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[AoXoMoXoA]

Hi AoXoMoXoA,

you can use xpTunes with all MC/Jukebox Versions > 12.x .
Do you have any problems ? I'm using MC 14 with no problems.

Markus

 
apparently nothing a reboot could not cure 

[AoXoMoXoA]

Apparently that was not the solution.  

Even after removing xpTunes from the MC13 folder and reinstalling MC14 again
(to insure it was the last version to be installed, as this seemed to make a difference in the past with MC12/MC13), xpTunes is sometimes tied to MC13 rather than MC14 as I desire.

The determinating factor looks to be which was started running first. I've replaced MC13's Library Server with MC14's at Windows startup as a workaround.

[Messiahs]

small hints:
- If MC is started, xpTunes will use this version.
- If no instance of MC is running, xpTunes will fire a 'start' event (createObject) to MC. Now it's MC's responsibility to start the right version. If two versions are installed,  I think MC will start MC13.
You can point MC to another version by changing the regKey "{572802D5-FBF6-4C30-89CA-BDF2CE4AEC2B}" / LocalServer32 to the right version. At this time you will find a regvalue like "C:\PROGRA~1\JRiver~1\MEDIAC~3\MEDIAC~1.EXE".

[Messiahs]

@AoXoMoXoA
problem solved ?

[Messiahs]

some thoughts about "playing" screen:

click:
Artist name -> show all songs from current artist
Album name -> show all tracks from current album
Genre -> show all tracks with the same genre
Year ->  -> show all tracks with the same year
Cover -> show all albums by the same artist

[lpr]

some thoughts about "playing" screen:

click:
Artist name -> show all songs from current artist
Album name -> show all tracks from current album
Genre -> show all tracks with the same genre
Year ->  -> show all tracks with the same year
Cover -> show all albums by the same artist

It looks great!

[AoXoMoXoA]

@AoXoMoXoA
problem solved ?

I am working around it until I am ready to move to MC14 exclusively.

[Messiahs]

xpTunes & iPod touch/iPhone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YWXZqINOMc

[park]

Do you need a soundcard on the machine serving the files for this to work? I have my main instance of MC running on a HP Mediadmart server which doesnt have a soundcard.

[Messiahs]

xpTunes enables you to take control of MC from a far. If you only want to browse your library you don't need a soundcard. If you want to play songs you have to install xpTunes on a PC with a soundcard. You only need a web browser to run xpTunes, the latest video is just an iPhone optimized skin.

[adamsp70]

Hi Markus,

I’m trying to modify the wonderful xpTouch for my purposes. Everything has gone fine except for I’m trying to copy your “refresh” button in the options panel and put it into an ordinary list on a page, like so:

      <li id=splaying onclick="iui.playlistRefresh();">[XPTUNES_I18N_REFRESH]</li>

When I click it, the refresh works fine ( I can see it happening on MC) but then the page changes to the black splash-page with “xpTunes” on it – and never comes back.

Any idea why this would be?

Cheers….

[Messiahs]

Hi adamsp70,

interesting...
i tried your code on "index.html" and with a new "second" page. The smartlist reloads and the splash-page isn't shown...

Are you testing with FireFox or with your iPod/iPhone?
Can you please attach or post the whole page ?

Perhaps i'm working with a newer version of xpTunes...

Markus

 

[adamsp70]

Have sent the code to you direct - thanks.

Also, very minor, but my 5 star songs show up with 4 stars on xpTouch.

Cheers....
   Paul

[Messiahs]

Mail is on the way..

[Messiahs]

new beta version:
http://rapidshare.com/files/254366584/xpTunesV200.zip.html
http://rapidshare.de/files/47815718/xpTunesV200.zip.html

[TXgary]

I have ver 200 running on PC and can access it from other pc's but cannot follow you directions on getting it to run on Iphone....  I am running MC 13 and 14 on PC.  not finding visualizations folder in either 13 or 14 and so no luck.
Please spell it out for a dummy.  I do have a BS degree in Mathematics, but that doesn't appear to be helping..... Ha...

[TXgary]

It is all working very well now, my problem.  Stupidity.  Not much I can do about that..
Thanks for a wonderful product.  Exactly what is needed to push MC way over itunes in my book.  No comparison....

[TXgary]

Markus
I have two questions?

1. Can you define which MC opens, I have both 13 and 14 on same machine and have Library Server open for both.

2. Say I have MC14 running at home and library server is running, I want to play music at my friends house so I log on to library server on my laptop at my friends and search and Play the songs on my laptop from my home computer.  Now I want to be able to use xptunes to control my laptop and see all of my music on my home computer.  Can I do this???  if so, how.

Thanks for a great product.  I bought it and am very please with it.

Gary

[Messiahs]

Hi Gary,

1. Can you define which MC opens, I have both 13 and 14 on same machine and have Library Server open for both.

I think the last installed version will win. You don't need Library Server for xpTunes.

2. Say I have MC14 running at home and library server is running, I want to play music at my friends house so I log on to library server on my laptop at my friends and search and Play the songs on my laptop from my home computer.  Now I want to be able to use xptunes to control my laptop and see all of my music on my home computer.  Can I do this???  if so, how.

Did you try to install xpTunes on your Laptop and what happend?  (of course you then have to connect to your laptop ip)

Thanks for a great product.  I bought it and am very please with it.

Thanks 

Markus

[TXgary]

Markus,
Yes, this works for remote laptop, the big problem is defining which MC will open.
If MC13 opens then I cannot play from the server to my laptop with the music playing on my laptop.
It will work with MC14 provided I am on the same network with both computers.  I have not tested the solution from outside the network but only when MC14 get sellected by xptunes.  It may select by "last one loaded"  I will test further.
My biggest problems so far with xpTunes:
1. which mc opens (13 or 14) when both are installed.
2. No ability to use xpTunes to shuffle or not from the iphone.
Again, a fantastic product.

[Messiahs]

Hi Gary,

at this time there is no solution... perhaps uninstalling MC13 is a choise ?

Can you please explain your second point ?
I tried the shuffle function (Queue & shuffle)... everything was fine.

[TXgary]

I could not find the shuffle, will try again.
Thanks so much for your response.
Also, perhaps there is a work a round for the version issue.  I will work on it.

[Messiahs]

I could not find the shuffle, will try again.

Just click on the "more"-button ("+") on the upper right side.

Regards,
Markus

[ruze]

Version 1.6 is available:
http://rapidshare.de/files/47012742/xpTunesV1.6.zip.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/228820658/xpTunesV1.6.zip.html

changelog:
- "settings save" bug hopefully solved
- demo is now limited to 25 files
- some iTouch skin changes
- now 10 playlist entries in xpTouch
- playlist bugfix
- trackinfo fixed

Where can I download the latest version of xpTunes, please?  I tried the above links and they are not working (they were posted a while ago I see).

[Messiahs]

ups, sry:
http://freenet-homepage.de/Messiahs/files/xptunes/xpTunes2.zip

[Messiahs]

any interests in a Vista sidebar gadget?

[Mr. Tuesdays]

Hi guys - I'd love to use xpTunes but I can not get it to run.  can not figure out why.
Since so many people here seem to have had good luck running it, maybe you can help?

Here is what I did, please tell me what I am doing wrong.

1) uninstalled Media Jukebox 12 ( i only play music, so that's what i used)
2) installed MC V14.0.50 (trial)
3) set MC to run remote server on port 80
4) restarted MC
5) ran xpTunes from the uzipped folder (xpTunes2.zip) 
6) left xpTunes on auto - it inserted the laptop IP address.  Set port to 8080.  xpTunes window says "settings loaded"


I cannot connect from this laptop or any other computer on the network (they do share files)
Tried IP address or computer name followed by :80  http://192.168.123:80  or http://mylaptop:80
No connection with xpTunes running or not running.
Also tried ports 8080 and 8082 in xpTunes and MC14.  No connection.  Restarted windoze, no connection

So how do I know the remote server is running on MC14?  Why can't I connect to xpTunes?  Have I missed a step, done something wrong?
Do MC and xpTunes need to be set to the same port?  Different ports?
WinXP pro.  Firefox or Opera browser.  Firewall set to allow xpTunes on different ports.

Any ideas or help are most welcome!  I've tried all I know.

Thanks.

[JimH]

You can learn how to test whether remote server is running (and not firewalled) here:
http://wiki.jrmediacenter.com/index.php/Remote_Server

[Messiahs]

Hi Mr. Tuesdays,

first some short hints:
1.) xpTunes should run with MC 12 Jukebox too.
2.) you don't need the remote server to run xpTunes
3.) you should use a ipAddress (http://192.xxx.xxx.xxx:8081)
4.) you should connect to the specified xpTunes port (perhaps try port 8085)
5.) Check your ipAddress (your mentioned ipAddress "http://192.168.123:80"  is not valid, should something like http://192.168.178.1:8085)

You extract the xpTunes2.zip on a local folder ?
Perhaps (like Jim mentioned) firewall settings ? (disable firewall on both PC's (only for testing))

You also can try to connect to xpTunes on the same PC where xpTunes is running.


Hope this helps

regards,
Markus

[Mr. Tuesdays]

Thanks Jim and Marcus.   I did get it running.  Both the MC14 server and xpTunes.

What did re-read the wiki entry and tried again.

Set MC14 to port 80
Set xpTunes to port 8082
Changed the name of the computer.
Can now log in via the computer name from anywhere on the network to either MC14 or xpTunes

It works great.  Not sure how I got it so messed up.   Will try xpTunes without the MC14 server running.  If that works, I'll go back to my old MJ 12, as it works well for me and I like it. 

Oh,   for the IP address - if I need it - it should be the IP address given on the ISCP page of xpTunes, not my computer IP address, then?

Cheers,
 Michael

[Messiahs]

Oh,   for the IP address - if I need it - it should be the IP address given on the ISCP page of xpTunes, not my computer IP address, then?

No, you will find the IP address on the first page (with buttons 'start/stop server, settings , exit).

regards,
Markus

[BradC]

HI

I had a few problems getting xptunes (v2) to work with the current version of JRMC14 (.079).
I had to enable MC to start windows with media server running.
Otherwise xptunes would report a COM error when starting. I didn't think this was how it was supposed to work. I checked the regkey posted above, and it was pointing to the correct folder.

Anyway, I got it working.

However, I would like to know how I can get xptunes to behave the same way as my previous installation (MC 13 with xptunes 1.6). That is, when selecting genre or artist on the ipod touch, it displays all the songs, instead of the albums as it used to.

How do I change this back?

[Messiahs]

Hi BradC,

sorry for the late response.

What do you want to see as result, when you choose "Genre" > "Artist" > "Album"
a.) all albums of the artist
b.) only albums who matches the genre & artist ?

What do you want to see as result, when you choose "Genre" > "Artist" > "Album" > "Tracks"
a.) all tracks of the album
b.) only tracks who matches genre & artist & album ?

regards,
Markus

[BradC]

Hi,

The problem is that with ver 2, when I select genre, it behaves as

genre -> tracks

I don't get to select the artist -> album.

I can fix it by copying an older version of the itouch code over the top of the ver 2 code. But I think this causes other problems - ie it is slow to select some things.

Brad

[BradC]

Hi

By way of a further update, I just completed a win 7 install (upgrade after formatting the disk)

I still have the same problem with genre -> tracks.
I also have a bug where when a song is added, it doesn't start playing, even though the option 'start playing when files added to playing now' is selected. This feature works when a file is added within jriver, and it also used to work with the previous version of xptunes
. I am using jriver ver 14.0.88

Is it necessary to install ver1 of xptunes first, then the updates over the top?
I only extracted xptunes ver2 to a new directory c:/program files/xptunes in this installation.

Thanks for your help

Brad

[Messiahs]

Hi Brad,

"genre -> tracks"
works like expected.
I think it's the best way to show/search for a song. In JR you add a genre to a track and not to an album/artist.

Perhaps my problem is not clear.

Think on something like an album with values:

Artist: "Artist ABC"
Album: "Album what ever"
Tracks:
1.) Song A -> POP
2.) Song B -> POP
3.) Song C -> POP
4.) Song D -> Dance
5.) Song A -> POP
...) Song x -> POP


If we think something like
"genre -> artist -> album -> track"

or with example values:
"Dance" -> "Artist ABC" -> "Album what ever"

What do you expect: "4.) Song D -> Dance" ?
Hey, you selected the album "Album what ever" and now only one track is shown ? ;-)

or do you expect all tracks of the album ?
First we select the genre "Dance" and now you want all "POP" songs too ? ;-)

"I also have a bug where when a song is added, it doesn't start playing"
You are using xpTouch ? I just tried it with 14.0.90 and everything works fine. If youclick on "add" the track is added to the end of "playing now". If you click on "play" the song will be added to the top of "playing now" and starts playing.

"Is it necessary to install ver1 of xptunes first, then the updates over the top?"
No, just extract all xpTunes 2 files. I would recommend to first delete all old files (xpTunes x). 

Best regards,
Markus

 

[BradC]

Hi

I am not sure if I made the problem clear, or if you say that is how it's supposed to work.

So i'll try to explain again.

The problem is that with ver2 of xptunes (ver 1 and 1.6 were fine).
When I select genre from the touch/iphone theme it displays a list of genres (that's ok). Then I select a genre (eg. pop). It then displays ALL the songs of that genre (about 87 pages), this makes it hard to find a song.
It does not first display the artists in the pop genre. That is what I meant by genre-> songs. It does not give me the option of selecting artist and albums.

Are you saying that this is the behaviour that is expected, and what you changed it to in ver 2?

I still have the problem that if the 'playing now' list is empty, then I ADD a song, it does not start playing automatically. If I do the same thing in MC it does play automatically, as that is what is supposed to happen when 'start playing when files added to playing now' is selected.
Again this feature worked correctly in the previous version of xptunes and jrmc 13.

 

[BradC]

Hi again,

OK I think I understand your post that genre -> track is by design.

I can use a previous version to get it to behave the way I prefer.

I have tried xptunes v1.05, v1.6 and v2.0 with MC 14. A couple of things changed with the update from MC 13 to 14.
Firstly, the behaviour with 'start playing on add to now playing' worked on ver 13 and doesn't on 14. Is there anything that you can do about this?

Also with ver 13 when turning the ipod touch to landscape mode it would show the now playing screen. This does not work with ver 14. In fact it doesn't actually display landscape mode correctly, let alone change to the now playing screen.
Again is there anything you can do about this? Or is it a MC 14 bug?

Regards

Brad

[BradC]

Hi again

I think I can fix my issues as posted above by reverting to MC 13. However, I would prefer to find a fix for v14, as the interface in xptouch is improved with v14.

I have another request with the behavior of xptouch.
Would it be possible to get xptouch to use the 'behaviour' settings in the general options of MC.
My problem is that in the view of an album there is an add button, but if you tap the song title it plays it straight away, adding it to the top of playing now. I would prefer the 'Add to Playing Now (play next): Adds the file in the Playing Now playlist as next to play' behaviour.

Many times people have accidently tapped a song and it plays, but also causes MC to go back to the start of the playing now list. For a long list this can be annoying.

Thanks

Brad

[Shasta Mcnasty]

I have been using v0.08 for ever, and just now tried V2.  It looks and works great, but in V2 my Queue, Playlist, search result (i.e. Files) etc. pages all only show one page of results.  The page indicator between the up/down arrows on the right side always says "1/1", and if I click on the up or down arrows, nothing happens. 

In V0.08 the page indicator was correct and I used the arrows to change pages.  Does anyone else have this behavior? 

[Messiahs]

@BradC
I will take a look. Should be no problem, but can take some time.

@Shasta Mcnasty
Did you enter Registration key ?
If not, xpTunes is running in demo mode and only shows 20 entries, or perhaps you are using "old" skins ?

Markus

[Shasta Mcnasty]

Yes, demo mode is the answer.  Thanks!  I'll upgrade now that I know what the problem is! 

[Osho]

The software looks great. I have a few comments:

1. Is it possible to increase the resolution of the iphone skin so that the text is a little bigger. I am browsing using motorola droid which has screen resolution of 854x480 on 3.7" screen and the text is too small to select the menus.
2. Can I just see a list of Genres instead of index (A, B, C etc.). Index makes sense for artists as one may have many. But, I only have 10-12 genres total and it is just one added step to select the one that I want.
3. Why does selecting a Genre show all the songs in that Genre? In some Genre's I have 5000 songs! This is just not easy way to browser. I would like to see Genre/Artists/Albums hierarchy and only on the lowest albums hierarchy - I would like to see individual songs.

Thanks,
Osho

[BradC]

Hi

I did some more testing by going back to MC 13 and xptunes v1.00.
The landscape mode (where rotating the ipod touch (firmware v2.2.1)) only works in xptunes v1.00.
ie that is the one version where it will display playing now in landscape mode. In all other versions landscape mode is displayed incorrectly.

I could not find a version where 'start on add to playing now' worked correctly. So it must have been only in a MC version older than 13.0.171.

Would it be possible to get the landscape mode working again?

Thanks

Brad

[Messiahs]

Hi Brad,

thanks for testing.
I did some testing about the landscape switch.
I use MC 14.0.96,  IPodTouch with FW 3.0, XpTunes 1.08 and xpTouch 2.00 as skin (added to the homescreen).... and everything works fine.
I think you should first update your IPod/IPhone FW and add xpTouch to the homescreen. IPod FW below 3.0 doesn't provide the landscape mode (if you start an application over a homescreen button).

'start on add to playing now' -> should only start playing, if the "Playing Now " queue is empty, or ?

Markus


 

[BradC]

Hi

Thanks for the reply.

I will update the firmware. I have xptunes added to the homescreen.

That is correct, 'start on add to playing now' -> should only start playing, if the "Playing Now " queue is empty.

It works correctly if you add a track from the MC interface. However, it doesn't if xptunes is used to add a track. I don't understand what difference that makes to MC.

[Messiahs]

@Osho

The software looks great.

thanks !!!

1. Is it possible to increase the resolution of the iphone skin so that the text is a little bigger. I am browsing using motorola droid which has screen resolution of 854x480 on 3.7" screen and the text is too small to select the menus.

everything can be done in the Android.css (html/xpTouch/css/Android.css)
To increase the text size just add the following lines to the end of the file and change the value "font-size" to 22px (or more):

Code: [Select]

body > ul > div > li,
body > ul > li,
body > div > ul > li{
    border-bottom: 1px solid #E0E0E0;
    padding: 9px 0 8px 10px;
    font-size: 16px;
    font-weight: bold;
}

2. Can I just see a list of Genres instead of index (A, B, C etc.). Index makes sense for artists as one may have many. But, I only have 10-12 genres total and it is just one added step to select the one that I want.

I will take a look.

3. Why does selecting a Genre show all the songs in that Genre? In some Genre's I have 5000 songs! This is just not easy way to browser. I would like to see Genre/Artists/Albums hierarchy and only on the lowest albums hierarchy - I would like to see individual songs.

The problem is meantioned some posts earlier....

best regards,
Markus

[Sheugel]

Hi,
Would it be possible to link the volume controls of xpTunes (xpTouch) to an external application like EventGhost? The idea is to be able to control the volume of an ampli with an IR receiver/emitter like usb-uirt.
It's possible to call EventGhost:
http://www.eventghost.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1810&hilit=external
The event would then trigger the volume controls.
Thanks.

[Messiahs]

Would it be possible to link the volume controls of xpTunes (xpTouch) to an external application like EventGhost?

Hi Sheugel,

should already be possible.
Take a look at the EventGhost Plugin "WebServer" and perhaps the "example files for the Webserver plugin" (http://www.eventghost.org/downloads/).

best regards,
Markus

[Messiahs]

2. Can I just see a list of Genres instead of index (A, B, C etc.). Index makes sense for artists as one may have many. But, I only have 10-12 genres total and it is just one added step to select the one that I want.

Just open "xpTouch/index.html" and change "callUrl('SummaryGenre.html');"  to "callUrl('Genre.html');".

Markus