO & MC9.0.147 Broken?
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2003, 10:18:02 am »

HI King,

More details: are you running the TiVo beacon etc. etc.

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Re: TiVo HMO & MC9.0.147 Broken?
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2003, 10:34:26 am »

I have tried 9.0.147 with and with out Tivo beacon

what happens is nothing, tivo does not see Media Server.

Tivo does see the Tivo beacon when it is running.

like i said 9.0.146 works 9.0.147 does not work at all.
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Re: TiVo HMO & MC9.0.147 Broken?
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2003, 10:46:09 am »

I just installed MC 9.0.147, after it was loaded i went to Tivo and wint to see if it was listed and this is from the media sever log.

this is without Tivo Beacon Loaded

04/11/03 14:43:55 - sharer starting
04/11/03 14:43:55 - Initializing server.
04/11/03 14:43:55 - Server initialized
04/11/03 14:43:55 - sharer ready to accept connections
04/11/03 14:43:55 - Started auto response thread on port 5556.
04/11/03 14:43:55 - TiVo HTTP ready for connections
04/11/03 14:44:27 - TiVo HTTP: received a connection
04/11/03 14:44:27 - TiVo HTTP: ready for another connection
04/11/03 14:44:27 - connection closed?
04/11/03 14:44:27 - TiVo HTTP: Invalid http request


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i do not get this error message with 9.0.146
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Re: TiVo HMO & MC9.0.147 Broken?
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2003, 10:47:02 am »

what does Media Server say?
I tried 147 with and without TiVo Beacon, and both worked for me

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Re: TiVo HMO & MC9.0.147 Broken?
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2003, 10:48:12 am »

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what does Media Server say?
I tried 147 with and without TiVo Beacon, and both worked for me

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Re: TiVo HMO & MC9.0.147 Broken?
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2003, 10:52:49 am »

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see above


Ooops! When you are running without TiVo beacon, do you mean you are running on port 80?

1) Start the TiVo Beacon (control panel->Admin Tools->Services->TiVo Beacon). Make sure Media Server is set to port 8080. Try it.

2) Stop the TiVo Beacon, make sure Media Server is set to port 8080, try it.

3) If neither of these work, I'll have to think - it looks like something might be changing the http request somehow...

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Re: TiVo HMO & MC9.0.147 Broken?
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2003, 10:59:00 am »

I have Media Server Set To:

[X] Support Tivo HMO on Port 8080 With Beacon On Port 2190)

If i set Media Sever To:

[X] Support Tivo HMO on Port 80

I Get Error Message

Failed To Blind. The Port is not available please enter an available port number or choose automatic port selection in the network options.

automatic port selection is selected.

=========================

>> it looks like something might be changing the
>> http request somehow...
yep, thats what i was thinking. and it must be in the changes from 9.0.146 to 9.0.147
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Re: TiVo HMO & MC9.0.147 Broken?
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2003, 11:02:31 am »

Failed To Blind  :)

Here is your problem - your server is blind.

It looks like something is already running on port 80. Are you running any king of server? Did you try to reboot?

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Re: TiVo HMO & MC9.0.147 Broken?
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2003, 11:03:54 am »

>> Are you running any king of server?
>> Did you try to reboot?

maybe be i got that error because the wb browser was open.
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Re: TiVo HMO & MC9.0.147 Broken?
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2003, 11:05:24 am »

Just to confirm: you tried 8080 both with TiVo Beacon and without TiVo Beacon. RIght?

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Re: TiVo HMO & MC9.0.147 Broken?
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2003, 11:10:04 am »

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Just to confirm: you tried 8080 both with TiVo Beacon and without TiVo Beacon. RIght?

j


Yes...

I just turned off "AdsGone" ad blocked the error is gone for can not Blind.

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just checked with and without Tivo beacon and i get this (adsgone not running).

changed back to:

[X] Support Tivo HMO on Port 8080 With Beacon On Port 2190

04/11/03 15:08:09 - TiVo HTTP: received a connection
04/11/03 15:08:09 - connection closed?
04/11/03 15:08:09 - TiVo HTTP: Invalid http request

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reinstalled MC9.0.146 it works again
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Re: TiVo HMO & MC9.0.147 Broken?
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2003, 11:14:08 am »

reinstalled MC 9.0.147

the error

04/11/03 15:12:39 - TiVo HTTP: received a connection
04/11/03 15:12:39 - connection closed?
04/11/03 15:12:39 - TiVo HTTP: Invalid http request

only happens as soon as I click on the controler to go into the Tivo HMO option to look at music&pictures
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Re: TiVo HMO & MC9.0.147 Broken?
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2003, 11:19:01 am »

reinstalled mc9.0.146

04/11/03 15:17:29 - sharer starting
04/11/03 15:17:29 - Initializing server.
04/11/03 15:17:29 - Server initialized
04/11/03 15:17:29 - sharer ready to accept connections
04/11/03 15:17:29 - Started auto response thread on port 5556.
04/11/03 15:17:29 - TiVo HTTP ready for connections
04/11/03 15:17:47 - TiVo HTTP: received a connection
04/11/03 15:17:47 - TiVo HTTP: ready for another connection
04/11/03 15:17:47 - unknown header <TiVo_TCD_ID>
04/11/03 15:17:47 - unknown header <TiVo_SW_VER>
04/11/03 15:17:57 - TiVo HTTP: received a connection
04/11/03 15:17:57 - TiVo HTTP: ready for another connection
04/11/03 15:17:57 - unknown header <TiVo_TCD_ID>
04/11/03 15:17:57 - unknown header <TiVo_SW_VER>
04/11/03 15:17:57 - TiVo HTTP: received a connection
04/11/03 15:17:57 - TiVo HTTP: ready for another connection
04/11/03 15:17:57 - unknown header <TiVo_TCD_ID>
04/11/03 15:17:57 - unknown header <TiVo_SW_VER>
04/11/03 15:17:58 - TiVo HTTP: received a connection
04/11/03 15:17:58 - TiVo HTTP: ready for another connection
04/11/03 15:17:58 - unknown header <TiVo_TCD_ID>
04/11/03 15:17:58 - unknown header <TiVo_SW_VER>
04/11/03 15:17:59 - TiVo HTTP: received a connection
04/11/03 15:17:59 - TiVo HTTP: ready for another connection
04/11/03 15:17:59 - unknown header <TiVo_TCD_ID>
04/11/03 15:17:59 - unknown header <TiVo_SW_VER>
04/11/03 15:18:02 - TiVo HTTP: received a connection
04/11/03 15:18:02 - TiVo HTTP: ready for another connection
04/11/03 15:18:02 - unknown header <TiVo_TCD_ID>
04/11/03 15:18:02 - unknown header <TiVo_SW_VER>
04/11/03 15:18:03 - TiVo HTTP: received a connection
04/11/03 15:18:03 - TiVo HTTP: ready for another connection
04/11/03 15:18:03 - unknown header <TiVo_TCD_ID>
04/11/03 15:18:03 - unknown header <TiVo_SW_VER>
04/11/03 15:18:06 - TiVo HTTP: received a connection
04/11/03 15:18:06 - TiVo HTTP: ready for another connection
04/11/03 15:18:06 - unknown header <TiVo_TCD_ID>
04/11/03 15:18:07 - unknown header <TiVo_SW_VER>
04/11/03 15:18:07 - TiVo HTTP: received a connection
04/11/03 15:18:07 - TiVo HTTP: ready for another connection
04/11/03 15:18:07 - unknown header <TiVo_TCD_ID>
04/11/03 15:18:07 - unknown header <TiVo_SW_VER>
04/11/03 15:18:08 - TiVo HTTP: received a connection
04/11/03 15:18:08 - TiVo HTTP: ready for another connection
04/11/03 15:18:08 - unknown header <TiVo_TCD_ID>
04/11/03 15:18:08 - unknown header <TiVo_SW_VER>
04/11/03 15:18:08 - TiVo HTTP: received a connection
04/11/03 15:18:08 - TiVo HTTP: ready for another connection
04/11/03 15:18:08 - unknown header <TiVo_TCD_ID>
04/11/03 15:18:08 - unknown header <TiVo_SW_VER>
04/11/03 15:18:10 - TiVo HTTP: received a connection
04/11/03 15:18:10 - TiVo HTTP: ready for another connection
04/11/03 15:18:10 - unknown header <TiVo_TCD_ID>
04/11/03 15:18:10 - unknown header <TiVo_SW_VER>
04/11/03 15:18:10 - TiVo HTTP: received a connection
04/11/03 15:18:10 - TiVo HTTP: ready for another connection
04/11/03 15:18:10 - unknown header <TiVo_TCD_ID>
04/11/03 15:18:10 - unknown header <TiVo_SW_VER>
04/11/03 15:18:13 - TiVo HTTP: received a connection
04/11/03 15:18:13 - TiVo HTTP: ready for another connection
04/11/03 15:18:13 - unknown header <TiVo_TCD_ID>
04/11/03 15:18:13 - unknown header <TiVo_SW_VER>
04/11/03 15:18:13 - TiVo HTTP: received a connection
04/11/03 15:18:13 - TiVo HTTP: ready for another connection
04/11/03 15:18:13 - unknown header <TiVo_TCD_ID>
04/11/03 15:18:13 - unknown header <TiVo_SW_VER>
04/11/03 15:18:17 - TiVo HTTP: received a connection
04/11/03 15:18:17 - TiVo HTTP: ready for another connection
04/11/03 15:18:17 - unknown header <TiVo_TCD_ID>
04/11/03 15:18:17 - unknown header <TiVo_SW_VER>
04/11/03 15:18:17 - TiVo HTTP: received a connection
04/11/03 15:18:17 - TiVo HTTP: ready for another connection
04/11/03 15:18:17 - unknown header <TiVo_TCD_ID>
04/11/03 15:18:17 - unknown header <TiVo_SW_VER>
04/11/03 15:18:17 - TiVo streaming F:\My Music CD Collection\James Taylor\James Taylor - Greatest Hits - 09 - How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved By You).mp3
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Re: TiVo HMO & MC9.0.147 Broken?
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2003, 11:20:52 am »

Quote

just checked with and without Tivo beacon and i get this (adsgone not running).

changed back to:

[X] Support Tivo HMO on Port 8080 With Beacon On Port 2190



This isn't what I meant:

1) In Media Server, select "Support TiVo HMO on Port 8080 With Beacon on Port 2190". Don't change this setting at all.

2) Stop Media Server. Go to Control-Panel->Admin Tools->Services. Find "TiVo Beacon". Make sure it is running (start it if you have to).

3) Start MS and try  to connect.

4) Stop Media Server

5) Go back to Control Panel->Admin Tools->Services TiVo beacon and stop it.

6) Start  MS and try to connect.

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Re: TiVo HMO & MC9.0.147 Broken?
« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2003, 11:29:51 am »

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This isn't what I meant:

1) In Media Server, select "Support TiVo HMO on Port 8080 With Beacon on Port 2190". Don't change this setting at all.

2) Stop Media Server. Go to Control-Panel->Admin Tools->Services. Find "TiVo Beacon". Make sure it is running (start it if you have to).

3) Start MS and try  to connect.

4) Stop Media Server

5) Go back to Control Panel->Admin Tools->Services TiVo beacon and stop it.

6) Start  MS and try to connect.

j



>> 1) In Media Server, select "Support TiVo HMO on Port
>> 8080 With Beacon on Port 2190". Don't change this
>> setting at all.

I figured that i did change it back, BTW

>> 2) Stop Media Server. Go to Control-Panel->Admin
>> Tools->Services. Find "TiVo Beacon". Make sure it is
>> running (start it if you have to).
it is running

>> 3) Start MS and try  to connect.
tried, No Connect

>> 4) Stop Media Server
ok

>> 5) Go back to Control Panel->Admin Tools->Services
>> TiVo beacon and stop it.
ok

>> 6) Start  MS and try to connect.
Ok

04/11/03 15:26:11 - TiVo HTTP: ready for another connection
04/11/03 15:26:11 - connection closed?
04/11/03 15:26:11 - TiVo HTTP: Invalid http request
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Re: TiVo HMO & MC9.0.147 Broken?
« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2003, 11:40:41 am »

This probably won't help either: Did you tell TiVo your IP address?

I'm stuck for now. My 147 (and others) work fine.

I may have a debugging version for you to try later if you don't mind.

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Re: TiVo HMO & MC9.0.147 Broken?
« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2003, 11:46:16 am »

>> I may have a debugging version for you
>> to try later if you don't mind.
SURE

debug to logfle would be nice.

also if and maybe this should be added to the system info page so when users post there sys info you can see the router and adapter info if possible.

since the Tivo program shares fine, and MC9.0.146 shares fine.

it must be some changes in 9.0.147 that my recomended (by Tivo) linksys system does not like.
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Re: TiVo HMO & MC9.0.147 Broken?
« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2003, 03:24:21 pm »

>> I may have a debugging version for you to
>> try later if you don't mind.
I guess this did not happen.

I did try 9.0.148, no luck

went back to 9.0.146 it works.

back when i was in 1st grade i had to stay behind, I hope i don't have to stay in first grade for ever and i can move to other grades like all good beta testers.
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Re: TiVo HMO & MC9.0.147 Broken?
« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2003, 04:13:04 pm »

No, it didn't happen. I tried, but not fast enough.

148 is the same as 147 for Media Server.

Monday...

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« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2003, 04:36:01 pm »

Ok

My plans for this weekend

1. Go to work for a few hours (maybe 1 or 2 hours)
2. plant my garden

egg plant
tomatoes
cucumbers
hot peppers
yellow bell peppers
green bell peppers
squash

strawberries are coming in
peaches are starting to grow

I am hoping for some cherries this year with like 10 cherry trees I would think the birds could let me have one or two.

I know everyone is on the edge of there seats so I will update you tomorrow on my progress
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Re: TiVo HMO & MC9.0.147 Broken?
« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2003, 04:58:25 pm »

Gardens are cool. I might not be on the edge of my seat, but gardens are cool.

j

p.s. I wouldn't mind some hot peppers :)

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Re: TiVo HMO & MC9.0.147 Broken?
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2003, 11:11:54 am »

Well Here Is What I Planted Today.

3 Kinds of Tomato Plants 27 plants in all.

Four of them 1 1\2 feet tall right now with flowers

Peppers

2 Red Bell Peppers
2 Yellow Bell Peppers
10 Green Bell Peppers
4 Hababero Pepper Plants (Imported from Jamaica from a Friend who works for BASF Chemical, The seeds came from his mom's garden who has now passed on)

Other:

4 Egg Plants
6 Yellow Hot Finger Peppers (not sure how they will do)

I have about 50 Strawberry plants now and they are flowering so I should get some strawberries to mix with some Vodka soon.

The rest will need to wait till next weekend (they are not ready for planting out side).
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Re: TiVo HMO & MC9.0.147 Broken?
« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2003, 12:35:26 pm »

My Tivo with HMO cannot see MS either.  I was previously using Tivo publisher without any issues.

I have MS configured to share by default, using 8080 and a beacon on 2190.

My Tivo can't see MS either automatically, or when I enter the MS IP address manually on the Tivo.

Here is the MS log file:

04/13/03 13:34:25 - cannot connect
04/13/03 13:34:25 - tcp_write failed error=10038
04/13/03 13:34:25 - bad version
04/13/03 13:34:25 - sharer starting
04/13/03 13:34:25 - Initializing server.
04/13/03 13:34:25 - Server initialized
04/13/03 13:34:25 - sharer ready to accept connections
04/13/03 13:34:25 - Started auto response thread on port 5556.
04/13/03 13:34:25 - TiVo HTTP ready for connections
04/13/03 13:35:08 - received a connection
04/13/03 13:35:08 - ready for another connection
04/13/03 13:35:08 - private sharing thread started
04/13/03 13:35:08 - unknown header <TiVo_TCD_ID>
04/13/03 13:35:08 - unknown header <TiVo_SW_VER>
04/13/03 13:35:08 - Client tried to download an unsupported file type.
04/13/03 13:35:08 - sharing thread exiting

Media Center Registered 9.0.148 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows XP  Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
AMD Athlon 1333 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 523 MB, Free - 282 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1145 (xpsp2.021108-1929)wnaspi32.dll: N/A
Ripping /   Drive G:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: No /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive G: PIONEER  DVD-RW  DVR-104    Addr: 1:0:0  Speed:8  MaxSpeed:8  Use MJ Engine:Yes
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: No
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None

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Re: TiVo HMO &amp; MC9.0.147 Broken?
« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2003, 08:58:53 pm »

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This probably won't help either: Did you tell TiVo your IP address?


FWIW I had to give TiVo my server's IP address to get connected after I upgraded from 9.0.146 to 9.0.147, whereas with 9.0.146 TiVo detected the server. In both cases I had TiVo beacon off.

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Media Center Registered 9.0.147 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 3 (Build 2195)
Intel Pentium III 863 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 129 MB, Free - 7 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.81 / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
Shell32.dll: 5.00.3502.6144wnaspi32.dll: 2.0.1.50 , Nero Aspi Library, Copyright © 1999-2002 Ahead Software AG / Aspi32.sys: 4.60 (1021)

Ripping /   Drive D:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: No /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  No burners found.
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: No
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None
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Re: TiVo HMO & MC9.0.147 Broken?
« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2003, 09:45:34 pm »

Media Server in MC9.0.147 worked for me with or without TiVo Beacon running.  I haven't tried 148 yet though I have it installed.

I've noticed that Media Server crashes if it gets something unexpected.  It's error recovery mechanism could be a bit better.
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Re: TiVo HMO & MC9.0.147 Broken?
« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2003, 07:51:40 am »

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My Tivo with HMO cannot see MS either.  I was previously using Tivo publisher without any issues.

I have MS configured to share by default, using 8080 and a beacon on 2190.

04/13/03 13:35:08 - Client tried to download an unsupported file type.


SeanC - something is very strange here. The error message (unsupported file type) is not a TiVo response, it is a Media Server response to a Media Server Client. Make sure  (under options->network) that either auto port selection is checked, or your manual port is NOT 8080. Make sure that no Media Center is trying to connect at the same time you are testing. Finally, try running Media Server with the TiVo beacon stopped, and then started again.

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Re: TiVo HMO & MC9.0.147 Broken?
« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2003, 07:53:17 am »

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Media Server in MC9.0.147 worked for me with or without TiVo Beacon running.  I haven't tried 148 yet though I have it installed.

I've noticed that Media Server crashes if it gets something unexpected.  It's error recovery mechanism could be a bit better.


An understatement :)

I haven't seen any crashes here though, can you be more specific?

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Re: TiVo HMO & MC9.0.147 Broken?
« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2003, 08:12:04 am »

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I haven't seen any crashes here though, can you be more specific?


It was just kind of a warning as supposed to a specific crash.  The only times I've gotten it to crash recently was when I was using Internet Explorer to access pages that TiVo normally wouldn't access.

I can't remember what I tried specifically off the top of my head, but I believe it was valid according to the TiVo Music and Photo protocols.
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Re: TiVo HMO & MC9.0.147 Broken?
« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2003, 09:26:13 am »

I didn't implement the full protocol. A lot of stuff is not needed for actual use. These (or anything invalid) should return a 404 page.

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