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Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« on: July 01, 2022, 09:29:14 am »

It's been pointed out a few times that we often get something started, but never come back to it to finish the work.  Here's your chance to "suggest" we take a second look.

For example, when I recently used the Camera > Acquire Images to copy new images from my Android phone, a Pixel 6, I found two problems.

1.  No images were found.  I tried to edit the location (\DCIM) but nothing was shown.  It turned out that Android needed to be told to allow file transfer, not just charge with USB (the default).

2.  Images on Android that have been deleted were just renamed .trash something, not removed from the phone, so they were copied again.

3.  Images that were screenshots were copied a second time (similar to #2).

[Edit: also see darichman's post below.]

Please post your own suggestion or two.


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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2022, 09:56:22 am »

Putting back the space after the semi-colon whenever Semi-Colon Delimited Lists are Displayed - they are certainly missing in the PlayerBar Display Panel and the Status Bar.

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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2022, 10:22:51 am »

Right now these things came into my mind:

1. Particles would be classic example here I think  ;) There a lot of old threads about the bugs/shortcoming about particles in the forum which can be discovered if it would get selected to be worked on.

2. List Style Tiles displayed fields are left hard coded which is hindering the potential of the list style

3. Artist images in the playing now could use some last touches. Maybe add option to use some transition filter and/or e.g. ken burns effect
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2022, 11:24:21 am »

The new Streaming  interface cannot be customized. The view always shows the default icons and does not honor the preferred selections you make in the tree. 

Good idea

So, the View has icons you do not want and you cannnot remove them. You can remove them from the tree display but not the main view display. And new streaming entries that you add do not show up in the main view.  That means that the list in the tree is the only UI you can use.  Since the main view is static it is not very useful.   And, you should be able to add an icon ("coverart") for stations you add, so they can be displayed.

Given that the View is the main display, it should honor the customization settings that the user selects.
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2022, 11:33:29 am »

Solution for AC-4 audio in ATSC 3.0 tv channels:
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,125024.0.html
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2022, 05:47:18 pm »

It would be great if the PixOS skin was changed to clearly show which track is playing and to be able to see the track rating when a track is selected.  The colors are just too close to be able to see the distinction and the ratings.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/g4aqs03x0n3ojht/MC-PixOS.jpg?dl=0

Good idea
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2022, 01:31:00 am »

OS interop at the path level is a subject that has come up repeatedly and remains a major flaw in cross platform use

https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,112840.0.html
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=121740.0
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=116504.0

I agree with Jim when he said

I agree.  It's time we found a solution.
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2022, 01:34:49 am »

The missing audio input/loopback capabilities on Linux and Mac is another major piece of missing functionality which means those versions are left as 2nd class citizens. It would be a good gap to fill.

Good idea
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2022, 04:20:08 am »

...For example, when I recently used the Camera > Acquire Images to copy new images from my Android phone, a Pixel 6, I found two problems...

I will just add one more point to your android import items - I still get dodgy dates for videos when I import from android (or from a camera SD etc)

See post from 2012 here

Could be reported as a bug in the build threads
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2022, 04:42:34 am »

Any chance we can get better Chapter navigation as discussed here -

https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,120543.msg833397.html#msg833397

Cheers,
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2022, 04:06:48 pm »

Text Expansion in Tab Thumbnail Views:  Several of my Thumbnail View tabs include the album name as one of the text lines.  This text line often gets cut off because its length exceeds the available space between thumbnails.  When mouse hovers over a thumbnail image, the text should expand into into a tool-tip-like display whenever any line overflows the available space.  The need for expansion will vary of course, depending on both length of line and number of thumbnails displayed.

Note the requested behavior is exactly what happens in the tree view, where text expansion occurs depending on width of the tree view pane.  It also happens in Details view in the main window, depending on column width.  Now long over due for consistency and to eliminate user frustration, please bring the same behavior to thumbnail text in the main window.
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2022, 10:27:02 am »

Reminder of two recent subjects which IMO are "Unfinished Work":

Feature Request: Add a History menu item to the active Tab hover menu
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,133399.msg924116.html#msg924116

Feature Request: Improved control over cover art size display in Standard View
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,132852.msg920586.html#msg920586
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2022, 10:38:15 am »

I'd appreciate a focus on unfinished work we need to look at.  No general feature requests, please.
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2022, 11:12:42 am »

One small piece of "finish" that I would greatly appreciate is the issue discussed in this thread: https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,132682.0.html

To summarize, spotlight (and other features that rely on the embedded browser) is hard to use on Linux with a 4k monitor because the embedded browser renders very small and can't be zoomed or scaled up by any of the usual methods.  It's hard to read at normal monitor distance and is completely illegible from the couch.  I'd be happy with either of the fixes discussed in that thread (a setting on the page, or just reusing MC's own scaling settings on Linux).

The missing audio input/loopback capabilities on Linux and Mac is another major piece of missing functionality which means those versions are left as 2nd class citizens. It would be a good gap to fill.
OS interop at the path level is a subject that has come up repeatedly and remains a major flaw in cross platform use

https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,112840.0.html
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=121740.0
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=116504.0

I'll second that both of these would also be very nice steps towards cross-platform parity as well.
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2022, 11:23:11 am »

JRemote2, Android.

1. Timed image sideshows do not work. You must skip between images manually.
2. No full-screen image playback, they're only ol the left half. Even just centering would be nice.

Hendrik promised to finish these, but unfortunately seems to have been distracted by JRVR.

#1 should be a 10 min job, #2 is likely to be longer.

Good idea
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2022, 05:08:09 pm »

I've got 3 items.

1) Rip with MakeMKV - When auto importing the newly ripped mkv file, MC doesn't honor the tagging rules set in the Auto Import configuration.

Good idea

2) Online Media Slideshow - In Theater View I often notice that many of the background images, particularly for movies, have tag lines that are in alternate languages other than English. Could we localize this somehow?

3) Spotlight - Too early? :-) When navigating using the keyboard arrows, if you move to the bottom row of files, the cursor in Theater View doesn't move the screen down enough to read the name of the files. Instead you have to arrow down a couple of more times until you get to the Refresh link, then back up in order to see the row top to bottom.

Please report in the SL thread.

Thanks!
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2022, 05:17:03 pm »

This is the subject of this thread:

If you want to request something else, please use another thread. 

Put very simply, we cannot do everything you can imagine.

In a previous suggestion thread, you indicated your priority for addressing each item. It was very useful to know what your thinking was. For this one, I would suggest something like

Not Finished - Will Address
Not Finished - Will Consider
Not Finished - Not a Priority
Feature Request
Possible Bug?
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2022, 08:34:41 pm »

Particles - I've put links in the Wiki of the limitations (at the bottom) - https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Particles
Remux Video - Especially for JTV
Atmos/DTS-X Detection (and bitstreaming option) - ffmpeg/probe still can not do this but media info can
Live TV in JRemote2- now EOS has gone, there are no remotes that can stream live TV
Share Web Link - I'm still using NextCloud as MC does not convert video to a web friendly link, and maintaining SSL certs is manual

We'll take a look
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2022, 10:50:49 am »

OS interop at the path level is a subject that has come up repeatedly and remains a major flaw in cross platform use

https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,112840.0.html
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=121740.0
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=116504.0

I agree with Jim when he said

Some work was done on this in the last two weeks.
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2022, 10:41:14 am »

Diversion is a nice feature but misses perhaps the most common use case: diversion between remote and MC
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2022, 02:27:25 pm »

It would be great if the PixOS skin was changed to clearly show which track is playing and to be able to see the track rating when a track is selected.  The colors are just too close to be able to see the distinction and the ratings.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/g4aqs03x0n3ojht/MC-PixOS.jpg?dl=0

Good idea

Could you edit the skin and provide the updated XML?  If it looks good, we'll include it.  Thanks!
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2022, 02:48:01 am »

Quote
A library server client appears to be able to act as a library server in it's own right. (enter it's access key)
Surely this should be disabled?

Marko remarked that he has a use-case for this, by using an authenticated client to serve an unauthenticated (hence read-only) library copy.

The user access model thus could do with a little expansion from the current single user model, hence these proposed types:
1. Authenticated (full access)
2. Authenticated (update play-counts / ratings only)
3. Authenticated (read-only)
4. Unathenticated (full-access)
5. Unauthenticated (update play-counts / ratings only)
6. Unauthenticated (read-only)

Whilst you could go somewhat more granular with permissions (ability to update each field Y/N basically) on a per-user basis, this would seem to be the simplest way to make a real improvement to the server capabilities.
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2022, 03:03:31 am »

When I made the feature request to put playlist links on the toolbar, I also asked for views to be available too.  Views was never implemented (perhaps there was a good reason not to), but I still have views I want to put on my toolbar, and thus it feels like 'unfinished work' to me ;)
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2022, 03:04:41 am »

I posted about this once though I can't find it now

one of the major things missing for me, with respect to MC as a real server app, is the complete lack of visibility on what a client is doing nor any controls to constrain that. For example, which clients (their IP minimally, some identifier preferably) are connected? what are they playing? how much load do they put on the server? It's basic info really but it's not visible.
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2022, 08:25:19 am »

I posted about this once though I can't find it now

one of the major things missing for me, with respect to MC as a real server app, is the complete lack of visibility on what a client is doing nor any controls to constrain that. For example, which clients (their IP minimally, some identifier preferably) are connected? what are they playing? how much load do they put on the server? It's basic info really but it's not visible.
I'll split this, but there are a couple things that might help.

Authentication   https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Media_Server

Users  https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Users

The log shows activity.  https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Logging

Reporter (under Services & Plug-ins in the tree)    https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Reporter




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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2022, 02:10:35 pm »

One small bit of functionality that I liked in the original JRemote was the ability to add now playing files to playlists. I believe this was mentioned a year or two ago as being on the list and then again recently. I know M4OMedia does it, but I much prefer the JRemote2 interface and would like to see this functionality returned/finished.
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2022, 04:12:20 pm »

Cloudplay browsing could use some polishing. Right now it is hard to know what songs are where without guessing and trying different playlists out, which is fun of course... But I look at all the browsing tools available in jriver, and all the view customization tools, and the huge cloudplay library, and wonder what else is possible...
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2022, 04:29:59 pm »

Cloudplay browsing could use some polishing. Right now it is hard to know what songs are where without guessing and trying different playlists out, which is fun of course... But I look at all the browsing tools available in jriver, and all the view customization tools, and the huge cloudplay library, and wonder what else is possible...
The reason we can provide it for donations is that the license is more like radio than play on demand.  It doesn't allow a precise search for a single song.
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #28 on: July 21, 2022, 06:01:40 pm »

JRemote2: Audio bookmarks, last I checked this wasn't working still. If they apply on the PC side seems like the app should be able to read them?
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #29 on: July 21, 2022, 09:34:34 pm »

Panel needs some work. It is still crude-looking and lacks quite a few functions (such as stop after current file).
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #30 on: July 22, 2022, 06:23:22 pm »

The mouse back button does not back you out of Spotlight unless the pointer is over in the Tree area. This in inconsistent with how it works out of Spotlight.
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #31 on: July 23, 2022, 09:07:43 am »

Standard View: Groups
The group thumbnail should act like a tile. You should be able to double click on it to play the whole group. There should be a "tag" link on it to be able to tag the whole group. When you hover over it you should get the same pop up as when hovering over an album thumbnail.


In fact, groups and album thumbnails features should be merged into just groups. There should be a toggle somewhere for toggling between a Groups (thumbnails) and Groups (details) view which essentially would be toggling between album thumbnail and details views.
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #32 on: July 23, 2022, 11:04:59 pm »

When playing a movie using showtime, MC should automatically start the movie from the beginning without a prompt. It should never resume from the bookmark.
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #33 on: July 24, 2022, 03:34:35 am »

Classical Music length of Name field and Track # + Movement Name exceeds the 256 character limit often

In the Opera genre I have many compositions where the Album Name + Track# + Movement Name exceeds the 256 characters. I have many compositions where the name has more than 256 characters (include Roles and comments).

Should the the filename only contain the movement # and not the movement?

I found that unfinished and IT should support the music and not the other way round.
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #34 on: July 24, 2022, 03:48:52 am »

Classical Music length of Name field and Track # + Movement Name exceeds the 256 character limit often

In the Opera genre I have many compositions where the Album Name + Track# + Movement Name exceeds the 256 characters. I have many compositions where the name has more than 256 characters (include Roles and comments).

Should the the filename only contain the movement # and not the movement?

I found that unfinished and IT should support the music and not the other way round.

Filename limit to 255 characters is a file system limitation, and not anything MC has any influence over.
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #35 on: July 24, 2022, 05:52:53 am »

Yes I know about the 256 character limit, but I expect some other solution e.g that you could choose that MC generates a unique filename ID and to that ID you have a side car file with that ID where you can put large text's into it or something similar. Feel free to generate ideas .-)
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #36 on: July 24, 2022, 07:32:57 am »

Try
Tools > Options >General >Advanced > Support Long Filenames
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #37 on: July 24, 2022, 07:54:39 am »

Thank's JimH. I really forgot that feature. Sorry!
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #38 on: July 24, 2022, 08:19:01 am »

Undo/Redo description is a little bit useless at its current form as it doesn't really say anything useful for the user to determine what is going to happen when doing undo/redo.
Of course if you just want to undo one step which you just did then you already know what's going to happen if you undo but then you don't need the description anyway.

If you could be a little more specific what operation is going to be undo/redo it would be great.
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #39 on: July 29, 2022, 07:21:19 pm »

The reason we can provide it for donations is that the license is more like radio than play on demand.  It doesn't allow a precise search for a single song.
Thanks for the clarification. That makes total sense, and it's really great that you are able to build this using an economical license.

Any chance you make the playlists a bit more transparent to browse in JRemote and Panel? For example, in addieto Playlist Title,  perhaps list the top 3-5 artists in the playlist?
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #40 on: August 11, 2022, 11:46:45 pm »

Right now these things came into my mind:

1. Particles would be classic example here I think  ;) There a lot of old threads about the bugs/shortcoming about particles in the forum which can be discovered if it would get selected to be worked on.

2. List Style Tiles displayed fields are left hard coded which is hindering the potential of the list style

3. Artist images in the playing now could use some last touches. Maybe add option to use some transition filter and/or e.g. ken burns effect

I second the need for the Particles

Particles is a great feature which can be used to create searchable scene video libraries (footage / video clip / Movie clip libraries, or sound libraries) but is actually difficult to work with because it takes too much time for each particle to be created.

The following feature ("Video Editor-like" as Jmone characterised it) can tackle this problem.

I suggest an advanced menu (buttons appearing close to the video playing buttons) that will have the following buttons and text fields "Particle Start", "End", "(re)name, "Add", "Keywords"(customizable field or optional Library fields), and maybe -+ for adding; so that we can do it while playing the file. By pressing "Add" the particle can be added to library, or/and to a "new particles" playlist).
Additionally:
 - Ability to export them together with their playlist to portable devices/
(Also here jmone suggested that MC "convert" functions, on a particle(s) can be used to get new files that can be used from portable devices)
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #41 on: September 08, 2022, 01:40:32 pm »

May be I am wrong - but for DSD over DLNA it is not possible to bitstream e.g DSD up to DSD64 else convert to pcm. Using USB, AES as audio Interface this is possible.
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #42 on: September 08, 2022, 03:41:09 pm »

May be I am wrong - but for DSD over DLNA it is not possible to bitstream e.g DSD up to DSD64 else convert to pcm. Using USB, AES as audio Interface this is possible.

Under Media Network the setup for the DLNA server has an advanced option to do DSD over DoP.  If you do not check that it sends  native DSD. So, it should not be converting to PCM. And, the conversion option needs to be set to Original.
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #43 on: September 09, 2022, 11:29:03 am »

That is not what I asked. If Using DLNA and bitstreamin DSD you can not configure it like this: If dsd64 bitstream else convert to pcm.
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Re: Unfinished Work -- Your Thoughts Invited
« Reply #44 on: September 09, 2022, 12:36:07 pm »

Yes, that would be a nice option, like it is for usb.

You should be able to do what you want by setting up two different servers and using zone switch to pick the right one based on the sample rate. Not as good as having a direct option, but it might be an option.
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