Topic: QNAP Instructions and Questions (Read 118470 times)

JimH · « **on:** December 07, 2015, 09:50:53 am »

Media Center version 21.0.7 has been released onQNAP's App Center.

Download

Application Notes

JimH · « **Reply #1 on:** December 07, 2015, 10:55:54 am »

This version will require an MC21 Linux license or an MC21 Master License. It has a 30 day trial period.

Jdunbar · « **Reply #2 on:** December 07, 2015, 03:45:15 pm »

Chrome browser doesn't work in jriver on QNAP.
So purchased the license on a PC - now how do I convert that onto the NAS?

JimH · « **Reply #3 on:** December 08, 2015, 01:41:21 pm »

QNAP did a press release:

https://www.hardwareheaven.com/2015/12/qnaps-hd-station-adds-jriver-media-center-support-for-a-comprehensive-multimedia-experience/

bob · « **Reply #4 on:** December 08, 2015, 01:47:26 pm »

Quote from: Jdunbar on December 07, 2015, 03:45:15 pm

Chrome browser doesn't work in jriver on QNAP.
So purchased the license on a PC - now how do I convert that onto the NAS?

MC doesn't use the browser to install the license, that's just for a page of information displayed after the license is installed.
You could also install firefox which doesn't seem to have chrome's limitation.

Bazza · « **Reply #5 on:** December 08, 2015, 02:09:19 pm »

Until receiving the email notice today I had given up on using Media Center. I'll explain; I have a PS Audio DirectStream DAC with their new Bridge II streamer and have been streaming music files to it from a Synology NAS via Media Center. All files are processed except DSD which come as 24/192 files unless I check the DSD Bitstream box in the Advanced menu. Then it plays DSD as DSD but skips to the next track within 30 seconds. In fact, all files then skip to the next track within 30 seconds. I suspect that this is a PS Audio problem but I am now wondering if this QNAP is a solution or MC for Linux. Any advice would be appreciated. BTW, I read on one of the forums that JRiver has attempted to work with Synology on some sort of compatibility.

JimH · « **Reply #6 on:** December 08, 2015, 02:11:37 pm »

Using QNAP instead of Synology isn't likely to solve the problem.

I believe this must be your prior thread:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=91016.msg625594#msg625594

Bazza · « **Reply #7 on:** December 08, 2015, 03:00:38 pm »

Thanks for your reply and yes, that is my prior thread.

pinoyputi · « **Reply #8 on:** December 09, 2015, 09:54:33 am »

How about Synology?

maniac0r · « **Reply #9 on:** December 11, 2015, 05:21:52 pm »

Is there any chance to get MC running on QNAP TS-869PRO ?

HD Station 3.x is not available for this device (only older 2.x available), while JRMC21 requires 3.x .

I was hoping for DLNA audio-streaming to my networked DAC from MC, but got stuck on this ?

Hilton · « **Reply #10 on:** December 16, 2015, 02:14:13 am »

Quote from: JimH on December 07, 2015, 09:50:53 am

Media Center version 21.0.7 has been released onQNAP's App Center.

Download

Application Notes

Nice one guys! Missed this one.

bob · « **Reply #11 on:** December 17, 2015, 05:12:02 pm »

I'm hoping to get a new build posted to QNAP Friday (Dec 18th).

Patatorz · « **Reply #12 on:** December 20, 2015, 03:37:31 pm »

Hello I installed it with my master licence but i would say that i have problems to manage it with JRemote. The playlists created in JRemote and not seen in JRiver and Playlists in JRiver are not updated in JRemote.
I can play for few minutes but at one moment i loose connection and my playlist is becoming only 1 title....
I also had some alert message saying that I don't have the rights to write the setting parameters and at least when I create a DLNA DAC, I'm not able to remove it after.....

It seems that there is a lot of bugs right now...

BR

jikdoc · « **Reply #13 on:** December 26, 2015, 10:49:28 am »

my setup is working correctly, but i can't seem to bitstream JRiver to my SSP. i've set the bitstream option in audio but my receiver is reporting the signal as PCM

flowerking · « **Reply #14 on:** December 30, 2015, 05:58:12 pm »

Installed MC21 on my QNAP, very disappointed to see "Theater View" is not available!
As the app is getting installed to HD Station, the "media server" function is switching off once the app is closed (hence not really useful).

Normal view on HD Station is really trouble some to use & navigate.

Understandable as this is the first attempt, but need to enable "Theater View" to make the app useful.

cheadrick · « **Reply #15 on:** January 03, 2016, 04:59:35 am »

Hello JRiver,
Any chance we can have a native application for QNAP?
My NAS is in a completely different room from my stereo without a display/TV or keyboard.
It would seem more usable if we could access the application remotely instead of being physically attached.
Chip

Patatorz · « **Reply #16 on:** January 10, 2016, 07:41:10 am »

Hello, JRiver v21.0.28 seems to be available for qnap since January the 4th.
I'm not able to install the update. HD Station can see the update but when I launch JRIver it is tsill the 21.0.7

What Happen ? it seems that the first release has a versionning higher than the one published on Jan the 4th....

Even if i remove the previous version (saving my library) and i try to install the 21.0.28 it comes back to the 21.0.7

Thanks for your support

bob · « **Reply #17 on:** January 11, 2016, 10:53:18 am »

Quote from: Patatorz on January 10, 2016, 07:41:10 am

Hello, JRiver v21.0.28 seems to be available for qnap since January the 4th.
I'm not able to install the update. HD Station can see the update but when I launch JRIver it is tsill the 21.0.7

What Happen ? it seems that the first release has a versionning higher than the one published on Jan the 4th....

Even if i remove the previous version (saving my library) and i try to install the 21.0.28 it comes back to the 21.0.7

Thanks for your support

Is your HDStation up to date?
21.0.28 is using a newer package build that's from the latest HDStation.

Patatorz · « **Reply #18 on:** January 11, 2016, 10:57:08 am »

Hello,

according to my qnap information I run HD Station v3.1.0. I think it is the latest one.

So you confirm that JRiver 21.0.28 is newer than the 21.0.7 ?

bob · « **Reply #19 on:** January 11, 2016, 10:59:37 am »

Quote from: Patatorz on January 11, 2016, 10:57:08 am

Hello,

according to my qnap information I run HD Station v3.1.0. I think it is the latest one.

So you confirm that JRiver 21.0.28 is newer than the 21.0.7 ?

Definitely.
I'll try re-installing from the main site on our QNAP build box, normally we just install it through the browser.

Patatorz · « **Reply #20 on:** January 11, 2016, 11:05:19 am »

I will retry within few hours. I will restart the NAS before re-installing.

hsnopi · « **Reply #21 on:** January 11, 2016, 11:25:43 am »

What did you find on this? I'm very curious. I need a NAS and i want HTPC. IF this will handle JRiver as well that'd be great. Will you be doing transcoding?

Patatorz · « **Reply #22 on:** January 17, 2016, 03:06:54 am »

Ok, I desactivated and removed the 21.0.7, reinstall 21.0.28 from apkg after NAS reboot : it works fine.

@ hsnopi, I only use JRiver for music. But yes can transcode and read ISO DSD files for example.

Jdunbar · « **Reply #23 on:** January 26, 2016, 06:47:36 am »

What is different in 21.0.28 ?

bob · « **Reply #24 on:** January 26, 2016, 11:35:37 am »

Quote from: Jdunbar on January 26, 2016, 06:47:36 am

What is different in 21.0.28 ?

The change log is in a sticky post at the top of this forum. Look for the latest release (the base build has all of the linux specific changes and the post in the Windows forum has the general changes).

Jdunbar · « **Reply #25 on:** January 27, 2016, 11:13:45 am »

Unfortunately since the latest update on QNAP JRiver no longer starts!! Other users experience the same. When I start on HD-Station I see the wheel turning for a few seconds ... than it stops and nothing has happened. Any suggestions / updates?

Awesome Donkey · « **Reply #26 on:** January 27, 2016, 11:25:39 am »

Quote from: Jdunbar on January 27, 2016, 11:13:45 am

Unfortunately since the latest update on QNAP JRiver no longer starts!! Other users experience the same. When I start on HD-Station I see the wheel turning for a few seconds ... than it stops and nothing has happened. Any suggestions / updates?

Can you run MC from a Terminal in the QNAP OS to see what error(s) it pops out? Assuming there is a Terminal, of course.

Patatorz · « **Reply #27 on:** January 27, 2016, 11:30:27 am »

DId you try to relaunch HD station ?

Afrosheen · « **Reply #28 on:** January 27, 2016, 07:55:46 pm »

I'm also experiencing this. The issue started after HD Station was updated.

bob · « **Reply #29 on:** January 28, 2016, 11:02:25 am »

Quote from: Afrosheen on January 27, 2016, 07:55:46 pm

I'm also experiencing this. The issue started after HD Station was updated.

I'll update mine and check.

bob · « **Reply #30 on:** January 28, 2016, 12:01:50 pm »

Quote from: bob on January 28, 2016, 11:02:25 am

I'll update mine and check.

Works fine for me.
TS-251
Build 4.2.0 20160119
HybridDeskStation 3.1.2

Afrosheen · « **Reply #31 on:** January 28, 2016, 02:48:08 pm »

Hmm… well I uninstalled JRiver and then reinstalled it. It's working now. Not sure what caused the trouble here.

Jdunbar · « **Reply #32 on:** January 29, 2016, 12:28:36 am »

JRiver no longer starts

HS-251+
Build 4.2.0 20160119
HybridDeskStation 3.1.2

BradATIMA · « **Reply #33 on:** January 29, 2016, 09:38:18 am »

Quote from: Jdunbar on January 29, 2016, 12:28:36 am

JRiver no longer starts
HS-251+
Build 4.2.0 20160119
HybridDeskStation 3.1.2

Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling Media Center?

JWO · « **Reply #34 on:** January 29, 2016, 10:47:30 am »

Same here.
QNAP TS-453A 8GB with 4x3TB WD Red, connected through HDMI-out nr. 1 with a Denon X4000 receiver with HDMI control switched on and a TV connected to HDMI port no. 1 of the Denon.
FIrmware 4.2.1 MC 21.0.28

I have tried reinstalling MC and that seems to work, as long as I don't shut down the QNAP.
After shutting down and starting up the QNAP again, MC only launches after reinstalling again.
Very annoying and reason enough for not buying a MC license key yet.
Any ideas?

Gr.
JWO

Supplement 1-1-2016:
I noticed something strange. When I tried to save a logfile which I wanted to examine in order to see if I could find a reason for the problem I described, I saw that the name of the logfile holds the time and date.
The time however is one hour wrong. It is one hour earlier than the systemtime of my QNAP.
So when I set the systemtime one hour earlier (I couldn't find a way to change the timesetting of HD-station or MC) MC suddenly did start when tried to start it. Problem solved it seems.
Hopefully the real solution from JRiver will come soon now....
Gr.
JW

bob · « **Reply #35 on:** February 04, 2016, 11:34:21 am »

Quote from: JWO on January 29, 2016, 10:47:30 am

Same here.
QNAP TS-453A 8GB with 4x3TB WD Red, connected through HDMI-out nr. 1 with a Denon X4000 receiver with HDMI control switched on and a TV connected to HDMI port no. 1 of the Denon.
FIrmware 4.2.1 MC 21.0.28

I have tried reinstalling MC and that seems to work, as long as I don't shut down the QNAP.
After shutting down and starting up the QNAP again, MC only launches after reinstalling again.
Very annoying and reason enough for not buying a MC license key yet.
Any ideas?

Gr.
JWO

Supplement 1-1-2016:
I noticed something strange. When I tried to save a logfile which I wanted to examine in order to see if I could find a reason for the problem I described, I saw that the name of the logfile holds the time and date.
The time however is one hour wrong. It is one hour earlier than the systemtime of my QNAP.
So when I set the systemtime one hour earlier (I couldn't find a way to change the timesetting of HD-station or MC) MC suddenly did start when tried to start it. Problem solved it seems.
Hopefully the real solution from JRiver will come soon now....
Gr.
JW

That's very interesting.
The next scheduled release has a timezone fix.
Are you UTC +1 ??

JWO · « **Reply #36 on:** February 04, 2016, 11:41:25 pm »

Yes that's right, I'm from Holland.
Can you tell when the next release will be?
Gr.
JW

Jdunbar · « **Reply #37 on:** February 05, 2016, 02:28:05 am »

Hopefully to see a fix soon - really annoying with the current situation :-/

PaulI · « **Reply #38 on:** February 05, 2016, 12:39:19 pm »

I also seem to have the same problem. Once the NAS shuts down, MC will not run unless re-installed.

Also, does MC21 for QNAP allow theatre view? I couldn't seem to bring that up.

BradATIMA · « **Reply #39 on:** February 05, 2016, 01:31:46 pm »

Quote from: PaulI on February 05, 2016, 12:39:19 pm

Also, does MC21 for QNAP allow theatre view? I couldn't seem to bring that up.

Media Center 21 for QNAP does not have theater view.

PaulI · « **Reply #40 on:** February 05, 2016, 03:53:34 pm »

Quote from: BradATIMA on February 05, 2016, 01:31:46 pm

Media Center 21 for QNAP does not have theater view.

I guess I don't see the point then. The QNAP has an HDMI for direct connection to a HT screen or AVR. But there is no MC 10 foot interface to use with the QNAP. Is there some alternate 10 foot interface that can be used? Are you expecting to include one in a future build?

JimH · « **Reply #41 on:** February 05, 2016, 04:52:57 pm »

You can use another copy of MC to control the one on the QNAP.
http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Tremote

You can also use any of MC's remotes to control it.
http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Remotes

astromo · « **Reply #42 on:** February 06, 2016, 06:19:29 am »

For info, I've got a QNAP TS-653 Pro running QTS 4.2.0 and HD Station 3.1.2

1st point regarding licence registration that could help others coming along behind.
I worked out that I needed to use lower case for the registration code to be successfully recognised.

So, now I've got MC 21.0.28 successfully installed and registered. I can see an Event Notification in the NAS desktop or QTS from HD Station telling me that the MC installation was successful - just in case you're wondering whether I've got that bit off track.

Unfortunately, I didn't have HD Station set up for multi-tasking. This leads me to a 2nd point for QNAP Noobs like me.

2nd point - I'd suggest for others coming after me that in HD Station that the user navigate to:
Settings > General > Multi-tasking [Check]
If you don't (well this is what happened to me), if MC needs to bring up a web browser (such as during licence registration), then MC disappears (presumably shutdown ??), while the browser fires up.

This then leads me to my 3rd point, which has got me stuck. So, now with multi-tasking enabled and the NAS rebooted (not just an HD Station restart - I went the whole hog for good measure), I can now bring up multiple applications and there's a multi-tasking bar at the bottom of the screen. Unfortunately, when I double click on the MC icon, I see the Ubuntu style circle of patience fire up and then wait, wait, wait ... the circle disappears and ... nothing. ? This has got me stumped (for those outside the Commonwealth that's a cricket reference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dismissal_%28cricket%29#Law_39:_Stumped).

And a 4th point (if I could get there) ...
If I could get back into MC via HD Station, I'd also be querying what's the recommended practice for setting up folder importing. When I did have access to MC the folder import option brought up a Linux style folder structure and I couldn't readily spot the various folders that I can see in QNAP File Station under DataVol1. So, how do I set up the MC library on the QNAP to serve media files out to the network?

Apologies for not having more detail on this one. Probably missed something obvious but I need to deal with the 3rd point above to provide more intel on that score.

Thoughts? Assistance please?

Cheers

EDIT:
Self help for the 4th point - did miss the obvious being the post that opened this thread.

PaulI · « **Reply #43 on:** February 06, 2016, 10:57:26 am »

Quote from: JimH on February 05, 2016, 04:52:57 pm

You can use another copy of MC to control the one on the QNAP.
http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Tremote

You can also use any of MC's remotes to control it.
http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Remotes

Thinking that may work out, I tried it. I was successful getting Tremote set up to use the server's library on my wifi connected laptop. It seems to be working. Still, this gives me the QNAP view on the TV monitor which is pretty useless, along with a desktop view on my laptop to use for control. It just seems like it would be so much nicer to have that Theater view and not need the laptop. Perhaps I'll try to virtualize with a windows OS and run MC within that. But we need to get this "turn off" glitch taken care of ASAP.

bob · « **Reply #44 on:** February 08, 2016, 04:37:30 pm »

Working with QNAP on a new build that should fix the issue of MC needing to be re-installed for some people running the latest HDStation after rebooting the QNAP

astromo · « **Reply #45 on:** February 08, 2016, 09:30:28 pm »

Quote from: bob on February 08, 2016, 04:37:30 pm

Working with QNAP on a new build that should fix the issue of MC needing to be re-installed for some people running the latest HDStation after rebooting the QNAP

Thanks Bob. I'll keep an eye out for updates. Hope it's an easy one to sort out.

Patatorz · « **Reply #46 on:** February 09, 2016, 12:17:51 am »

Hello Bob, thanks for the support. I experienced the same problem after hd station update. Need to reinstall jriver 21.0.28

astromo · « **Reply #47 on:** February 09, 2016, 03:10:18 am »

Quote from: bob on February 08, 2016, 04:37:30 pm

Working with QNAP on a new build that should fix the issue of MC needing to be re-installed for some people running the latest HDStation after rebooting the QNAP

Quote from: Patatorz on February 09, 2016, 12:17:51 am

Hello Bob, thanks for the support. I experienced the same problem after hd station update. Need to reinstall jriver 21.0.28

Patatorz, from what I can make out from bob's advice is that reinstalling build 28 won't fix the issue if you reboot your QNAP. I think that we'll have to wait until bob & QNAP nut out a solution and issue a new build.

Patatorz · « **Reply #48 on:** February 09, 2016, 03:17:29 am »

JRiver 21.0.28 was not booting anymore after an update of the QNAP (system). Re-installing JRiver 21.0.28 helped me to recover JRiver

PaulI · « **Reply #49 on:** February 09, 2016, 10:16:20 am »

Just so I know going forward, in the event I do have to re-install MC because the NAS was shutdown, is there a way to preserve all the MC settings on the new install? QNAP only seems to offer the option to remove or disable meaning you have to completely remove and then reinstall.

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