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[John Gateley]

Media Center 11.0 has been released.  PRICES are here: http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=23311

PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING:  Post bugs you are certain about here.  Anything else will be moved or deleted.  If you can't find your post here, please look in the main index.

This latest version is available here:
ftp://ftp.jriver.com/pub/downloads/music/MediaCenter110314.exe

The public release version of Media Center 11 is available here:
http://www.jrmediacenter.com/download.html

11.0.314: (9/1/05)

1. Fixed: Some MP3 flavors would take a long time if on a network.

11.0.313: (8/23/05)

1. Changed: Audible smartlist is now all audible content instead of known downloaded content.
(see below for more info on this)
2. Fixed: Audible MP3 (Format 4) titles play extraneous clips before changing to a new location (I.e. when skipping to next/
last chapter).


11.0.312: (8/16/05)

1. Fixed: Process name was failing if process was using 8.3 format for the executable name.
2. Fixed: Streaming of non-mpg file type videos was failing with library server.

New or Improved in MC 11

New database caching layer that makes many parts of MC significantly faster
Several memory and speed enhancements -- like database and skin unloading when minimizing
CUE file playback support with sample-accurate MP3 seeking
Many Theater View enhancements
Split views allow you to look at two or more views at the same time (ex. look at Media Library and Playing Now together)
Vastly improved database engine capable of handling 100,000's of files and large amounts of metadata (lyrics, bios, etc.)
Much of MC's interface can be translated to other languages
Integrated database import and update with smart broken linking repairing, and other nice features
MC now works with guest permissions on Windows 2000 / Windows XP
New view customization system with more flexibility for thumbnail size, text, etc.
Options dialogs reworked -- several small options added
Added multi-zone synchronization
Added Album Gain support
Document support with full text searching / indexing
Pane auto-sizing
Tile view allows fully customizable Track Info style tiles to be used in file lists
File tagging happens in a background thread so MC can continue to be used while it's saving tags
New Image Editor
Enhanced album grouping for pictures so session pictures are grouped automatically
Preview mode to only play the intro of songs
Video CD playback support
Audio resampling uses Shibatch's high-quality SSRC filters
ATI HDTV card support with recording and time shifting
Hauppauge WinTV PVR 150 support
UPnP device support for playback through a home theater system
Audible.com Store -- full integration (downloads, playback, bookmarks, etc.)
Sony PSP support
iPod -- Support for multiple iPods with different profiles
New file format -- Shockwave (SWF)
RAW image support (crw,cr2,nef,mrw,orf,raf,pef,dng,srf)
Multi-channel support (5.1, 7.1, etc.) for WAV and WMA files.

[Dutch Peter]

Any comments on the Image Editor remarks made in the 313 thread?

I just would like to know what to expect. 

[lalittle]

1. Fixed: Some MP3 flavors would take a long time if on a network.

Thanks for pursuing this issue -- it works MUCH better now.  The CBR folders still take a little bit longer to display compared to VBR folders, but it's on the order of 3 or 4 seconds for a typical album rather than over 20 seconds as it was before.  A 3 or 4 second delay is a reasonable amount of time that doesn't interfere with workflow.

Thanks again,

Larry

[John Gateley]

Any comments on the Image Editor remarks made in the 313 thread?

I don't know. I've seen the problems, and they will be fixed one day, but they are too complex to put in the 11.0 build.

j

[sdgrizdan]

I don't know. I've seen the problems, and they will be fixed one day, but they are too complex to put in the 11.0 build.

j

How is this too complex for this build?? Its a glaring problem that could ruin a lot of tagging and organization. Image Editor should never have been released if its problems are "too complex." What about for 11.1 or 11.5 or something so it'll be for a (hopefully) free upgrade?

[JimH]

Why don't you start a thread on this problem?  We think the bug is minor and has been there forever.

[UnknownID]

...and this would be the pi build

UnknownID

[Dutch Peter]

Why don't you start a thread on this problem?  We think the bug is minor and has been there forever.

Sorry, but I am not starting a new thread on a known (confirmed) bug.
Bugs should be reported in this thread, and so some of us did.
JRiver thinks it is minor and some of us don't.
It will not be fixed shortly. This is a clear answer.
Most of us will be using an other editor untill the fix is available.
Hopefully it will be part of an overall update on image-management enhancements.
Thnx   

[lalittle]

Sorry, but I am not starting a new thread on a known (confirmed) bug.
Bugs should be reported in this thread, and so some of us did.
JRiver thinks it is minor and some of us don't.
It will not be fixed shortly. This is a clear answer.
Most of us will be using an other editor untill the fix is available.
Hopefully it will be part of an overall update on image-management enhancements.
Thnx   

If you start a new thread on this problem and keep it active, others will be more likely to see it and post to it -- i.e. not everybody keeps checking the main "bugs" thread, but threads dealing with specific problems can catch people's eyes.  If others notice the thread and start posting to it, it will demonstrate that others are interested in having it fixed, which is the best way to encourage the programmers to look into it.  I'd recommend going ahead and starting a thread about this issue, using a title that describes it as clearly and concisely as possible.  It may be a little more work for you, but it's most likely the best way (and perhaps the only way) you'll get a solution.

Larry

[MattM]

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[Bluey]

When ripping tracks and selecting the output format for the ripped tracks filename,
selecting say [Track] - [Artist] - [Name] preset will result in the filename having the
word [track] instead of the actual track number.

Bluey.

[scthom]

When ripping tracks and selecting the output format for the ripped tracks filename,
selecting say [Track] - [Artist] - [Name] preset will result in the filename having the
word [track] instead of the actual track number.

Yeah, that's correct.  The keyword you need to use is actually [Track #].

[danrien]

I have a playback bug that almost always occurs.  Here's the situation:

I first play a playlist of any type.  Everything functions as normal.  I then play a new playlist (any kind, but music of course), and when MC is getting ready to buffer the next song playback stops.  MC11 stays running, but playback doesnt continue until I hit play/pause a couple times.  This only happens after the first song in the new playlist.  It occurs everytime I play a new playlist (after the first one of course).  Hope that wasn't too confusing.

Media Center Registered 11.0.312 -- C:\Program Files (x86)\J River\Media Center 11\

 Workstation 5.2 Service Pack 1 (Build 3790)
AMD Unknown 1003 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 1047 MB, Free - 565 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.3790.1830 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (srv03_sp1_rtm.050324-1447) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.3790.2491 (srv03_sp1_gdr.050719-1521) / Shell32.dll: 6.00.3790.1830 (srv03_sp1_rtm.050324-1447) / wnaspi32.dll: N/A
Ripping /   Drive D: _NEC    DVD_RW ND-3500AG  Mode:Normal  Type:Auto  Speed:Max
  Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
  Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No 

Burning /  Drive D: _NEC     DVD_RW ND-3500AG   Addr: 0:2:0  Speed:48  MaxSpeed:48  BurnProof:Yes
  Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: Yes
  Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None

[jgreen]

Potentially to confirm this, every now and then playback will stop abruptly at the exact point that the next track would load into buffer.  Progress bar continues with no audio and stops at the beginning of the next track.  I recall having kick started it once or twice via repeated play/stop/play/stop, but the sure method is to close program and restart.
This is with tracks loaded into  playing now, not in any sort of playlist.  Filetype = FLAC, ver 11.0.311 (disguised as .310)

[danrien]

that's exactly what happens to me.  by playlist, i meant what was currently playing.

[mickyrock]

This error appears many times in the CD Labeler:


Runtime Error
Program:.............CD Labeler.exe
This aplication has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way.
Please contact the aplication's support team for more information.

Can you help me. ??

Thanks

[brooksce]

OK I posted the following:

"I experience C++ buffer overuns every time I use this app.  It has been suggested that I post some system information via MC Help... standby one....

'Media Center Registered 11.0.309 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center 11\

Microsoft Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
AMD Unknown 2007 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 1048 MB, Free - 524 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1692 (xpsp2.050524-1552) / Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1643 (xpsp2.050311-1242) / wnaspi32.dll: 4.57 (1008) , ASPI for Win32 (95/NT) DLL, Copyright © 1989-1997 Adaptec, Inc. / Aspi32.sys: 4.57 (1008)

Ripping /   Drive G: LITE-ON LTR-12101B        Mode:Normal  Type:Auto  Speed:Max
  Drive H: MT1316  BDV212B           Mode:Normal  Type:Auto  Speed:Max
  Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: Yes /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
  Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No 

Burning /  Drive G: LITE-ON  LTR-12101B         Addr: 0:2:0  Speed:4  MaxSpeed:12  BurnProof:Yes
  Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: No /  Write CD-Text: Yes
  Use playback settings: Yes /  Normalization: None'


OK I suppose that may help someone else to understand something that will prevent the C++ Buffer Overuns that shut down the media player, but it's not leading me to any ideas.

Has anyone else had this problem?  Does anyone else know how to fix this issue?

Thanks in advance.

CB"

Awating.  Thanks again.

CB

[KingSparta]

I Did Some more testing with mpeg-2.5 files

it seems

Does Play

MPEG-2.5 Layer 3, 8 Kbit CBR, 11.0 Khz Mono

Does not play in media center (but it does in windows media player)

MPEG-2.5 Layer 3, 24 Kbit CBR, 8.0 Khz Mono

[park]

Media schedular isnt working consistently for me.
The set volume task i made suddenly stopped working for me and so i deleted it and made a new one using the same preset. then it started working again.

Then today i got woken up at 7am by a playlist called "alarm clock 1" . this is very odd.
I should have been woken up at 9 o clock by the "alarm clock 2" playlist (playlist and preset I use for weekends).

So what woke me up? I have three presets for different times of the week:
weekends (9am "alarm clock 1" playlist)
weekdays (8am "alarm clock 1" playlist)
Weds/Thurs (7am "alarm clock 2" playlist)

Today it seems that I was woken up by the wed/thurs preset, but using the playlist from the other presets!

[Tolga]

Sound only ram files cause to jump to full screen even if "Jump on play (if it has display)" is selected. Probably assumes that all ram files have video.

[bd6675]

Hello there,

      I have version 11.0.314 and my smart list is not synching correctly.  The smart list I use is this:

[Last Played]=>=40320 

This smart list should only contain songs I have not heard in the last month.  When I play a song it does not remove it from my Last Played smart list and I am not sure why.  I have changed the time around on both my ipod (60gb) and my computer (Win XP SP2) and still it does not recognize that the song has been played (in Media Center).  Any ideas?  This smart list has worked under previous versions of Media Center.  Any ideas about what is wrong?

Thanks,

BD6675

[KingSparta]

I was trying to use the FTP option, and i can only get it to work part way

once i add the first folder

"spartasoftware.com" to get to my web site it does not upload

it may have something to do with the "." in the path name

and that is required to get to may main site files.

can someone confirm this?

[Geoff Newton]

Media Center will not play Internet Radio stations that use WMV format (file type),they will play in Windows Media Player. I am using Media Center 11.0.309. Any Suggestions.

Kind Regards

Geoff
 

[NickM]

MC accessing files stored on network drive using UNC.  MC user has read only access to network drive.  Press Shift Delete and 'Delete' or 'Delete without sending to the recycle bin' both appear to work.  Obviously, they shouldn't and an error should say "Unable to Delete - insufficient network permissions" or something to that effect.

nick

[jgreen]

Under certain conditions, MC 11.0.314 will rewrite the tag info of a web radio url in playing now with the tag info of the track following.  This is the reverse of an issue solved two months ago where a web radio url would write its tag info to the following track.

1.  Bring a url into playing now.  The url I used was smoothjazz.com, which streams 128 kbps mp3.

2.  Place a track following that in playing now.  I used a wma 160.

3.  The url will display in the info window a duration as provided by the url.  Let's say 4:35.  Eventually,  the stream duration exceeds the track duration, so that 5:28 / 4:35 is displayed in the info window at the top of MC.  The progress bar stalls at the end of the bar, but the url will continue on and continue correctly updating new song info.

4.  If you pause and then resume while the url is updating its stream info (for example, going from a station break back to music), the info window will display the info for the next track, exactly as if it was buffering the next track, and then it will go to and play the next track. 

5.  The previous url now shows tag info for the next track, duplicating the next track for the name, album, and duration fields, at least..

UPDATE:

This problem seems to occur with the changing of track info and pausing.  It has also happened when 1, 2, 3 were not true, but I had simply paused (#4).

[hb]

Maximum Track Length for Audio Recorder still broken

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=28600.0

[msbb]

Hello,

Got three bugs:

1) If I rip a CD to Ogg Vorbis files, large temporary files are left behind (.tmp). There are not as many .tmp files as there are .ogg files, generally 1 less. Ogg quality set to High.

2) Not all of the ogg files end up having tag data in it - the others have to be fixed by doing an Update Tags From Library. (I know this because if I re-import them prior to updating their tags they come up as Unassigned. If I re-import them having updated their tags all is well)

3) If I synchronise to my iRiver iHP120 and I tick the All Files check box, not all the files end up on the iRiver. Several attempts at this generally gets all files across in the end. The iHP120 appears as a fixed drive, and I've done the Configure Handheld Paths thing on it.

Otherwise, very nice :-)

Matthew

[msbb]

p.s.

Re my bug 1), I have got the delete temp files option set under the encoding options.

Matthew

[JimH]

ironghat,
Your post was split to a new thread:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=29603.0

[marly421]

This tab said reply...is this how you post a bug report? Why no 'POST' tab?

Anyway, here is the bug report:

For most all CD ripping I use mp3Pro from either; Musicmatch Jukebox Plus V.10.00.4015b; or Nero Wave Editor V.2.0.034.

As is, everything is fine and sounds very good. The problem is, when creating a music CD’s with Media Center (11.0.314 registered) the same song that show to be 4 minutes long, is 6:24 long in Media Center. I checked the length against the listed CD time, Musicmatch, Nero, and Windows XP explore and all say the song length is 4:00.

Media Center does not seem to report the correct length with any mp3Pro encoded music files I have. And this is related I’m sure, the reported Bit Rate is always reported wrong.

The ripped files are normally reported as 144Kbps or 160Kbps by all programs except Media Center. The same reported 144Kbps rate will show up as 58, 73 or 99 or 124 etc etc., and the time reported in always off.

I’ve had 7:00 songs reported to be as long as 16:38 minutes and clearly if I rip a music CD I can not get a complete and correct CD with this much time differential.

I took a CD, ’15 Louisiana Zydeco Classics’ which is about 54 minutes long and ripped with mp3Pro and tried to make a copy with the same 15 songs with Media Center and it said it was 75 minutes or Janis Ian ‘Revenge’ was 51 minutes but reported back as 61 minutes.

Any ideas?

Marlene

[Alex B]

For most all CD ripping I use mp3Pro from either; Musicmatch Jukebox Plus V.10.00.4015b; or Nero Wave Editor V.2.0.034.

As is, everything is fine and sounds very good. The problem is, when creating a music CD’s with Media Center (11.0.314 registered) the same song that show to be 4 minutes long, is 6:24 long in Media Center. I checked the length against the listed CD time, Musicmatch, Nero, and Windows XP explore and all say the song length is 4:00.

Media Center does not seem to report the correct length with any mp3Pro encoded music files I have. And this is related I’m sure, the reported Bit Rate is always reported wrong.

The ripped files are normally reported as 144Kbps or 160Kbps by all programs except Media Center. The same reported 144Kbps rate will show up as 58, 73 or 99 or 124 etc etc., and the time reported in always off.

I’ve had 7:00 songs reported to be as long as 16:38 minutes and clearly if I rip a music CD I can not get a complete and correct CD with this much time differential.

I took a CD, ’15 Louisiana Zydeco Classics’ which is about 54 minutes long and ripped with mp3Pro and tried to make a copy with the same 15 songs with Media Center and it said it was 75 minutes or Janis Ian ‘Revenge’ was 51 minutes but reported back as 61 minutes.

This is not a bug. mp3PRO has never been one of the supported formats in MC. Only a few player programs support mp3PRO format. MC can decode mp3PRO files only in so-called compatibility mode at 22.050 kHz sample rate. Obviously the facts that you have used mp3PRO in VBR mode and MC sees only the compatibility part of the mp3PRO files are the causes of your problems.

Here is an old, but still informative article from the year 2001 that explains the MP3 and mp3PRO differences: http://www.digit-life.com/articles/mp3pro/. Since then the LAME MP3 encoder has been developed further. The current version has much improved quality.

Please start a new thread for further discussion on this topic.

[Alex B]

1) If I rip a CD to Ogg Vorbis files, large temporary files are left behind (.tmp). There are not as many .tmp files as there are .ogg files, generally 1 less. Ogg quality set to High.

2) Not all of the ogg files end up having tag data in it - the others have to be fixed by doing an Update Tags From Library. (I know this because if I re-import them prior to updating their tags they come up as Unassigned. If I re-import them having updated their tags all is well)

I've posted a detailed bug report here: http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=23031.0

[Shelly]

This bug has been present forever and I've posted it many times.

Library Tools ---> Clean File Properties ---> Convert Underscores to Spaces.

This function does not work!  After running, the underscores are still present and spaces have not been added.  I've tried running this independently of the other Clean functions with the identical results, that is, nothing happens.

I often have to use an external tagging/renaming app to accomplish what MC should be doing. 

If you choose not to fix this bug for MC 11, I recommend that the option for converting underscores to spaces be removed from the dialog.

[Alex B]

Previously converting underscores to spaces has always worked for me. Now I tried it without any other options selected and it didn't work. After that I selected the "Change spacing to single-spaced" option also. "Convert underscores to spaces" started to work again.