Topic: DLNA TV's (Read 41124 times)

JimH · « **on:** December 25, 2009, 07:46:20 am »

I'm starting this thread to keep track of TV's that support the DLNA protocol. Please add to it if you can.

These TV's have a network connection so you can put them on your home network.

Samsung 7 series -- price at Best Buy is around $1500.

Sony Bravia W series -- may not be in stores in U.S. yet

tls62dk · « **Reply #1 on:** December 26, 2009, 01:21:05 am »

Pioneer Kuro PDP-LX5090H, available in 50" and 60".

TLS

newsposter · « **Reply #2 on:** December 26, 2009, 01:41:15 am »

newegg has two of the Sonys available

Mr ChriZ · « **Reply #3 on:** December 26, 2009, 05:20:08 am »

My folks have just bought a Panasonic Viera which supports it.
We're intending to try and hook MC up to it later this week

JimH · « **Reply #4 on:** December 26, 2009, 07:03:17 am »

Quote from: newsposter on December 26, 2009, 01:41:15 am

newegg has two of the Sonys available

Thanks. Here's a 40 inch Sony Bravia TV (model KDL-40Z5100) for $1119:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889252082&cm_re=sony_bravia-_-89-252-082-_-Product

and a 46 inch Bravia for $1329 (KDL-46W5100)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889252078&cm_re=sony_bravia-_-89-252-078-_-Product

tcman41 · « **Reply #5 on:** December 26, 2009, 10:25:07 am »

I bought a Samsung 750 series about 3 months ago , what is this DLNA all bout?

thanks
TC

JimH · « **Reply #6 on:** December 26, 2009, 11:15:35 am »

You can play from MC to the TV. Please take a look at DLNA on our Wiki.

If you have questions after reading, post here and I'll see if I can fix the Wiki.

BrianD · « **Reply #7 on:** December 28, 2009, 05:28:45 am »

I have a Samsung series 6 LCD (LA32B650) which does support DLNA. I am still yet to get it working though. Looking forward to the day when MC can stream directly to it.

JimH · « **Reply #8 on:** December 28, 2009, 06:31:20 am »

Quote from: BrianD on December 28, 2009, 05:28:45 am

I have a Samsung series 6 LCD (LA32B650) which does support DLNA. I am still yet to get it working though. Looking forward to the day when MC can stream directly to it.

~~I was told that the series 7 was the first to support DLNA.~~

Edit:

Apparently bad information. The Samsung web site says that it is DLNA certified:

Samsung LA32B650

Make sure you try the latest build from the top of the MC board. We can probably get it going if you'll help.

BrianD · « **Reply #9 on:** December 28, 2009, 06:10:23 pm »

Cool,

It works with the Samsung software that came with the TV but that doesn't allow browsing the media via the tags (i.e. Genre, Series etc.)
It doesn't have a nice front end like MC but at least if I can browse via categories it would be better than what I have.

Is there anyway to get the JR Theatre view displayed on the TV over the ethernet. (I don't think so but just thought I'd ask)

Last night I tried build 118 on my Windows 7 Laptop and selected the Generic DLNA server option in MC. The TV was able to see the folders but evertime I went into the folder the TV dropped out of MediaPlay and back to normal viewing.

Do you want me to capture some logs to send in?

Brian

JimH · « **Reply #10 on:** December 28, 2009, 06:52:01 pm »

Try a few of the MC UPnP Server options. Try DLNA and then modify it.

We would need a "sniff" of the traffic from a "sniffer" program. Wireshark is what we use.

Thanks for letting us know what you've found.

BrianD · « **Reply #11 on:** December 29, 2009, 05:12:22 am »

I have captured a comms trace using wireshark between my Windows 7 MC DLNA server and the TV. Setting is the default Generic DLNA running on the default port (2870). The only things I changed were checked shrink large images, selected never to convert audio (The encoder was MP3).

Using the above I am able to browse the categories of all media types i.e. Audio, Images, Video as defined in the MC tree views. I can even see the thumbnail images of my pictures (jpg) and embedded coverart on the mp3's BUT when I go to play/view any of the files a message box appears on the TV saying "Unsupported File Type". This is the same message for all media types.

This is a step further than I was getting with the earlier build (.111)

I can't see how to send the log file in. Is there a FTP site or email address to get it to you.

Chili-Jam · « **Reply #12 on:** December 29, 2009, 06:03:30 am »

I've got a Sony KDL-55XBR8 (named KDL-55X4500 in my country) that is supposed to have DLNA.
It is not working with MC14 (build 118).

But apparently Sony TVs are reported in forums to behave strange regarding DLNA.
The only server i was able to stream to my Sony is ps3mediaserver ( http://code.google.com/p/ps3mediaserver/ ).
This (free of charge) server is written in Java and has sourcecode available.
Might be interesting for your developers.

JimH · « **Reply #13 on:** December 29, 2009, 06:56:04 am »

Quote from: Chili-Jam on December 29, 2009, 06:03:30 am

I've got a Sony KDL-55XBR8 (named KDL-55X4500 in my country) that is supposed to have DLNA.
It is not working with MC14 (build 118).

But apparently Sony TVs are reported in forums to behave strange regarding DLNA.
The only server i was able to stream to my Sony is ps3mediaserver ( http://code.google.com/p/ps3mediaserver/ ).
This (free of charge) server is written in Java and has sourcecode available.
Might be interesting for your developers.

I just read a post about the ps3mediaserver that said it worked with a wired connection, but not with a wireless connection.

JimH · « **Reply #14 on:** December 29, 2009, 08:04:36 am »

Try mailing it to bob at jriver with a link or copy of your post. Thanks.

BrianD · « **Reply #15 on:** December 29, 2009, 04:12:14 pm »

Quote from: JimH on December 29, 2009, 08:04:36 am

Try mailing it to bob at jriver with a link or copy of your post. Thanks.

I have mailed as an attachment to [removed]. Hope this is correct.

BrianD · « **Reply #16 on:** December 30, 2009, 06:53:50 am »

Hi JimH,

I know these things take time but just wondering if you had received my wireshark trace and whether it contains useful information or you need more.

Regards
Brian

JimH · « **Reply #17 on:** December 30, 2009, 07:39:01 am »

We're off this week for the holidays. It will be Monday or Tuesday before we know anything.

BrianD · « **Reply #18 on:** December 30, 2009, 07:41:49 am »

No worries, Enjoy the break

BrianD · « **Reply #19 on:** January 11, 2010, 01:24:51 am »

Hi MC team,

Just wondering if you have had a chance to analyse the logs for my Samsung DLNA issue. Build 121 allows me to browse my library via the MC view schemes, I can even see thumbnails of coverart but when I select to play any of the media types I always get the same message on the tv. i.e. "Media Type Not Supported".

Is it possible this is a MC transcoding issue?

Any help appreciated
Thanks

JimH · « **Reply #20 on:** January 16, 2010, 09:32:14 am »

Panasonic Viera is working for audio and images with build 121.

shawnholt · « **Reply #21 on:** January 23, 2010, 07:37:51 pm »

I can see Windows 7, but its slow, clunky and does not allow tags. I can see the media server, but nothing plays at all (says media not supported)

Mr ChriZ · « **Reply #22 on:** March 17, 2010, 06:22:26 pm »

Quote from: JimH on January 16, 2010, 09:32:14 am

Panasonic Viera is working for audio and images with build 121.

We tried this tonight on my folks Viera. Latest Build of MC14.
The TV found the DLNA server fine, and we could view the audio files. However when trying to play the files the TV displayed the message
"File Not Supported".

The audio files were all Mp3. I tried playing with conversion settings but it didn't help.

shawnholt · « **Reply #23 on:** March 17, 2010, 07:54:31 pm »

Same for me - I find DLNA basically useless with my samsung TV.

bob · « **Reply #24 on:** April 02, 2010, 11:24:42 am »

I've made some changes in the next build of 15 (this will be 15.0.17 or greater) after doing much searching for the differences with the Samsung tv's.
Under advanced options in the DLNA options, turn on DLNAExtra.
Report back please.

Mr ChriZ · « **Reply #25 on:** April 02, 2010, 11:31:48 am »

Quote from: bob on April 02, 2010, 11:24:42 am

I've made some changes in the next build of 15 (this will be 15.0.17 or greater) after doing much searching for the differences with the Samsung tv's.
Under advanced options in the DLNA options, turn on DLNAExtra.
Report back please.

Is this likely to help with the Panasonic to?

bob · « **Reply #26 on:** April 02, 2010, 11:48:04 am »

Quote from: Mr ChriZ on April 02, 2010, 11:31:48 am

Is this likely to help with the Panasonic too?

I think it's possible, lets say a %60 chance.

JimH · « **Reply #27 on:** April 03, 2010, 06:29:56 pm »

15.0.17 has some changes that should work with Samsung TV's:

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=56784.0

bob · « **Reply #28 on:** April 19, 2010, 08:40:45 am »

In DLNA options, is the "support video" checkbox on for your server? Does video show up under customize views? Are you using the current version?

DonDallas71 · « **Reply #29 on:** April 19, 2010, 08:16:17 pm »

I was running 15.0.23 that I downloaded on 4/15, but now I am running 15.0.28. Nothing changed after the upgrade. Yes, the "support video" option is checked and video also shows up under the customize views.

I still do not see the MC15 server listed under the video section on my TV. The Sony menu is a little weird. It has 3 different categories for Photo, Music and Video. Once you select a category it lists all the available servers for that media type. For my windows computers and PlayOn server, they show up under all 3 categories, but my MC15 server only shows up under Photo and Music. When looking under the Photo and Music categories I can still browse all the various views, it just only shows media items for that specific category. So I can see the Video views when browsing Photo and Music, but just can't see any of the items.

Quote from: bob on April 19, 2010, 08:40:45 am

In DLNA options, is the "support video" checkbox on for your server? Does video show up under customize views? Are you using the current version?

Mr ChriZ · « **Reply #30 on:** April 20, 2010, 04:02:11 pm »

Quote from: bob on April 02, 2010, 11:48:04 am

I think it's possible, lets say a %60 chance.

Sadly still no go with with the Viera.

bob · « **Reply #31 on:** April 20, 2010, 04:47:05 pm »

Quote from: Mr ChriZ on April 20, 2010, 04:02:11 pm

Sadly still no go with with the Viera.

Can you tell me what works and doesn't?
Start with all conversions turned off and test with just mp3's, jpgs and mpeg2 videos if you have them.
With and without the DLNAExtra flag enabled if you have time.
Thanks...

Mr ChriZ · « **Reply #32 on:** April 20, 2010, 05:11:51 pm »

Quote from: bob on April 20, 2010, 04:47:05 pm

Can you tell me what works and doesn't?
Start with all conversions turned off and test with just mp3's, jpgs and mpeg2 videos if you have them.
With and without the DLNAExtra flag enabled if you have time.
Thanks...

The TV finds the server no problem. I can then navigate through audio/video no problem.
I can see all the files no problem.
When trying to play an MP3 the TV reports "File not supported".
Turning DLNAExtra on or off, with or without DLNA does not help.

We've tried MKV's and VOB files to the same effect.

Unfortunately I don't get to visit my folks as much as I'd like any more, and when I do it's rarely for more than a weekend.
Tonight it's just for one evening, so I can't do much more testing at present.

Mr ChriZ · « **Reply #33 on:** April 20, 2010, 05:21:18 pm »

I've contacted Panasonic to see if they can help.

bob · « **Reply #34 on:** April 22, 2010, 08:53:57 am »

Thanks!
It really helps to actually have a device to work with.

JimH · « **Reply #35 on:** April 28, 2010, 10:27:15 am »

I split some posts on Sony Bravia to a new thread.

Mr ChriZ · « **Reply #36 on:** May 12, 2010, 11:19:49 am »

Quote from: Mr ChriZ on April 20, 2010, 05:21:18 pm

I've contacted Panasonic to see if they can help.

Bob I've copied you into an email convo I've been having with Panasonic.
Hopefully they might shed some light on the situation.

Rutger · « **Reply #37 on:** May 25, 2010, 04:57:12 pm »

It works on my Philips 8404. Tversity and Orb (Winamp remote) also work fine on it. Tversity is still the simplest, because you get an app that helps you along easily with all the settings. Hope JRiver, or someone clever will make a nice app like Tversity, for all the dumbasses like me, who have endlesss problems figuring out firewalls and routers and so on. Also, if someone could make an app for Android, that includes folder browsing, I will bow down, kiss their feet and declare him/her God. Anyway, a Philips 8000 or 9000 series TV is be able to play this.

JimH · « **Reply #38 on:** August 25, 2010, 12:51:51 pm »

WeeHappyPixie · « **Reply #39 on:** August 25, 2010, 04:04:17 pm »

My LG 42LE5900 supports DNLA however I have not found the correct setting in MJ15 to get it to work. TV came with an OEM version of Nero MediaHome (hate that software) but I would like to use MJ.

John

JimH · « **Reply #40 on:** August 25, 2010, 06:02:31 pm »

MJ15 won't work. There isn't one yet.

Are you using MJ14? Or MC15?

WeeHappyPixie · « **Reply #41 on:** August 27, 2010, 02:07:41 pm »

I am using MJ15 Jim build 95

John

JimH · « **Reply #42 on:** August 27, 2010, 02:11:28 pm »

I suppose you mean MC, not MJ.

WeeHappyPixie · « **Reply #43 on:** August 28, 2010, 04:06:08 am »

Quote from: JimH on August 27, 2010, 02:11:28 pm

I suppose you mean MC, not MJ.

OOps..

Yeah, MC Jim.. Should really refrain from surfing while on the Guinness..

bob · « **Reply #44 on:** August 30, 2010, 09:57:50 am »

Quote from: WeeHappyPixie on August 25, 2010, 04:04:17 pm

My LG 42LE5900 supports DNLA however I have not found the correct setting in MC15 to get it to work. TV came with an OEM version of Nero MediaHome (hate that software) but I would like to use MC

You'll probably want to update to the latest build (15.0.101)
Then start with the generic DLNA server. In the Media Network advanced options turn on DLNAExtra, make sure the subtitle checkbox is off, turn off all audio, image and video conversions.
Once that's working on your TV you can try the options.

WeeHappyPixie · « **Reply #45 on:** August 30, 2010, 11:15:59 am »

Cheers Bob,

Will try it when I get home and report back. Bank holiday weekend (public long weekend) here in the UK so I wont get home till late Monday. Looking forward to trying it.

John

WeeHappyPixie · « **Reply #46 on:** September 03, 2010, 01:03:21 pm »

Thanks Bob,

Using the settings you recommended worked. Will test for a few days with different files and feedback.

John

ajocius · « **Reply #47 on:** September 27, 2010, 02:03:47 am »

I am extending my house and working on the area where TV will be based in the bedroom. TV has DLNA and I would love to use MC15 to stream music. Reading through the forum gives me an idea that this should work, but the question is, how easy is it to select the music and control playback? Going through the long list on by one using TV remote up/down keys does not look like an attractive option. Is it somehow more convenient than that?

More details of what I have:
Samsung UE40B7050 (tv)
DM800 (sat receiver, probably not relevant to JRiver, but it is on LAN and has Linux on it with tons of add-ons, widges)
ArvaniErgosound (soundbar, still to be bought)
MC12 (to be upgraded to MC15)
Windows Mobile device with NetRemote on it (works well to control audio streams)

Should the control via TV be slow, do I have an option to use my Windows Mobile to select song, control volume, etc while the actual stream would be played back on DLNA enabled TV? Controling MC via NetRemote is quite convenient.

bob · « **Reply #48 on:** September 27, 2010, 10:42:11 am »

Quote from: ajocius on September 27, 2010, 02:03:47 am

I am extending my house and working on the area where TV will be based in the bedroom. TV has DLNA and I would love to use MC15 to stream music. Reading through the forum gives me an idea that this should work, but the question is, how easy is it to select the music and control playback? Going through the long list on by one using TV remote up/down keys does not look like an attractive option. Is it somehow more convenient than that?

You can customize the views that MC gives to the TV so you can have just about any grouping you like.

ajocius · « **Reply #49 on:** September 27, 2010, 02:51:32 pm »

Quote from: bob on September 27, 2010, 10:42:11 am

You can customize the views that MC gives to the TV so you can have just about any grouping you like.

installed trial of MC15 and enabled DLNA. Samsung picked up library without any problems, found my music. I didn't load whole library, just few cd's, so library was loaded quickly on tv. I could only use tv remote to move through my library and this might be a bottleneck for biger library. This is why I try to get help here from more experienced users. I was not able to control playback on my tv by using web controls, but maybe I did't set it up correctly. Ideal for me would be to set up so that I turn media player on TV, which connects by default to MC15 library, but then I use my phone or pc to control library: selecting artist, album, controling volume, etc. Do you guys know if it is possible? That would enable me to skip one device in my set up. If this is not possible, I need to put a PC or drag audio cables from MC15 pc, both of wich are not that atractive....

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