Topic: ipod photo album art (Read 11264 times)

dmarcus48 · « **on:** June 08, 2005, 03:56:09 pm »

Just checking in, are we STILL waiting for album art support for the photo ipod? I'm really hating itunes.

SteveG · « **Reply #1 on:** June 08, 2005, 04:21:09 pm »

Yes. Sorry for the delay.

LonWar · « **Reply #2 on:** June 10, 2005, 07:08:09 am »

Quote from: dmarcus48 on June 08, 2005, 03:56:09 pm

Just checking in, are we STILL waiting for album art support for the photo ipod? I'm really hating itunes.

Yep, ITunes is a bummer all right.....

Any idea of the time frame Steve? Month or longer/Less...

Thanks

lOth · « **Reply #3 on:** June 30, 2005, 06:58:34 am »

is there any plan to implement this feature a little sooner now that the "iPod color" is out?

SteveG · « **Reply #4 on:** June 30, 2005, 08:28:46 pm »

I do not know when exactly this will be implemented. Sorry. I will update when I am able.

Steve

bman001 · « **Reply #5 on:** August 22, 2005, 04:28:40 pm »

Another long time MC user (bought every version since v8 ), and new iPod Photo owner here. No doubt about it, iTunes is a bloated, clunky program. Lack of coverart/photo support in MC11 is the ONLY thing keeping me from booting iTunes out of my life forever.

So basically I'm just another MC user dropping by to nag about coverart support.

And as soon as you've got that done you can get started on the RSS Podcast subscription plugin.

I don't ask for much.

SteveG · « **Reply #6 on:** August 24, 2005, 08:57:49 am »

Thanks for the bump. The changes that were made (but are not yet released) to make iPod compatible with the latest iPod firmware made a big step towards being ready to get cover art supported. It really is coming.

Steve

lOth · « **Reply #7 on:** August 27, 2005, 02:15:27 am »

Amen

pank2002 · « **Reply #8 on:** August 27, 2005, 12:05:47 pm »

I have got this cool photo-thing for my iPod which let me upload pictures directly to my iPod without a computer. This, however doesn't help in getting my old pics on the iPod.

Steve,
Good to hear your working on it!

edit: Will the unreleased update help on the dynamic playlist matter?

SteveG · « **Reply #9 on:** August 29, 2005, 08:22:34 am »

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edit: Will the unreleased update help on the dynamic playlist matter?

Not immediately. Photo support will happen before dynamic playlists.

xerodiac · « **Reply #10 on:** September 09, 2005, 07:00:28 am »

I just bought a brandnew Ipod Nano and I am looking forward to use "Album Art" with MC too.

JimH · « **Reply #11 on:** September 09, 2005, 08:14:59 am »

Quote from: xerodiac on September 09, 2005, 07:00:28 am

I just bought a brandnew Ipod Nano and I am looking forward to use "Album Art" with MC too.

Does MC otherwise work with the Nano?

dmarcus48 · « **Reply #12 on:** September 09, 2005, 03:50:00 pm »

any idea when mc12 will be out? I'm a long time user of mc11, really like the program, would love to have the album art feature. Kinda lost my temper awhile back with you guys, sorry about that, I work in IT and know how it is to have people saying "is it fixed yet, how about now".

Hate itunes, but have been using it in order to use the album art features.

"how about now?"

Dave

BlueGlow · « **Reply #13 on:** September 10, 2005, 02:01:23 am »

Hi Steve,
I just got a new iPod 60 today. What photo features will the next big update support? Really looking forward to the new stuff. Good luck with implementation!

Thanks,
bg

SteveG · « **Reply #14 on:** September 12, 2005, 01:06:17 pm »

The work to prepare for photo support is done. The work to implement photo support remains to be done. Not sure on a timeline.

Dave, thanks for the understanding.

dmarcus48 · « **Reply #15 on:** September 13, 2005, 05:45:36 pm »

No problem Steve, sorry for the earlier tantrum.

TheWiz · « **Reply #16 on:** September 16, 2005, 02:51:52 am »

Just on the off chance, is there any kind of time envisaged for this iPod Photo plug-in to be released ? I mean ... which is more likely: 1 month, 3 months, or 6 months ?

Not nagging, just adding my heartfelt wish that this would be implemented ASAP .... it's been a long year !

P.

bman001 · « **Reply #17 on:** September 18, 2005, 08:01:33 am »

Yeah, I'd like to hear a general ETA as well, like a month vs a few months vs next year vs next version. I hope it's not the last!

SteveG · « **Reply #18 on:** September 19, 2005, 01:09:19 pm »

I don't know the answer. Sorry. It depends on many factors other than my desire to get it to you.

Steve

boadle · « **Reply #19 on:** October 02, 2005, 11:49:00 am »

just like to add my name to the list of people eagerly (yet patiently) awaiting this functionality.

Lewis

pilotbum · « **Reply #20 on:** October 16, 2005, 12:17:33 pm »

So am I to understand that 11.1 is ready and available, or is it still in testing? My copy of MC sure isn't finding it when updating. . .

lOth · « **Reply #21 on:** October 16, 2005, 03:30:19 pm »

11.1 is available but:

Since you posted in that thread I assume you're asking because you're interested in album art. I understand this feature is not available yet in the current alpha of 11.1

JimH · « **Reply #22 on:** October 16, 2005, 04:02:43 pm »

Quote from: pilotbum on October 16, 2005, 12:17:33 pm

So am I to understand that 11.1 is ready and available, or is it still in testing? My copy of MC sure isn't finding it when updating. . .

Don't use 11.1 yet unless you believe it solves a problem you're having. It is definitely still in testing.

spb · « **Reply #23 on:** October 19, 2005, 01:05:18 am »

Just purchased Color Ipod
Old Ipod worked OK w/ MC 11 (Last sinc was on older 11 release)
This one w/ ver 1.2 and Latest 11.0.316 MC is not working.
6000+songs 30 Playlists
it spends Hrs Sync'ing then hangs over night till I fininally reboot

It worked OK w/ Itunes but I woudl perfer to use MC

JimH · « **Reply #24 on:** October 19, 2005, 06:40:36 am »

Quote from: spb on October 19, 2005, 01:05:18 am

Just purchased Color Ipod
Old Ipod worked OK w/ MC 11 (Last sinc was on older 11 release)
This one w/ ver 1.2 and Latest 11.0.316 MC is not working.
6000+songs 30 Playlists
it spends Hrs Sync'ing then hangs over night till I fininally reboot

It worked OK w/ Itunes but I woudl perfer to use MC

Try this thread:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?board=8.0
and try reading the "Quick Start" thread.

11.1 may already be better with the iPod but wait if you can.

Podder · « **Reply #25 on:** October 26, 2005, 06:42:08 pm »

So the Ipod Photo has been out for a few months now...and I just got the ipod video and MC cannot do photos yet?

I don't want to use itunes but I was wondering if I could use itunes for just downloading photos to my ipod. and use MC10 for music.
wondering?
thanks.

zxsix · « **Reply #26 on:** October 26, 2005, 10:45:40 pm »

I have no songs in the itunes database.
I use itunes to copy a folder of photos to the ipod and MC syncs the music. This is with 11.1 though. 10's ipod compatibility is quite different so I can't speak to that version.

LonWar · « **Reply #27 on:** October 27, 2005, 07:12:23 am »

Quote from: Podder on October 26, 2005, 06:42:08 pm

So the Ipod Photo has been out for a few months now...and I just got the ipod video and MC cannot do photos yet?

I don't want to use itunes but I was wondering if I could use itunes for just downloading photos to my ipod. and use MC10 for music.
wondering?
thanks.

You can use MC to do the xfer, then use anapod Trial, to enable the photo's.

SteveG · « **Reply #28 on:** October 27, 2005, 12:33:17 pm »

Album art and photo support is coming. Really.

pilotbum · « **Reply #29 on:** October 27, 2005, 03:04:37 pm »

Do you have an approxamite time frame?

JimH · « **Reply #30 on:** October 27, 2005, 03:25:35 pm »

Quote from: pilotbum on October 27, 2005, 03:04:37 pm

Do you have an approxamite time frame?

No. Sorry.

risingdamp · « **Reply #31 on:** October 30, 2005, 03:08:33 am »

In another thread some kind people explained how this all works on the iPod. Apparently the iPod doesn't extract the jpegs from the files, it gets them from small thumbnails stored on the iPod somewhere. So does this mean that MC (unlike iTunes) need not be restricted by having to have cover art stored inside files? Presunably if MC is going to build these thumbnails and put them on the iPod it could do so no matter where the cover art is stored. That would be a big help for the growing number of users who use Folder.jpg or MC's cover art folder.

SteveG · « **Reply #32 on:** October 31, 2005, 01:08:48 pm »

J,

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So does this mean that MC (unlike iTunes) need not be restricted by having to have cover art stored inside files?

It appears that this will be the case.

trentino · « **Reply #33 on:** October 31, 2005, 09:13:22 pm »

Thanks for posting this Steve. In preparation for MC ipod album art support, I was halfway through adding my cover art inside every file when I read this. I think I'll back those changes out now and look into the folder.jpg option. My question is... if I turn off the "Store in file also" option and reapply the cover art to the files, will the cover art be removed from the file?

Trent

risingdamp · « **Reply #34 on:** November 01, 2005, 02:21:15 am »

Great news Steve. Thanks.

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My question is... if I turn off the "Store in file also" option and reapply the cover art to the files, will the cover art be removed from the file?

Change the option then, if the folder.jpg is still inside the album folder, just remove cover art from the files (Right click>Image>Remove) and then do a 'Quick Find in File / Cover Art Directory'. If Folder.jpg is not in the album folder and you have the image stored inside the file do the following:

1. Download and install King Sparta's plug in to 'Move to Folder.jpg'
2. Select track 1 on all affected albums and add to Playing now
3. Run the plugin to move art to folder.jpg
4. Select all affected albums and remove cover art but do not delete from hard drive.
5. Select all affected albums and do a 'Quick find...'

pilotbum · « **Reply #35 on:** November 01, 2005, 09:08:58 am »

Okay, it sounds like I may have screwed myself up. I have always had "store images in tags also" selected and then in the location rule I have in a specific folder and all my cover art has been in one folder that I've designated for this. So, from what I've read here when cover art is supported on the iPod with MC I may be SOL, am I correct? Unless I go through all my music and do what was prescribed in the above post?

Further more, how would purchased music that is all kept in one folder have the cover art shown?

SteveG · « **Reply #36 on:** November 01, 2005, 09:23:58 am »

pilotbum,

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So, from what I've read here when cover art is supported on the iPod with MC I may be SOL, am I correct?

Not sure yet. This issue is still being worked out.

Steve

trentino · « **Reply #37 on:** November 21, 2005, 05:03:57 pm »

Any word yet on whether album art will have to be stored within tags to work with MC? ... and on when MC album art support is coming?

thanks
Trent

LonWar · « **Reply #38 on:** November 21, 2005, 06:26:36 pm »

Quote from: trentino on November 21, 2005, 05:03:57 pm

Any word yet on whether album art will have to be stored within tags to work with MC? ... and on when MC album art support is coming?

thanks
Trent

It's already here, and I believe it can be either in the File, or as Folder.jpg

pilotbum · « **Reply #39 on:** November 22, 2005, 08:18:49 am »

It's here? It's not working on mine.

JimH · « **Reply #40 on:** November 22, 2005, 08:31:52 am »

It's only in the last couple of builds of 11.1 and it isn't quite right still.

ChrisRainman · « **Reply #41 on:** December 01, 2005, 04:34:32 pm »

I am frustrated with my many trials to get the cover art on my ipod photo 20GB.

I've seen some more users with that problem in that forum and it seems to be a miracle covers show up sometimes and sometimes not. As I don't believe in miracles I wonder if anybody knows the secret behind it?

I've tried it last time with MC11.1.70. I initialized ipod, I rebuilt the database...

I store cover art within the files. Any idea what I can try next?

JimH · « **Reply #42 on:** December 01, 2005, 04:37:42 pm »

It should be working in that version.

What kind of files? MP3?

What kind of art? JPG?

razumik · « **Reply #43 on:** December 01, 2005, 06:23:05 pm »

Chris,

With version 11.1.70 I am not having any problems with the cover art feature. I have checked quite a few files on the IPOD and have found no problems. When there is no art, what appears on the IPOD?... no art at all, or the regular media center icon?

Have you double-checked to make sure that each individual file that you are transferring has album artwork? I have found in the past that sometimes I think that all files have art because the it shows up under albums in the Library Browser...only to find out that only one of the files has art with it.

trentino · « **Reply #44 on:** December 02, 2005, 12:49:59 am »

I have read some people say that this feature won't work with the video ipod (5G) which is what I have. Before I try, can someone confirm whether cover art is working with this version of the ipod yet?

Thanks,
Trent

lOth · « **Reply #45 on:** December 02, 2005, 03:13:33 am »

5g should display album art correctly if you use 11.1.70 or later (current beta 11.1.71). I can't confirm since I have a 4g, but it's definitely in the list of fixes for 11.1.70

ChrisRainman · « **Reply #46 on:** December 02, 2005, 03:56:07 am »

Quote from: JimH on December 01, 2005, 04:37:42 pm

What kind of files? MP3?

What kind of art? JPG?

File format is mp3. Cover art is in the files. Is it important what type it previously was (and maybe also quality?)
I normally copy/paste them via clipboard.

Quote from: razumik on December 01, 2005, 06:23:05 pm

When there is no art, what appears on the IPOD?... no art at all, or the regular media center icon?

I only get Title-Artist-Album when playing, no frame for cover art, no media center icon.

Quote from: razumik on December 01, 2005, 06:23:05 pm

Have you double-checked to make sure that each individual file that you are transferring has album artwork? I have found in the past that sometimes I think that all files have art because the it shows up under albums in the Library Browser...only to find out that only one of the files has art with it.

Yes, I build a smartlist with only 1 track of an album that has cover art. So every song has cover art.

I forgot to mention that I also installed the latest ipod updater of 2005-11-17 (Version 1.2).

razumik · « **Reply #47 on:** December 02, 2005, 08:33:37 am »

Chris,

I have a video ipod and also store images within the file and everything is working. The only difference appears to be that the ipod updater that I used was from 10-12 and not 11-17. Do you have an older version of the updater that you could test?

ChrisRainman · « **Reply #48 on:** December 02, 2005, 09:44:38 am »

Yes, before I tried with updater 2005-03-23, so first I thought this could solve the problem. I doubt it's worth trying to get an older version?

Might it be possible I need to run the ipod with itunes at least once? Meanwhile I deinstalled itunes because this raised problems with MC: I connected ipod with a running instance of itunes in order to search the podcasting section in itunes store. Afterwards, MC crashed when starting (some weeks ago).

So, is it worth reinstalling itunes to try out?

razumik · « **Reply #49 on:** December 02, 2005, 10:05:56 am »

Chris,

The machine that I am using does not have itunes installed so it is not really necessary to use it. Before I transferred my music I used the updater to restore, and then deleted the itunesdb file...though I am not sure if this is necessary. I then initiallized in MC and everything has worked fine.

I believe that the updater from 10-12 is the first one that worked with the video so I think that that would be as far back as you could go. Which version of the updater came with your IPOD?

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