Topic: Re:Media Center 11 Prices (old thread) (Read 22841 times)

KingSparta · « **Reply #50 on:** September 02, 2004, 02:27:13 pm »

I however would not recomend standing on the desk top.

JustinChase · « **Reply #51 on:** September 02, 2004, 04:19:39 pm »

Quote from: KingSparta on September 02, 2004, 02:27:13 pm

I however would not recomend standing on the desk top.

Agreed, I have no desire (or endurance) to play in the NBA.

TimB · « **Reply #52 on:** September 02, 2004, 04:42:56 pm »

Quote from: JimH on September 01, 2004, 08:36:15 pm

Quote from: TimB on September 01, 2004, 08:26:44 pm
I couldn't resist so I payed anyway but I am still concerned.
You should be.

If I can still use MC10, which was my concern, I guess not?

-=Tim=-

X-Files · « **Reply #53 on:** September 02, 2004, 05:15:07 pm »

If I purchase an upgrade to MC11 now will the license work for the final version.

The Muffin Man · « **Reply #54 on:** September 02, 2004, 06:44:40 pm »

Just registered v11.
I've been around since the ~v5. Great job!!!
I wish I had it to play on my Mac.
It blow iTxxxx away on the pc and mac.

Griff · « **Reply #55 on:** September 07, 2004, 05:21:21 pm »

I have read that mc10 and mc 11 can exist on the same mach.

If so , how do I go about doing this?

I want to buy MC11, just to see the improvements.

Griff

PS Have a lic. for 9 and an upgrade lic. for 10

JimH · « **Reply #56 on:** September 07, 2004, 05:48:12 pm »

Back up your existing library.

Uninstall MC 10, install the latest build of 10 from this board. It's currently 161. Older versions won't work independently.

Then install MC 11. Install it to a different folder. Set up a new library -- don't convert your old one.

Griff · « **Reply #57 on:** September 07, 2004, 05:49:37 pm »

Thanks

Griff

BullishDad · « **Reply #58 on:** September 07, 2004, 07:25:03 pm »

Quote from: JimH on September 07, 2004, 05:48:12 pm

Back up your existing library.

Uninstall MC 10, install the latest build of 10 from this board. It's currently 161. Older versions won't work independently.

Then install MC 11. Install it to a different folder. Set up a new library -- don't convert your old one.

I am close to doing the above, please clarify for me.
1. After I install MC 11 can I restore from the backed up Library?
2. Will any tag changes made in one version affect the other, and vice versa?
3. Does the Dell DJ plug-in work in MC 11?

Thanks.

JimH · « **Reply #59 on:** September 07, 2004, 08:08:28 pm »

Restoring from backup -- probably, but make sure your data is in a different directory.

Tag changes will be separate.

Dell plug-in -- maybe. I don't know.

Folbo · « **Reply #60 on:** September 09, 2004, 02:13:28 pm »

Just found the list of 'features'
Cannot see the point in version 11 , it seems to be bug-fixes and extreme features, but nothing mention abount relational databases etc. Am I missing something

If not, haveing tested version 11 ... now I have to pay ... how do I go back to version 10 whilst waiting for version 12!

Sauzee · « **Reply #61 on:** September 09, 2004, 02:57:43 pm »

Quote from: JimH on September 07, 2004, 05:48:12 pm

Back up your existing library.

Uninstall MC 10, install the latest build of 10 from this board. It's currently 161. Older versions won't work independently.

Then install MC 11. Install it to a different folder. Set up a new library -- don't convert your old one.

Don't convert your old one? Does that mean anything in the MC 10 library which isn't stored in the tags will be lost?

How about the database of mp3 and audio CD's I have painstakingly built in MC10?

Alex B · « **Reply #62 on:** September 09, 2004, 03:22:47 pm »

You can just restore the MC 10 backup in MC 11. Everything will be there including all dates etc.

Sauzee · « **Reply #63 on:** September 09, 2004, 04:20:28 pm »

Quote from: Alex B on September 09, 2004, 03:22:47 pm

You can just restore the MC 10 backup in MC 11. Everything will be there including all dates etc.

But isn't that what Jim told us not do do

Quote

Set up a new library -- don't convert your old one.

Or have I misunderstood what he meant?

JimH · « **Reply #64 on:** September 09, 2004, 04:24:44 pm »

If you install MC11 and it converts your old data in your MC10 directory, you won't be able to use MC10 with that data.

A backup does get made during conversion to MC11, but you've then got to restore it later in order to use MC10.

So it's best to have a backup and a copy of your MC10 data in a new directory before you start the process.

Just try it, please. This is one of those things that can get too scary if you think about it too long. It isn't scary at all. Just take a few precautions with your MC10 data.

Alex B · « **Reply #65 on:** September 09, 2004, 06:42:53 pm »

I'll try to explain how I keep my libraries separate:

I have MC10 installed. I have it in "C:\Soft\MJB\" (you can guess where the folder name came from).

I install MC11 to "C:\Soft\MC11\".

I don't import files to an MC11 library or point a new library to an MC10 library folder. I create a new empty library to another location. Then I restore my latest MC10 library backup to that empty library in MC11. After that the new library is not connected to my MC10 library anyhow.

Currently I make all permanent changes in MC10. I take care that I don't change my media files in MC11. If I do I use temporally copies.

When it is time to update the MC11 library I restore a new MC10 backup.

AnalogRoaming · « **Reply #66 on:** September 10, 2004, 08:51:50 am »

Quote from: Alex B on September 09, 2004, 06:42:53 pm

I'll try to explain how I keep my libraries separate:

I have MC10 installed. I have it in "C:\Soft\MJB\" (you can guess where the folder name came from).

I install MC11 to "C:\Soft\MC11\".

I don't import files to an MC11 library or point a new library to an MC10 library folder. I create a new empty library to another location. Then I restore my latest MC10 library backup to that empty library in MC11. After that the new library is not connected to my MC10 library anyhow.

Currently I make all permanent changes in MC10. I take care that I don't change my media files in MC11. If I do I use temporally copies.

When it is time to update the MC11 library I restore a new MC10 backup.

That's exactly what I do.

jaguar.x · « **Reply #67 on:** September 22, 2004, 05:54:16 pm »

Where can I buy the $10 dollar upgrade??

JimH · « **Reply #68 on:** September 22, 2004, 05:59:22 pm »

Check the first post in the thread on MC11 releases. It has a link to prices.

You need to download, install, and then purchase from MC Help.

Doof · « **Reply #69 on:** September 22, 2004, 07:37:48 pm »

How do we get the upgrade price if we don't have MC10 installed? I wiped my drive, and then just installed MC11 (no MC10). I have an MC10 license, though.

Also the link you mention takes you to this thread. So that was kind of a circular statement...

JimH · « **Reply #70 on:** September 22, 2004, 09:37:00 pm »

OK, I'm confused.

Install MC10. Restore your license for it.

Install MC11. Buy the upgrade.

Luigi1943 · « **Reply #71 on:** September 23, 2004, 03:04:14 am »

I've never downloaded V11, I have no time now to install it, but I've paid all the upgrades from v8 to v10 and I'm willing to help localizing V11 for Italy, as I've already told Jim.... then I'll pay the upgrade "blind".... my only problem is that at the moment I don't even have the time to discover how I can do that, then please give me the right directions to do the purchase.

Thanks for working for us

Luigi

urlwolf · « **Reply #72 on:** September 27, 2004, 08:56:12 pm »

I'm in. The new doc management, and the new browser are worth their weight in gold. Good job!

sjchmura · « **Reply #73 on:** October 11, 2004, 02:11:56 pm »

Confused:

Even though "final prices may change" if I buy now for $35 I will not be asked for more money when v11.0 final is out - right???

JimH · « **Reply #74 on:** October 11, 2004, 02:19:16 pm »

If you buy now, you will have a full license for the MC11 we release.

brookb · « **Reply #75 on:** October 17, 2004, 04:20:38 pm »

Up until today, I was using MC9 with an MC8/MC9 license. I read a little of the MC11 pricing info yesterday (top of this thread), but I didn't read the whole thread or study it in any detail. I came away with the impression that I could update to MC11 for $15. But I figured I'd be better off using MC10 for now, as it was supposed to resolve ASIO issues I was having, as it was known to be stable (not alpha or beta).

So today I saw that MC10's upgrade price was also $15. I assumed (you know what that means) that upgrading to MC10 would be the same as upgrading to MC11. I could buy the MC10 upgrade now and use it on MC11 later. So I bought it, and it fixed the ASIO problem I was having. However, the 192k upsampling I wanted to use didn't sound so great. I started looking in the forum for upsampling issues and found out that it was implemented incorrectly in MC10 (lots of aliasing issues), but that it was fixed in MC11. So I figured its time to try MC11, even if it is alpha status.

So I found this thread again and read it in detail. Now I can see that the MC11 upgrade is not the same as the MC10 upgrade. The MC10 upgrade I paid for today doesn't cover MC11. If I go to MC11 today or tomorrow, I don't even really need the MC10 upgrade. Any chance of converting today's MC10 $15 upgrade into the $15 MC11 upgrade, or have I screwed myself to the tune of $10 more to go from MC10 to MC11?

Thanks

DaleC21 · « **Reply #76 on:** October 17, 2004, 11:34:53 pm »

ok, tonight I just paid for 10xxx then had to try the alpha 11
and purchase it

only thing I can say, either you are not charging enough or the
rest of the world is charging waaaaay too much

so far I only played with the TV and DVD stuff and I have to quit for the night

the whole package is awesome

thank you .
..Dale

adamsp70 · « **Reply #77 on:** October 19, 2004, 08:00:07 am »

OK - so i have a licence for v10, but only have v11 running.

After the latest upgrade it tells me my 30 day trial has expired (no problem) so i need to find a way to do the $10 upgrade.

"BUY NOW" takes me toa web page for the full $35 purchase
"Tell me more" tells me about Media Jukebox (!!!)
"Restore" needs a licence file

OR i go to the MC website and click "Purchase" which allows me to upgrade from 9 to 10, but no further.

So how do i do it please?

JimH · « **Reply #78 on:** October 19, 2004, 08:25:13 am »

Are you trying to use the Buy option in MC's Help menu?

adamsp70 · « **Reply #79 on:** October 19, 2004, 08:28:59 am »

Nope - cos i can't get to it now it's expired :-(

Don't mind what the method is, as long as you can point me in the right direction!

adamsp70 · « **Reply #80 on:** October 19, 2004, 09:47:07 am »

It's very quiet in this office, so i've installed MC11 on a clean machine and gone to Help->Buy.

It pops up this page: https://rover.jriver.com/cgi-bin/buy.cgi?productid=23

This again only talks about the full $35 price and not the $10 upgrade.

What am i mising here?

JimH · « **Reply #81 on:** October 19, 2004, 09:48:52 am »

It isn't recognizing your old license.

LonWar · « **Reply #82 on:** October 19, 2004, 09:50:34 am »

Quote from: adamsp70 on October 19, 2004, 09:47:07 am

It's very quiet in this office, so i've installed MC11 on a clean machine and gone to Help->Buy.

You need to first install the version of MC that matches your licence, Register it, then install 11 and then buy.

adamsp70 · « **Reply #83 on:** October 19, 2004, 10:02:10 am »

I can install it in a seperate directory so that it doesn't bugger up my v11 database?

adamsp70 · « **Reply #84 on:** October 19, 2004, 10:31:40 am »

Aha!

So the instructions should be (if you are in my scenario of not having a v10 installation handy).

Help
Install Licence
Restore from Internet
Put in your v10 licence, and then it will recognise and ask you to upgrade.

Easy when you know how, but not immediately obvious to the likes of me....

brookb · « **Reply #85 on:** October 20, 2004, 12:11:11 am »

Well, Jim was nice enough to help me out with my problem. I upgraded from MC8/9 to MC10, but needed to upgrade to MC11 instead because it had a better resampler. Jim rescinded and refunded my $15 MC10 upgrade, and I was prepared to upgrade to MC11 for $15 instead.

I installed MC11 and went to the purchase page. The 'rescinded' MC10 was still installed as was the 'legal' MC9.1. The MC11 purchase quoted me the full $35. So I uninstalled MC10 and tried again. It still quoted me $35. I tried to uninstall MC9.1, but it said MC10 was installed and MC9 was not. It wouldn't let me uninstall MC10, which wasn't installed, and there was no way to uninstall MC9.1 which was installed. Something rotten going on there.

So I reinstalled MC9.1 over the top of itself, and the computer still said MC10 was installed but not MC9.1. MC9.1 still showed as licensed. I tried purchasing MC11 again. Still $35.

I tried several other things to try to get this to work. I also wasted two more of my renews of my MC8/9 license, and that didn't help. Finally, I tried "Install from Internet", and put in my MC8/9 registration code. It gave me some complaint about the license being old, and did I want to upgrade. I said Yes. Price $35. However, I looked at the URL of the page it had referred me to. The end of the URL showed an 'upgradefrom' field indicating the Registration Code that was being upgraded from, and it was NOT my MC8/9 registration code. Instead, it was the MC10 license registration that had been rescinded. So, I pasted the real MC8/9 registration code in there where the wrong code was, and Voila, I finally got the $15 registration.

Bottom line: something is wrong. I shouldn't have to paste in the registration code. Most people probably won't have to deal with this because they aren't dealing with rescinded codes, but it is a heads up for anyone who goes through anything similar. If the price being quoted to you isn't what you expect, check the 'upgradefrom' field in the URL of the web page that quotes you the upgrade price. If it doesn't match your registration code, then paste your registration code in there to get the proper upgrade pricing.

PS: Glad to have MC11. So far it has run well. And the new resampler definitely sounds better than the one in MC10. However, as others have said, it is a MAJOR CPU hog. I don't know how 'optimized' the code is, but if you're looking for some code to optimize to help performance, that's a good place to start. Don't even think about resampling unless you're running a 2GHZ processor, and then expect it to use 75-95% of your CPU. (assuming 192k resampling and 4 channel output).

Alex B · « **Reply #86 on:** October 20, 2004, 04:10:54 am »

brookb,

Good you got it at last. This is of topic, but why do you resample? It is generally considered as bad. You could start a new thread for that if interested. I would have something to say/ask/maybe answer too.

Alex

JimH · « **Reply #87 on:** October 20, 2004, 07:11:49 am »

brook,
Were you using IE as your default browser?

brookb · « **Reply #88 on:** October 20, 2004, 11:03:44 am »

My default browser is Mozilla Firefox. However, I can't remember if MC brought up IE or Firefox when I tried to purchase. Any chance that had something to do with it?

ralphberner · « **Reply #89 on:** October 26, 2004, 10:31:46 pm »

How can i upgrade MC10 to MC11. It is not possible through the "Puchase Media Center"-Page, isn't it?

JimH · « **Reply #90 on:** October 27, 2004, 07:39:35 am »

Quote from: ralphberner on October 26, 2004, 10:31:46 pm

How can i upgrade MC10 to MC11. It is not possible through the "Puchase Media Center"-Page, isn't it?

Install MC11. Then go to MC's Help/Buy.

packyb · « **Reply #91 on:** November 26, 2004, 08:39:28 pm »

I upgraded from MC10 to MC11 on 11/21/04 and am about to order a new laptop. I want to put MC11 on both machines, but my notebook won't arrive for another 10 days - so I'll be outside the 14 day window. If I were smarter, I would have waited to upgrade to MC 11 until my notebook was en route.

Am I misunderstanding the policy? Will I have to use a restore license to do this (when my notebook arrives)?

Thanks.

LonWar · « **Reply #92 on:** November 26, 2004, 08:52:01 pm »

Each Lic. is good for 14 days. After that you will need to use a restore.
I think you get 10 of them each year..

Robert S · « **Reply #93 on:** December 14, 2004, 02:41:55 am »

I've originally bought a license for MJ8, then upgraded to version 9, now I want to upgrade to version 11.

I want to upgrade from 9 to 11 for that 15$ price that is published here.

My current MC11 version is "unregistered". Then I try to install my version 9 license, and MC11 then tells me that I must upgrade this license to version 11, and direct me to a purhcase page where I'm expected to pay 35$.

Plase guide me to how to upgrade.

/Robert

Alex B · « **Reply #94 on:** December 14, 2004, 03:18:42 am »

MC11 checks if you have had an earlier registered version installed (MJ8, MC9, MC10). Only if it finds a previous registration it will give you the upgrade price.

If you have a new OS installation you must install a previous version and restore the license first. After that you can install MC11 and buy the upgrade.

Robert S · « **Reply #95 on:** December 14, 2004, 03:30:06 am »

Hi Alex.

I did have MC9 installed and then I upgraded it to MC11, but I still ended up at the 35$ page. Obviously, I must have done something wrong in the upgrade. I'll re-install version 9 and try again.

Thanks

/Robert

Robert S · « **Reply #96 on:** December 14, 2004, 03:40:16 am »

I uninstalled MC11
Installed MC9
Installed my Version 9 licence and checked that it _was_ registered properly.
Installed MC11 in the same folder as MC9 was installed.
Clicked "Buy Mediacenter"

Was re-directed to a 35$ price.

What now?

/Robert

Alex B · « **Reply #97 on:** December 14, 2004, 04:04:30 am »

It should have worked.

I guess you must wait for an answer a few hours until a new workday starts in Minneapolis...

Robert S · « **Reply #98 on:** December 20, 2004, 03:39:03 am »

Can anyone please help me! Still haven't heard anything!

/Robert

JimH · « **Reply #99 on:** December 20, 2004, 07:06:46 am »

Does MC9 say it is registered? Check in MC Help/Registration Info.

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