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[bhahn]

I have a brand new Singxer SU-6 DDC and Denafrips Ares 12th-1 DAC that are both capable of DSD 512 (8X) playback. By bit-streaming I can successfully play DSD 64 (1x), 128 (2X) and 256(4X), in WASAPI (ASIO doesn't seem to work at all), but when I try to play DSD 512 (8X) I get an error message. See attached screenshot. I'm using a brand new audiophile computer with Windows 11 Professional.

Thanks for any help.

Bill

[Awesome Donkey]

You have to use ASIO and native DSD instead of WASAPI and DoP to output DSD512. Every DAC I've seen lacks the PCM sample rate needed to support DSD512 over DoP (and even if it did there's a chance MC doesn't support it). For reference it'd have to support a PCM sample rate of 1411.2 kHz in order to support DSD512 over DoP.

Select the ASIO audio output, go into the device settings and make sure DSD bitstream in DoP format is not checked. Then make sure DSD bitstreaming is enabled (and DSP Studio > Output Format > Output Encoding is set to None).

[bhahn]

I followed your instructions and now I/m getting the hissing sound on playback on all resolutions including 512.

[Awesome Donkey]

Make sure internal volume and system volume are set to 100% otherwise this can happen. It's required for some DACs unfortunately, hopefully you have a volume control knob or something like that.

[bhahn]

Internal & system volumes appear to be @ 100%. Still no dice. See attached screenshots.

I have no volume control knob on either my DDC or DAC. Only exterior volume control I have is on my pre-amp.

Thanks.

[JimH]

Did you try the manufacturer?  Even setup instructions for other software might help.

[JimH]

I added a link to the USB device in your first post.  They call it a USB Audio Bridge.

I couldn't find the 12th-1 DAC model.  This was the closest:  https://www.denafrips.com/ares15th

Why do you need the USB device?  Can't you connect directly to the DAC?

[bhahn]

I'm using the Singxer SU-6 to convert the USB feed to a much cleaner I2S feed to my DAC via HDMI.

The 12th-1 DAC was replaced with the 15th version just a couple of weeks ago. I've only owned these two products for a couple of months.

[JimH]

I'm using the Singxer SU-6 to convert the USB feed to a much cleaner I2S feed to my DAC via HDMI.

As a test, please see if it works without the SU-6.  That should tell you where the problem is.

[AGAWA]

SU 6
Technical indicators:
Sample rate supported by each output interface:
PCM: 44.1KHz, 48KHz, 88.2KHz, 96KHz,176.4KHz, 192KHz, 352.8KHz, 384KHz

DSD: 2.8 MHz (DSD64) - DoP, native
         5.6 MHz (DSD128) - DoP, native
         11.2 MHz (DSD256) - DoP, native
         22.5 MHz (DSD512) - native

Bit width: up to 32 bit over I2S output
Up to 24 bit over S/PDI, AES/EBU

[Awesome Donkey]

Yeah, I agree with Jim, make sure if it works without one (or the other) and if it does, it's something about the combo of both.

It *appears* both support DSD512 via native DSD, but if this applies to the connection outputs you're trying to use is anyone's guess and likely will take testing of individual parts and in unison.

[bhahn]

Looks like Jim is correct. I took the Singxer out and all resolutions of native DSD played great. I've emailed Singxer's rep asking for a refund. If that comes through I'll probably go with Denafrips' DDC, the IRIS- https://www.denafrips.com/iris

I'll keep you all posted. Thanks for the help.

Bill