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bspachman

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DVD Playback Failing in MC15 (worked in MC13)
« on: May 19, 2010, 12:02:22 am »

Hi all!

I've made the jump to MC15 from my old version of MC13. Things are going well (for the most part), but playback of ripped DVDs is eluding me. The following issue is rearing its head under Vista...

In version MC13..0.172 I have the following options defined:
   Playback->Video->DVD playback Settings...
   Video Decoder: 05. Automatic Selection
   Audio Decoder: 05. Automatic selection
   Video Renderer: Enhanced Video Renderer
   DVD Filters:   Default DirectSound Device
         Enhanced Video Renderer
         AC3Filter
         NVIDIA Video Decoder
         DVD Navigator

In version MC15.0.17 and MC15.0.46 I have the following options set:
   Video (DVD Video (ifo,vob)):
   Playback Method: Automatic
   Audio Decoders: Automatic
   Video Decoders: Automatic
   Video Renderer: Automatic

Choosing a ripped DVD file (Video_TS.ifo) in MC15 fails with the following error: "An error occurred preparing to play DVD video (error number: 200)"

Changing the video options to using DirectShow filters and choosing the NVIDIA filters installed on the system for both Audio & Video decoders and using the EVR renderer gives the same error...

Ideas?
brad

P.S. In 15.0.46, if you change the playback method for ifo/vob files in the 'File Types' Option sub-pane, the method doesn't stick. If you change it in the 'Video' sub-pane, the method DOES stick....
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Re: DVD Playback Failing in MC15 (worked in MC13)
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2010, 06:37:12 am »

I'm not sure whether the CCCP filters might help.  We'll take a look at what you've reported.  Thanks.
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Re: DVD Playback Failing in MC15 (worked in MC13)
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2010, 07:14:31 am »

Thanks, Jim.

CCCP shouldn't be a factor for me. The latest version (9/9/09) is installed on my system....

brad
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Re: DVD Playback Failing in MC15 (worked in MC13)
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2010, 07:22:26 am »

there is some info in this thread: http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=57277.0
i had to set the video decoder. automatic did not work

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Re: DVD Playback Failing in MC15 (worked in MC13)
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2010, 11:45:39 am »

Have you tried choosing AC3Filter in v15?

Or how about trying a different video decoder (ffdshow) for example?

Finally, did the solution here help this DVD problem:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=57725.msg391488#msg391488

Thanks.
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Re: DVD Playback Failing in MC15 (worked in MC13)
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2010, 10:27:28 pm »

Update....

As pointed out above, the solution (for now) is to manually set the Video Decoder to one that MC15 will work with. (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=57277.0)

For whatever reason, the decoders that functioned (ie, showed up in the graph when playing a DVD with MC13) do NOT appear to work with MC15. I had 5 choices in the "Video Decoder" menu. With MC15, the results are as follows:

Automatic - FAIL
ffdshow Video Decoder - FAIL
MPC - MPEG-2 Video Decoder (Gabest) - SUCCEED
Nero Subpicture Decoder - FAIL
NVIDIA Video Decoder - FAIL

The graph information for the working decoder is as follows:

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Filter Graph Info:

    Filter 'JRiver Audio Renderer'
        CLSID: {A4002F8E-510F-442C-8AD3-F9C7B23FB394}
        Host:
        Input Pin 'In'
            Connected to pin 'Out' of filter 'AC3Filter'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DOLBY_AC3_SPDIF, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx

    Filter 'Enhanced Video Renderer'
        CLSID: {FA10746C-9B63-4B6C-BC49-FC300EA5F256}
        Host: c:\windows\system32\evr.dll
        Input Pin 'EVR Input0'
            Connected to pin 'Output' of filter 'MPC - MPEG-2 Video Decoder (Gabest)'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_YV12, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo2
        Input Pin 'EVR Input1'
            Connected to pin 'XForm Out' of filter 'Line 21 Decoder 2'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_AI44, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo
        Input Pin 'EVR Input2'

    Filter 'Line 21 Decoder 2'
        CLSID: {E4206432-01A1-4BEE-B3E1-3702C8EDC574}
        Host: quartz.dll
        Input Pin 'XForm In'
            Connected to pin '~CC' of filter 'MPC - MPEG-2 Video Decoder (Gabest)'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_AUXLine21Data  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_Line21_GOPPacket, Format type FORMAT_None
        Output Pin 'XForm Out'
            Connected to pin 'EVR Input1' of filter 'Enhanced Video Renderer'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_AI44, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo

    Filter 'AC3Filter'
        CLSID: {A753A1EC-973E-4718-AF8E-A3F554D45C44}
        Host: c:\program files\ac3filter\ac3filter.ax
        Input Pin 'In'
            Connected to pin 'AC3' of filter 'DVD Navigator'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DOLBY_AC3, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx
        Output Pin 'Out'
            Connected to pin 'In' of filter 'JRiver Audio Renderer'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DOLBY_AC3_SPDIF, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx

    Filter 'MPC - MPEG-2 Video Decoder (Gabest)'
        CLSID: {39F498AF-1A09-4275-B193-673B0BA3D478}
        Host: c:\program files\combined community codec pack\filters\mpeg2decfilter.ax
        Input Pin 'Video'
            Connected to pin 'Video' of filter 'DVD Navigator'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2_VIDEO, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
        Output Pin 'Output'
            Connected to pin 'EVR Input0' of filter 'Enhanced Video Renderer'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_YV12, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo2
        Input Pin 'SubPicture'
            Connected to pin 'SubPicture' of filter 'DVD Navigator'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DVD_SUBPICTURE, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
        Output Pin '~CC'
            Connected to pin 'XForm In' of filter 'Line 21 Decoder 2'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_AUXLine21Data  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_Line21_GOPPacket, Format type FORMAT_None

    Filter 'DVD Navigator'
        CLSID: {9B8C4620-2C1A-11D0-8493-00A02438AD48}
        Host: qdvd.dll
        Output Pin 'Video'
            Connected to pin 'Video' of filter 'MPC - MPEG-2 Video Decoder (Gabest)'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2_VIDEO, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
        Output Pin 'AC3'
            Connected to pin 'In' of filter 'AC3Filter'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DOLBY_AC3, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx
        Output Pin 'SubPicture'
            Connected to pin 'SubPicture' of filter 'MPC - MPEG-2 Video Decoder (Gabest)'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DVD_SUBPICTURE, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO


With MC13, the same decoders are listed (in a different order) and the results are:

01. ffdshow - FAIL
02. NVIDIA - SUCCEED
03. MPC - SUCCEED
04. Nero - FAIL
05. Automatic - SUCCEED


So...thanks for the help in getting MC15 operation with DVDs, but do we have any ideas why "Automatic" or the NVIDIA decoders are failing on MC15?

Brad
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Re: DVD Playback Failing in MC15 (worked in MC13)
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2010, 11:29:24 pm »

We do some fancy filter change in order to avoid silent audio when Microsoft DTV-DVD audio decoder is automatically loaded.  I wonder if some other filters do not like what we do.  Do you use SPDIF?  If not, try selecting an audio decoder that is not Microsoft DTV-DVD audio decoder.

Regarding FFDShow video decoder, did you enable its MPEG-2 decoding capability?  In particular the checkbox for DVD?
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Re: DVD Playback Failing in MC15 (worked in MC13)
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2010, 08:06:59 am »

Thanks, Yaobing!

I can report that through PEBCAK, I had ffdshow's MPEG2 decoding disabled. Both MC13 & MC15 work fine with DVD files as long as either libavcodec or libmpeg2 are selected to decode MPEG2. (DVD decoding is also selected, as suggested).

As for the audio side of things, I DO use SPDIF. I don't even appear to have the Microsoft DTV-DVD audio decoder listed as a choice. Things appear to be sounding fine using "Automatic". The filter graph shows AC3Filter activated when playing. Other choices on my system include: ffdshow Audio Decoder, Nero Audio Decoder 2, and NVIDIA Audio Decoder.

brad
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Re: DVD Playback Failing in MC15 (worked in MC13)
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2010, 10:01:15 am »


As for the audio side of things, I DO use SPDIF. I don't even appear to have the Microsoft DTV-DVD audio decoder listed as a choice.

OK.  Your computer is XP?  All I said about Microsoft DTV-DVD audio decoder applies only to Vista and 7.

You can email me a log file so we can figure out why NVDIA decoder does not work.  yaobing at jriver dot com
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