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CadErik

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Windows 7 Codecs (No DVD sound in MC 14.0.101)
« on: November 24, 2009, 09:19:48 pm »

I just installed it on a fresh win 7 pro (64 bit) installation and I don't get any sound on DVD playback.
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No DVD sound with MC 14.0.101
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2009, 11:12:00 pm »

I just installed it on a fresh win 7 pro (64 bit) installation and I don't get any sound on DVD playback.


While DVD is playing, right-click, and choose DirectShoe Filters > Copy graph info to clipboard.  Paste the result here.
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No DVD sound with MC 14.0.101
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2009, 01:03:03 am »

While DVD is playing, right-click, and choose DirectShoe Filters > Copy graph info to clipboard.  Paste the result here.
Filter Graph Info:

    Filter 'Default DirectSound Device'
        CLSID: {79376820-07D0-11CF-A24D-0020AFD79767}
        Host: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\quartz.dll
        Input Pin 'Audio Input pin (rendered)'
            Connected to pin 'XFrom Out' of filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Audio Decoder'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_IEEE_FLOAT, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx

    Filter 'Enhanced Video Renderer'
        CLSID: {FA10746C-9B63-4B6C-BC49-FC300EA5F256}
        Host: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\evr.dll
        Input Pin 'EVR Input0'
            Connected to pin 'Video Output 1' of filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_NV12, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo2
        Input Pin 'EVR Input1'
            Connected to pin 'XForm Out' of filter 'Line 21 Decoder 2'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_AYUV, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo
        Input Pin 'EVR Input2'
            Connected to pin '~Subpicture Output' of filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_AYUV, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo2

    Filter 'Line 21 Decoder 2'
        CLSID: {E4206432-01A1-4BEE-B3E1-3702C8EDC574}
        Host: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\quartz.dll
        Input Pin 'XForm In'
            Connected to pin '~Line21 Output' of filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_AUXLine21Data  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_Line21_GOPPacket, Format type FORMAT_None
        Output Pin 'XForm Out'
            Connected to pin 'EVR Input1' of filter 'Enhanced Video Renderer'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_AYUV, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo

    Filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Audio Decoder'
        CLSID: {E1F1A0B8-BEEE-490D-BA7C-066C40B5E2B9}
        Host: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\msmpeg2adec.dll
        Input Pin 'XForm In'
            Connected to pin 'AC3' of filter 'DVD Navigator'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DOLBY_AC3, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx
        Output Pin 'XFrom Out'
            Connected to pin 'Audio Input pin (rendered)' of filter 'Default DirectSound Device'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_IEEE_FLOAT, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx

    Filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
        CLSID: {212690FB-83E5-4526-8FD7-74478B7939CD}
        Host: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\msmpeg2vdec.dll
        Input Pin 'Video Input'
            Connected to pin 'Video' of filter 'DVD Navigator'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2_VIDEO, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
        Input Pin 'Subpicture Input'
            Connected to pin 'SubPicture' of filter 'DVD Navigator'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DVD_SUBPICTURE, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
        Output Pin 'Video Output 1'
            Connected to pin 'EVR Input0' of filter 'Enhanced Video Renderer'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_NV12, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo2
        Output Pin '~Line21 Output'
            Connected to pin 'XForm In' of filter 'Line 21 Decoder 2'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_AUXLine21Data  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_Line21_GOPPacket, Format type FORMAT_None
        Output Pin '~Subpicture Output'
            Connected to pin 'EVR Input2' of filter 'Enhanced Video Renderer'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_AYUV, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo2

    Filter 'DVD Navigator'
        CLSID: {9B8C4620-2C1A-11D0-8493-00A02438AD48}
        Host: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\qdvd.dll
        Output Pin 'Video'
            Connected to pin 'Video Input' of filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2_VIDEO, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
        Output Pin 'AC3'
            Connected to pin 'XForm In' of filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Audio Decoder'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DOLBY_AC3, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx
        Output Pin 'SubPicture'
            Connected to pin 'Subpicture Input' of filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DVD_SUBPICTURE, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
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Re: No DVD sound with MC 14.0.101
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2009, 09:36:07 am »

Filter Graph Info:

    Filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Audio Decoder'

This is the problem.  "Microsoft DTV-DVD Audio Decoder" does not actually decode anything in any application that is not Microsoft's.

You will need to have another audio decoder such as AC3Filter, or FFDShow Audio Decoder (as part of CCCP).
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Re: No DVD sound with MC 14.0.101
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2009, 12:07:33 pm »

This is the problem.  "Microsoft DTV-DVD Audio Decoder" does not actually decode anything in any application that is not Microsoft's.

You will need to have another audio decoder such as AC3Filter, or FFDShow Audio Decoder (as part of CCCP).

Thanks for the clarification! I was hoping I would not need any other decoder because it works perfectly under WMP.
Since you seem to be a codec expert, if I install CCCP, how do I select the microsoft video codecs instead of the CCCP for mp4 and other files once CCCP is installed?
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Re: No DVD sound with MC 14.0.101
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2009, 12:32:35 pm »

Thanks for the clarification! I was hoping I would not need any other decoder because it works perfectly under WMP.
Since you seem to be a codec expert, if I install CCCP, how do I select the microsoft video codecs instead of the CCCP for mp4 and other files once CCCP is installed?

In MC, Tools > Options > File Types, select the file type, choose "JRiver video engine (using DirectShow)", then select filters.
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Re: No DVD sound with MC 14.0.101
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2009, 12:43:33 pm »

This is the problem.  "Microsoft DTV-DVD Audio Decoder" does not actually decode anything in any application that is not Microsoft's.

You will need to have another audio decoder such as AC3Filter, or FFDShow Audio Decoder (as part of CCCP).

I guess that from an end user perspective, an error message that no proper audio decoder is available would be quite useful.
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Re: No DVD sound with MC 14.0.101
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2009, 01:51:03 pm »

I guess that from an end user perspective, an error message that no proper audio decoder is available would be quite useful.

Yeah, but this one is special.  The Microsoft audio decoder does not decode DD/AC3, but it can still be used if the user outputs sound to an out-board hardware decoder via SPDIF.  Many users have such setup.
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Re: No DVD sound with MC 14.0.101
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2009, 09:01:51 am »

I'm having this same problem, but I did have sound in .96 and .98.  I have never had any other filter on this system (fresh Win 7 from about a month ago).
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Re: No DVD sound with MC 14.0.101
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2009, 10:17:20 am »

I'm having this same problem, but I did have sound in .96 and .98.  I have never had any other filter on this system (fresh Win 7 from about a month ago).

I'd Install AC3Filter, it's quite good.

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Re: No DVD sound with MC 14.0.101
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2009, 10:20:01 am »

Wasn't one of the advantages of Win 7 that you wouldn't need the codec packs?  Will this mess up anything with Win 7?
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Re: Windows 7 Codecs (No DVD sound in MC 14.0.101)
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2009, 10:58:15 am »

Loads of people seem to use it without any problems.  I use Vista and it's not caused any issues here.

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Re: No DVD sound with MC 14.0.101
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2009, 09:21:45 am »

Wasn't one of the advantages of Win 7 that you wouldn't need the codec packs?

If you only use Windows Media Player, this statement maybe true.  Here is what Microsoft says about its own "Microsoft DTV-DVD audio decoer":

"Note  The Microsoft implementation of the Dolby Digital technology is restricted under terms of the Dolby Digital licensing program to use by Microsoft applications."

I'm having this same problem, but I did have sound in .96 and .98.  I have never had any other filter on this system (fresh Win 7 from about a month ago).

Are you sure it really worked previously (with builds 96 and 98)?  Do you use digital output?
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Re: No DVD sound with MC 14.0.101
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2009, 09:29:22 am »


Are you sure it really worked previously (with builds 96 and 98)?  Do you use digital output?

Well that makes sense, so I still need codecs for anything other than WMP.  I am not positive that it was working.  I thought it was but it is a new computer so maybe I have only played a movie with MPC-HC.  The file that I remember watching with MC14 was a mkv (still AC3) but I guess that might be the difference.

Thanks so much for your help though.
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