Topic: NEW: Blu-ray Menu Support (Beta) (Read 20476 times)

Hendrik · « **Reply #150 on:** February 24, 2018, 09:54:40 am »

I might make a dedicated thread to document discs which don't work at all, not sure yet. Might be good to keep track of those to avoid constant repeated reports.

jmone · « **Reply #151 on:** March 02, 2018, 10:52:25 pm »

MC crashes when trying to play BD/50p HDMV (home video authored with PowerDirector). Looking at the log, there is a "libbluray/bdnav/bdmv_parse.c:66: bdmv_parse_header(MPLS): unsupported file version 0240" and a couple of lines latter, "Unhandled exception -- program crashing". This format is really the updated BD spec that MC/LAV added some years ago for progressive 50/60.

Note: If I edit the *.clpi and *.mpls headers from 0240 to 0200 it plays fine.

Hendrik · « **Reply #152 on:** March 03, 2018, 01:11:48 am »

The crash dump would be more useful then the log in such cases.

jmone · « **Reply #153 on:** March 03, 2018, 05:00:00 am »

Ack - Here is the whole zip file including the crash dump.

jmone · « **Reply #154 on:** March 08, 2018, 02:16:03 am »

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5. NEW: Chapter information is available when playing a Blu-ray with Menus

I'm not sure what I'm looking for. I don't see any Chapter Info in either the MC OSD or the Right Click menu. |<< and >>| also takes you to the start / end.

jmone · « **Reply #155 on:** March 08, 2018, 02:40:45 am »

Is it possible to "relax" the Menu support to include UHD BD? As a test, I took "10 Cloverfield Lane" UHD and eddied the headers of index.bdmv, MovieObject.bdmv, *.mpls, *.bdjo, *.clpi from xxxx0300 to xxxx0200 (eg from UHD to BD) and it played fine. I know that it may not work for some/many but I'd be happy to test all of my 60+ UHDs and report back.

Hendrik · « **Reply #156 on:** March 08, 2018, 02:51:01 am »

Chapters work fine for me. Started a random Blu-ray and chapters are in the OSD and in the context menu.

No plans for UHD BD. Its too risky to cause crashes etc.

jmone · « **Reply #157 on:** March 08, 2018, 03:02:21 am »

OK - Rechecked a few different BDs - About half have a Chapter Jump To menu, the others don't. Do you want logs or ?

On the UHD Menu - Don't Wuss out on me now! Lets give it a go

before V24 goes public. I'm happy to test all of my UHDs and report back if you could produce a build that relaxes support. This way would would have a very good idea of how well it works or not on UHD BD.

jmone · « **Reply #158 on:** March 08, 2018, 03:05:08 am »

Quote from: jmone on March 03, 2018, 05:00:00 am

Ack - Here is the whole zip file including the crash dump.

Not sure if you have had a chance to look at this one but it V24.03 still crashes on 240 headers

jmone · « **Reply #159 on:** March 08, 2018, 03:31:24 am »

...on some of the BD's that do work with Chapter Support it not only works great and even triggers is a BD Pop Up Menu showing the location! Nice

jmone · « **Reply #160 on:** March 08, 2018, 03:42:04 am »

..also resume playback works surprisingly well on many discs

Hendrik · « **Reply #161 on:** March 08, 2018, 04:20:11 am »

The crash fix will need an update for libbluray, it appears. Will have to wait until I roll one of those out.
Chapters on BD-J discs should work better in the next version.

jmone · « **Reply #162 on:** March 08, 2018, 04:33:09 am »

Sounds good.

On the UHD ...I could try modding all my UHD headers and test if you want... but this would be a PITA, I'd would prefer if you could have a "relaxed" build to test but up to you.

jmone · « **Reply #163 on:** March 08, 2018, 04:37:25 pm »

UHD Testing : I wrote a little parser to speed up the changing of the headers from 0300 to 0200.

Good News : 0 Crashes out of 24 UHD patched discs so far. It seems that there are about 3 different authoring progs out there by the look of feel of these discs. No issues with Menu, Pop Up Menu etc all working (and the good thing is all the pop up menus can be removed with the down arrow key).

As with BD testing, I did see some issues:
- 1 disc did not display a menu, just the background video (Pacific Rim)
- Several discs still got "stuck" with the opening black screen issues (will test on another PC).
- On some discs there were some visual corruption in the top right when transitioning from one Still to the Next (eg those little "warnings" screen shots at the beginning - both with RO and ROHQ).

In general how do you want me to test, debug, report etc? ... especially the Stuck/Black Screen ones? I've attached the log from HP Deathly Hallows Part 1 as an example

jmone · « **Reply #164 on:** March 08, 2018, 04:41:24 pm »

...and here is the log from Pacific Rim that did not show a menu at all (just the background video/audio)

jmone · « **Reply #165 on:** March 08, 2018, 08:31:23 pm »

Tested all 63 UHD Discs that I currently have and None crashed MC. That said about
- About 1/3rd had the black screen stall issue
- 1 had the no Menu Issue
- 3 had an unselectable OK Button (see below)
- Several had some video corruption on the transition between the static "warning" type notices at the beginning (don't care) in the top left quarter

3 discs have an identical opening segment (saying best with an HDR TV blah blah) with an OK button that can not be selected (MC is pausing/unpausing). Looks like MC does not know it is in a BD Menu at this point. Log attached.

Edit - I also think you only need to modify index.bdmv from 0300 to 0200 to get the BD Menu function working on UHD (not every other header).

SamuriHL · « **Reply #166 on:** March 08, 2018, 09:26:25 pm »

That's rather neat. I may have to try that.

jmone · « **Reply #167 on:** March 09, 2018, 05:24:23 pm »

24.0.4 - Chapters : It's weird. I ran a few discs that did not have chapters but on a 2nd play they did. Others still refuse to show chapters. The only thing I can think of it has something to do with Bookmarks / Resume playback as I notice that on the ones that did start working the Bookmark was cleared between runs but.... no idea really.

jmone · « **Reply #168 on:** March 09, 2018, 10:11:48 pm »

For those that want to test how BD Menus work on UHD BD at this stage, I've cleaned up my scripts. Just add them to the "Send To" menu in MC as follows

Name: UHD Menu Off
Program Path: ....whatever path you saved it in...\UHD_Menu_Off.exe
Parameters: "[Filename]" (eg this is the default)

Name: UHD Menu On
Program Path: ....whatever path you saved it in...\UHD_Menu_On.exe
Parameters: "[Filename]" (eg this is the default)

You can then select one or more UHD item(s) in MC then right click --> Send To--> Send To (external)--> UHD Menu On or UHD Menu OFF.

The attachment as both compiled exe and the AHK script so you can see what it does.... which is really just changing the header in index.bdmv from 0300 to 0200 and back again (0300 is used to identify a disc as UHD BD, and 0200 is for BD).

CountryBumkin · « **Reply #169 on:** March 10, 2018, 05:19:31 pm »

The Disney WOW (HDTV Setup) BD disc menu does not work.
The intro screen comes up and plays the scrolling background image with sound but there is no menu shown. It takes about 9 seconds for this disc to display anything. The first screen then says "to expect delays of upto 2 or 3 minutes while the program is loads depending on BD player". Then it goes to the FBI warning screen, then to the Disney Home Entertainment ad screen. Lastly, the screen goes blank for about 9 seconds then the menu background (a moving landscape scene with music) comes up (but the actual menu text does not display). That is where the program stays (loops this menu screen).

The Spears & Munsil (HDTV Benchmark BD Edition) menus work properly.

Hendrik · « **Reply #170 on:** March 10, 2018, 05:47:03 pm »

I don't have that Disney disc, and its positively too expensive to buy around here. Apparently out of production?

Edit:
I managed to find a copy and it works fine here. The menu shows up in the screen you said it should.

jmone · « **Reply #171 on:** March 10, 2018, 08:34:57 pm »

It's great how you can switch between Title Playback and BD Menus but, the "Switch to Title Playback" option is missing on the MC OSD (add to Blu Ray Menu I guess?). That way if there is a "stalled disc" you can switch to Title Playback using the RC (you can already go the other way). Also it takes a fair bit of time to switch back and forth and you don't get any visual confirmation that MC is doing anything (perhaps an OSD msg saying Switching Menu or something like that would work).

Thanks
Nathan

CountryBumkin · « **Reply #172 on:** March 11, 2018, 06:33:34 pm »

Disney WOW doesn't work for me. Sorry I'm not computer literate enough to be any of any use.
I captured a log. I see a lot of errors, but I don't know if they are relevant to the problem.

Hendrik · « **Reply #173 on:** March 12, 2018, 03:09:03 am »

Which version of Java do you have? Something seems to be going wrong there. But a future version will ship a known working Java version, so hopefully we can avoid such problems then.

CountryBumkin · « **Reply #174 on:** March 12, 2018, 05:16:46 am »

I have version 8 installed - at least I thought I did. There is a folder under Program Files>Java>jre1.8.0_161 but there are only a couple of files in it and a subdirectory.

When I type "Java -version" at the command prompt the command "java" is not recognized.

So I deleted the subfolder(s) under Java, and reinstalled Java, and this time it is working (version jre 1.8.0_161).

Now the Disney WOW disc menus work. Also the WOW starts playing very quickly now (no more 9 second delay) and the menus come up quickly.

Hendrik · « **Reply #175 on:** March 12, 2018, 05:48:06 am »

Sounds good. Also confirms that shipping our own working Java is probably a really good idea to avoid support issues.

jmone · « **Reply #176 on:** March 15, 2018, 04:11:51 am »

I think it is a good idea to ship a know version of Java as well. Mine is 1.8.0_151-b12 if it matters.

Hendrik · « **Reply #177 on:** March 21, 2018, 06:15:42 am »

The next build will now install its own private copy of Java. Its not registered with the OS in any way, and only MC knows it exists. Outside of being used for BD-J, it will not have any influence on the system, security or otherwise.
Unfortunately its pretty big, ~60mb or so, so the first time playing a Blu-ray you'll probably see the dependency installation screen. But I don't expect that version to be changing too often.

rlebrette · « **Reply #178 on:** March 22, 2018, 02:22:36 am »

Quote from: Hendrik on March 21, 2018, 06:15:42 am

Unfortunately its pretty big, ~60mb or so, so the first time playing a Blu-ray you'll probably see the dependency installation screen. But I don't expect that version to be changing too often.

The main concern with MC lazy downloading feature is that there's no progress, so we never know where we are. These days 60mb is loaded fast at least in my country.

mattkhan · « **Reply #179 on:** March 22, 2018, 03:13:20 am »

It would nice to have the option in the installer to eagerly add selected optional components

mattkhan · « **Reply #180 on:** March 26, 2018, 03:37:15 am »

I wasn't sure whether to log this as a bug or as a missing feature, I guess it's the latter given the early stage of development so I thought I'd post this here

if you have BD menus on and play a particle created from a BD then it launches the BD menu rather than simply playing the content defined by that particle

I think the preferred behaviour is not to treat such library items as a BD, just play them back as is irrespective of the BD menu option state.

RoderickGI · « **Reply #181 on:** March 26, 2018, 04:53:29 pm »

Quote from: mattkhan on March 26, 2018, 03:37:15 am

I think the preferred behaviour is not to treat such library items as a BD, just play them back as is irrespective of the BD menu option state.

Or set the BD menu to "Ask" and respond "No" for particles?

That situation seems a perfect reason to have the Ask ability for BD menus.

Hendrik · « **Reply #182 on:** March 26, 2018, 04:55:51 pm »

I think particles should be excluded from menu playback, since they are specifically designed to target specific parts of the disc, which menu playback would flat out ignore. So I'll probably do that, somehow.
If you run a particle and then decide that you want the Menu anyway, there is always the option in the OSD to switch over.

jmone · « **Reply #183 on:** March 26, 2018, 07:33:58 pm »

+1 Particles are Particles.

jmone · « **Reply #184 on:** March 29, 2018, 03:08:43 pm »

V24.0.8 Quick Test (all good!):
- Particles play without menu
- Java downloads and work (it was 190mb for me - java64)

Could you also look at adding "Switch to Title Playback" to the MC OSD?

Thanks
Nathan

Hendrik · « **Reply #185 on:** March 29, 2018, 03:14:26 pm »

Its 190mb unpacked, but much smaller compressed.

jmone · « **Reply #186 on:** March 29, 2018, 03:55:12 pm »

No probs + it makes sense to do it as a plug in.

Is there anything else that needs testing? Do you want a list of discs that have issues, logs etc?

Hendrik · « **Reply #187 on:** March 29, 2018, 04:10:34 pm »

Reporting discs with issues never hurts, with logs if possible. Not sure how much we'll be able to do about all the things, but better knowing than not. No manually enabled UHD BD-J discs though!

jmone · « **Reply #188 on:** March 29, 2018, 04:14:06 pm »

on the UHD.

I'll work through the normal BD and generate a list of any with initial playback issues are first. Then grab logs for any you want.

jmone · « **Reply #189 on:** March 29, 2018, 05:26:07 pm »

Quick test over the first 80 BDs but it gives a good overview. All I really tested was to see if playback of the main movie would start.

Main issues were with these titles:
- American Beauty: Freeze at end of opening 10 sec splash screen (MC Hang)
- 71: Freeze on start
- The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert: Freeze on start
- 8 Mile: Freeze post menu (and warnings)
- 21 Jump Street: MC Hangs when BD Menu asks to resume and you select No

Also had No Chapters / Jump to Menu on 16 titles.

Let me know which ones you want logs for.

jmone · « **Reply #190 on:** March 29, 2018, 05:28:14 pm »

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25. Changed: Blu-ray Menu Playback is disabled when playing a Particle (either Title or Playback Range based Particle).

This works if BD Menu is set to "Ask". If BD Menu is set to "On" then particles fail to play with a "Something went wrong with playback" error.

Hendrik · « **Reply #191 on:** March 30, 2018, 05:36:07 am »

Quote from: jmone on March 29, 2018, 05:26:07 pm

- American Beauty: Freeze at end of opening 10 sec splash screen (MC Hang)
- 21 Jump Street: MC Hangs when BD Menu asks to resume and you select No

I may have different releases of those discs, but at least those play fine. Does that happen everytime?
With Hang do you mean that MC itself totally dies and needs to be killed? If so, please get it into that state and open the task manager, and in the Details listing right-click the process and use "Create dump file". Dumps created that way can be quite large, but usually compress well.

Quote from: jmone on March 29, 2018, 05:28:14 pm

This works if BD Menu is set to "Ask". If BD Menu is set to "On" then particles fail to play with a "Something went wrong with playback" error.

I can't reproduce that, and I honestly don't see how that would ever happen. At worst it should play the menu when it shouldn't.
Tried Time and Title particles, and one that does both.

jmone · « **Reply #192 on:** March 30, 2018, 04:52:27 pm »

Here is the log (see previous) for the 21 Jump Street MC Hang:
- Play BD (starts playing fine but at the "resume" point)
- BD Menu pops up asking if you want to resume
- Say No
- Playback Stops but Time code continues in the top UI
- Press Stop etc and MC Hangs (needs to be forced closed)

jmone · « **Reply #193 on:** March 30, 2018, 04:53:24 pm »

I'll grab the dump file and test the others / report back - got to go out for a bit.

jmone · « **Reply #194 on:** March 30, 2018, 07:13:35 pm »

Quote from: Hendrik on March 30, 2018, 05:36:07 am

I can't reproduce that, and I honestly don't see how that would ever happen. At worst it should play the menu when it shouldn't.
Tried Time and Title particles, and one that does both.

Here is a log showing it playing with ASK and failing with ON. It's a Chapter Based BD Particle from a Music BD.

jmone · « **Reply #195 on:** March 30, 2018, 07:21:45 pm »

Quote from: jmone on March 30, 2018, 04:52:27 pm

Here is the log (see previous) for the 21 Jump Street MC Hang:
- Play BD (starts playing fine but at the "resume" point)
- BD Menu pops up asking if you want to resume
- Say No
- Playback Stops but Time code continues in the top UI
- Press Stop etc and MC Hangs (needs to be forced closed)

Here is a Dump File - https://jmone.org/nextcloud/index.php/s/9rAksbJxPxKSRLQ (148MB)

jmone · « **Reply #196 on:** March 30, 2018, 07:26:28 pm »

Re: American Beauty. Retested, and This one now just stalls with a black screen and 0:00 - Live like others but did not hang MC. Last time it actually played the intro then it hung MC. No idea why it is different that time.

Out of interest do you get many stall with the "0:00 - Live / Black screen" from your collection?

jmone · « **Reply #197 on:** March 31, 2018, 01:52:23 am »

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12. NEW: Java for Blu-ray Menu playback is downloaded and installed automatically like other playback dependencies.

Updated to 24.0.9 on a HTPC and when playing a BD it downloaded the Java Runtime but then came up with an error saying I needed to install Java. Deleted the Java folder in the Plug-In folder but it was a rinse and repeat. Also tried the same with the HTPC with a local library, but same error so it is not a Library Server Client thing. Log attached (it will show a HDMV playing then a Java failing).

Hendrik · « **Reply #198 on:** March 31, 2018, 03:36:58 am »

Quote from: jmone on March 31, 2018, 01:52:23 am

Updated to 24.0.9 on a HTPC and when playing a BD it downloaded the Java Runtime but then came up with an error saying I needed to install Java. Deleted the Java folder in the Plug-In folder but it was a rinse and repeat. Also tried the same with the HTPC with a local library, but same error so it is not a Library Server Client thing. Log attached (it will show a HDMV playing then a Java failing).

I tried both 64-bit and 32-bit versions, and in both cases Java installed and worked fine. Not running into AV issues or anything, are we?

Its not trying to re-download Java everytime you launch a BD, right? Just fails at loading it?

Hendrik · « **Reply #199 on:** March 31, 2018, 04:17:20 am »

One thought, apparently the JVM requires the 2010 C runtime, so maybe we need to include that.
Actually it appears its present, but not in the right folder? Silly Java.

Can you try this?
- Go to: C:\Users\...\AppData\Roaming\J River\Media Center 24\Plugins\java|java64\bin\
- Find msvcr100.dll
- Copy it to the "client" or "server" sub-folder in that same directory (where jvm.dll lives) (client on 32-bit, server on 64-bit)

See if that helps? If it does, may need to re-package the zip with that in place.

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