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JTREX

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Silcon Dust HD Homerun "time out waiting for writer to start"
« on: February 24, 2011, 09:17:00 pm »

I am trying to get JT River Media Center version 15.0.174 setup and working.

I have a Silcon Dust HD Homerun dual tuner for tv hardware.

When I scan for channels it finds 60 channels and they seem correct. And the signal strength appears in the 90% +  area.

I dont have any program guide info setup and was hoping to just set a small handful of channels up and manually record.

When I double click on a channel I get the ".. waiting for writer to start" message. I see the channel LED selected on my tuner and so the hardware appears to be being accessed correctly.

While the program is waiting if I right click and show signal strength it shows very high,

One clue is that I recently wiped the slate clean on my computer. When I tried to get the HD homerun quick tv to work then it wouldnt work. They helped me diagnose that I had not installed any mpeg2 and ac3 driver. I had had them previously installed but after the wipe of my hard drive didnt realize I needed to install. They had been installed automatically with an old tv tuner card that I no longer was going to use.

So, I dont know a lot about this and somehow suspect that while I have set up some drivers for HD homerun that they are incorrect or insufficient for the media center.

Any help appreciated.

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Re: Trying Media center and get "time out waiting for writer to start"
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2011, 03:48:30 pm »

If you get "Time out waiting for writer to start" message, then the program has not yet gotten to the part that requires MPEG-2 video decoder and AC3 audio decoder.  So the problem may be something else.  In case you do need these decoders, you can install FFDShow.  You can try without time-shifting (Tools > Options... > Television > uncheck "start digital television in time-shifting mode" option) and see what happens.

Which country are you in?  If not in the United States (and other ATSC countries), are the channels you try to play encoded in MPEG-4 instead of MPEG-2?
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Re: Trying Media center and get "time out waiting for writer to start"
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2011, 10:47:51 pm »

Hi and thanks for responding on my question.

I did eventually install the mpeg 2 and ac3 drivers.

And I did not select  time shifting.

As far as country, I am in the USA and the tuner is set up to ATSC.

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Re: Trying Media center and get "time out waiting for writer to start"
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2011, 10:55:30 pm »

I have also been experiencing the same "time out waiting for writer to start" problem and after a good ten hours of serious frustration and failure  :-X I think I may need some assistance.

I have a Leadtek DTV 1000 S card and it seems to work fine with the supplied software. But with MC I can find all the channels but not view them, I get a black screen and the above message.

The Winfast software that came with the unit is really quite awful and I don't want to have to use it. MC is far better, I just need it to work.

Here is the filter info in case that helps.

Filter Graph Info (Time-shifting writer graph):

    Filter 'MJTSWriterFilter'
        CLSID: {CBE332C2-ED6F-482D-8497-AB51CA0419B7}
        Host: c:\program files\j river\media center 15\tv\mjtsfilewriter.ax
        Input Pin 'Input'
            Connected to pin '3' of filter 'MPEG-2 Demultiplexer'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2_AUDIO, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx
        Input Pin 'Input'
            Connected to pin '2' of filter 'MPEG-2 Demultiplexer'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2_VIDEO, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO

    Filter 'MPEG-2 Sections and Tables'
        CLSID: {C666E115-BB62-4027-A113-82D643FE2D99}
        Host: c:\windows\system32\mpeg2data.ax
        Input Pin 'In'
            Connected to pin '5' of filter 'MPEG-2 Demultiplexer'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_MPEG2_SECTIONS  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2DATA, Format type FORMAT_None

    Filter 'BDA IP Sink'
        CLSID: {17CCA71B-ECD7-11D0-B908-00A0C9223196}
        Host: ksproxy.ax
        Input Pin 'IPv4'
            Connected to pin 'IPv4' of filter 'BDA MPE Filter'
            Major type Unknown GUID Name: {E25F7B8E-CCCC-11D2-8F25-00C04F7971E2}  Sub type Unknown GUID Name: {5A9A213C-DB08-11D2-8F32-00C04F7971E2}, Format type Unknown GUID Name: {5A9A213C-DB08-11D2-8F32-00C04F7971E2}
        Output Pin 'Output1'

    Filter 'BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter'
        CLSID: {FC772AB0-0C7F-11D3-8FF2-00A0C9224CF4}
        Host: c:\windows\system32\psisrndr.ax
        Input Pin 'Input'
            Connected to pin '1' of filter 'MPEG-2 Demultiplexer'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_MPEG2_SECTIONS  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DVB_SI, Format type FORMAT_None

    Filter 'JRiver Transport Stream Writer'
        CLSID: {32147D78-FAF1-4394-A32C-B9BE9004B229}
        Host:
        Input Pin 'Input'
            Connected to pin 'Output1' of filter 'Infinite Tee'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Stream  Sub type Unknown GUID Name: {F4AEB342-0329-4FDD-A8FD-4AFF4926C978}, Format type FORMAT_None

    Filter 'BDA MPE Filter'
        CLSID: {17CCA71B-ECD7-11D0-B908-00A0C9223196}
        Host: ksproxy.ax
        Input Pin 'MPE'
            Connected to pin '4' of filter 'MPEG-2 Demultiplexer'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_MPEG2_SECTIONS  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_None, Format type FORMAT_None
        Output Pin 'IPv4'
            Connected to pin 'IPv4' of filter 'BDA IP Sink'
            Major type Unknown GUID Name: {E25F7B8E-CCCC-11D2-8F25-00C04F7971E2}  Sub type Unknown GUID Name: {5A9A213C-DB08-11D2-8F32-00C04F7971E2}, Format type Unknown GUID Name: {5A9A213C-DB08-11D2-8F32-00C04F7971E2}

    Filter 'MPEG-2 Demultiplexer'
        CLSID: {AFB6C280-2C41-11D3-8A60-0000F81E0E4A}
        Host: c:\windows\system32\mpg2splt.ax
        Input Pin 'MPEG-2 Stream'
            Connected to pin 'Output2' of filter 'Infinite Tee'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Stream  Sub type Unknown GUID Name: {F4AEB342-0329-4FDD-A8FD-4AFF4926C978}, Format type FORMAT_None
        Output Pin '1'
            Connected to pin 'Input' of filter 'BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_MPEG2_SECTIONS  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DVB_SI, Format type FORMAT_None
        Output Pin '2'
            Connected to pin 'Input' of filter 'MJTSWriterFilter'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2_VIDEO, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
        Output Pin '3'
            Connected to pin 'Input' of filter 'MJTSWriterFilter'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2_AUDIO, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx
        Output Pin '4'
            Connected to pin 'MPE' of filter 'BDA MPE Filter'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_MPEG2_SECTIONS  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_None, Format type FORMAT_None
        Output Pin '5'
            Connected to pin 'In' of filter 'MPEG-2 Sections and Tables'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_MPEG2_SECTIONS  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2DATA, Format type FORMAT_None

    Filter 'Infinite Tee'
        CLSID: {F8388A40-D5BB-11D0-BE5A-0080C706568E}
        Host: c:\windows\system32\qcap.dll
        Input Pin 'Input'
            Connected to pin 'MPEG2 Transport' of filter 'WinFast DTV1000 S BDA Digital Capture'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Stream  Sub type Unknown GUID Name: {F4AEB342-0329-4FDD-A8FD-4AFF4926C978}, Format type FORMAT_None
        Output Pin 'Output1'
            Connected to pin 'Input' of filter 'JRiver Transport Stream Writer'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Stream  Sub type Unknown GUID Name: {F4AEB342-0329-4FDD-A8FD-4AFF4926C978}, Format type FORMAT_None
        Output Pin 'Output2'
            Connected to pin 'MPEG-2 Stream' of filter 'MPEG-2 Demultiplexer'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Stream  Sub type Unknown GUID Name: {F4AEB342-0329-4FDD-A8FD-4AFF4926C978}, Format type FORMAT_None
        Output Pin 'Output3'

    Filter 'WinFast DTV1000 S BDA Digital Capture'
        CLSID: {17CCA71B-ECD7-11D0-B908-00A0C9223196}
        Host: ksproxy.ax
        Input Pin 'MPEG2 Transport'
            Connected to pin 'MPEG2 Transport' of filter 'WinFast DTV1000 S BDA DVBT Tuner'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Stream  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2_TRANSPORT, Format type Unknown GUID Name: {E06D8023-DB46-11CF-B4D1-00805F6CBBEA}
        Output Pin 'MPEG2 Transport'
            Connected to pin 'Input' of filter 'Infinite Tee'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Stream  Sub type Unknown GUID Name: {F4AEB342-0329-4FDD-A8FD-4AFF4926C978}, Format type FORMAT_None

    Filter 'WinFast DTV1000 S BDA DVBT Tuner'
        CLSID: {17CCA71B-ECD7-11D0-B908-00A0C9223196}
        Host: ksproxy.ax
        Input Pin 'Input0'
            Connected to pin 'Antenna Out' of filter 'Network Provider'
            Major type Unknown GUID Name: {71985F41-1CA1-11D3-9CC8-00C04F7971E0}  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_None, Format type FORMAT_None
        Output Pin 'MPEG2 Transport'
            Connected to pin 'MPEG2 Transport' of filter 'WinFast DTV1000 S BDA Digital Capture'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Stream  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2_TRANSPORT, Format type Unknown GUID Name: {E06D8023-DB46-11CF-B4D1-00805F6CBBEA}

    Filter 'Network Provider'
        CLSID: {216C62DF-6D7F-4E9A-8571-05F14EDB766A}
        Host: c:\windows\system32\msdvbnp.ax
        Output Pin 'Antenna Out'
            Connected to pin 'Input0' of filter 'WinFast DTV1000 S BDA DVBT Tuner'
            Major type Unknown GUID Name: {71985F41-1CA1-11D3-9CC8-00C04F7971E0}  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_None, Format type FORMAT_None
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Re: Trying Media center and get "time out waiting for writer to start"
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2011, 10:50:42 am »

I have also been experiencing the same "time out waiting for writer to start" problem and after a good ten hours of serious frustration and failure  :-X I think I may need some assistance.


We have had reports of problems from UK.  Which country are you in?  Do you have trouble with all channels?

To help us narrowing down the cause, please switch recording format from ts to jtv and see if it makes any difference.
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Re: Trying Media center and get "time out waiting for writer to start"
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2011, 06:09:49 am »

I am in Australia.

I have tried TS and JTV. But I will try again.

I had vision on one channel briefly after changing my settings but when I changed channels I lost that vision and could not get it back even if I returned to the same channel.

I tried uninstalling Winfast to see if there was a clash but that didn't help.

I've been through a lot of codecs and settings to no avail.
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Re: Trying Media center and get "time out waiting for writer to start"
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2011, 03:22:55 am »

I tried TS and it does have one difference to JTV.

With JTV the signal strength is always recorded as 0%, with TS it varies but is often at 100%. Sometimes with TS I can also get a record of the pixel rate, however to date I still get a blank screen.
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Re: Trying Media center and get "time out waiting for writer to start"
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2011, 02:57:54 am »

Try installing MC as an Admin (right click on the installer and "Run as Admin").  You only have to do this once and you may find the "time out waiting for writer to start" issue will stop.
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Re: Trying Media center and get "time out waiting for writer to start"
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2011, 06:15:56 am »

Thanks for the advice. It didn't work though.  :-\
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Re: Silcon Dust HD Homerun "time out waiting for writer to start"
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2011, 03:42:49 pm »

Mmm (I have the PAL Silcon Dust HD Homerun), and have found that the "time out" issue was either:
1) Firewall issues (try turning it OFF as a test)
2) Issues with permisions writting the TS Files (try turning off "Start digitial television in time-shifting mode" in the Television Options)
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Re: Silcon Dust HD Homerun "time out waiting for writer to start"
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2011, 09:38:55 pm »

Again no luck with those tweaks.

I'm a week out now from installing the card and still can't use it as I would like.
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Re: Silcon Dust HD Homerun "time out waiting for writer to start"
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2011, 03:12:45 am »

Has there been any progress with these issues? As I gather I am not alone in experiencing them.

I would really like to have an integrated Media Center running but at present it appears as though that is not possible.
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