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[cncb]

I am unlikely to implement some kind of "cache ahead" feature anytime soon due to the complexities it would introduce.  Sorry.

[nitephlight]

tried to search the thread for this but unsuccessful.

i would like for Mo4Media to be able to scrobble successfully to last.fm. it is currently not detected as a supported player through apps like "Simple Last.fm Scrobbler" which is fine and understandable, but i am able to scrobble successfully using JRiver Gizmo app - it is indirect in that my library server counts a play on the Gizmo app as play and gets scrobbled through the actual server.

is there any way to replicate this behavior with MO4Media? thanks!!

[cncb]

is there any way to replicate this behavior with MO4Media? thanks!!

Go to Settings | Playback/Conversions.  The first item is "Update play count after playing".  Enable this, and it should have the same behavior as Gizmo.

[nitephlight]

Go to Settings | Playback/Conversions.  The first item is "Update play count after playing".  Enable this, and it should have the same behavior as Gizmo.

oh wow can't believe i missed that. thanks a ton!

[RoderickGI]

I am still having trouble getting Gizmo to connect to the MC Server on my Workstation. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. Mostly it doesn't. It seems quite random though.

However, if I just open PingTools on my phone, and do nothing else with it, then immediately after try to connect with Gizmo, it always works. Always.

Gizmo also always connects to my HTPC MC Server. Always. But it is running an earlier version of MC. MC25.0.73 I think.

So something is different between the two setups. But I have found nothing obvious. I have allowed for all the disk spin down, network NIC sleeping, etc. issues mentioned above.

I suspect there is a MC Server bug. When I open PingTools while viewing the server traffic in "Services & Plug-ins > Media Network", MC reports that PingTools calls from my phone to the server, running a http GET DeviceDescription.xml command. That is enough for Gizmo to connect. That could still a Norton for Mobile security software issue, but it looks like a MC issue more.

Maybe something has changed so that your phone loses its http connection to the server, and hence playback stops. Careful analysis with Wireshark may show that, if you know how to identify a lost connection. Or a closed connection. The caching in Gizmo may simply be allowing a new connection to be created before playback stops.

[DJLegba]

Not sure if this is a recent problem, but it's affecting the current version. If the DLNA zone you were playing to is offline when you start the app, it's impossible to change to a different zone.

[RoderickGI]

Not sure if this is a recent problem, but it's affecting the current version. If the DLNA zone you were playing to is offline when you start the app, it's impossible to change to a different zone.

I have noticed that the timeout to failure to connect is quite long, but I haven't had it completely get stuck.

I think a user should be able to tap the "Connecting" message area and stop the connection attempt though. This issue delayed a lot of my testing a while back.

[cncb]

Not sure if this is a recent problem, but it's affecting the current version. If the DLNA zone you were playing to is offline when you start the app, it's impossible to change to a different zone.

Sorry, I am not seeing this.  In my testing when it starts up, it will switch to the first zone ("Player" by default) if the last-playing DLNA zone is not available.  I can then select whatever zone I want in the usual way.

[DJLegba]

Sorry, I am not seeing this.  In my testing when it starts up, it will switch to the first zone ("Player" by default) if the last-playing DLNA zone is not available.  I can then select whatever zone I want in the usual way.

Android 9 on a Pixel 2 if that helps.

[cncb]

Android 9 on a Pixel 2 if that helps.

Works for me in Android 9.  Do you have a standard/always available MC zone that is displayed in the beginning of the zones list or just DLNA zones?

[DJLegba]

Works for me in Android 9.  Do you have a standard/always available MC zone that is displayed in the beginning of the zones list or just DLNA zones?

Player? It's always there. But if I've been playing to the MuSo Qb, and then start MO 4Media when the Qb is not online, the zone list never populates.

[cncb]

Player? It's always there. But if I've been playing to the MuSo Qb, and then start MO 4Media when the Qb is not online, the zone list never populates.

So, it starts up and connects to the server successfully but just shows an empty list when you tap to show the zones?  What label does it have for the zone at the top right?

[DJLegba]

So, it starts up and connects to the server successfully but just shows an empty list when you tap to show the zones?  What label does it have for the zone at the top right?

Correct. The zone at the top right is blank. When I try to select a new zone the list is empty.

[cncb]

Correct. The zone at the top right is blank. When I try to select a new zone the list is empty.

I'm not sure why the default zone is not being selected for you, but I will try to make it so that you can at least select a different zone when this happens.  Thanks.

[DJLegba]

I'm not sure why the default zone is not being selected for you, but I will try to make it so that you can at least select a different zone when this happens.  Thanks.

II was just going to add that if I tell the app to go offline, then reconnect to the MC server, it shows the Mu-so zone on the top right (although the Mu-so is not on the network). After a little bit the zone goes blank, as above.

[cncb]

II was just going to add that if I tell the app to go offline, then reconnect to the MC server, it shows the Mu-so zone on the top right (although the Mu-so is not on the network). After a little bit the zone goes blank, as above.

Strange.  When you start up the app is the zone top-right area completely blank (no zone label or icons)?  When you display the zone list does it come up as an empty list or do you get the animated spinning icon that doesn't go away?

[DJLegba]

Strange.  When you start up the app is the zone top-right area completely blank (no zone label or icons)?  When you display the zone list does it come up as an empty list or do you get the animated spinning icon that doesn't go away?

I think it's usually the last zone icon, at least for a little bit. I do get the animated spinning icon that never goes away.

I tried this with a Chromecast Audio device, and right away the app told me the CCA was offline and I should select a new zone - and the zone list was populated. But with my Mu-so DLNA device it behaves as I've described earlier in the thread. I haven't tried it with an MC client as the zone.

[cncb]

v1.6.4 is now available (see 2nd post).

[hoyt]

I noticed tonight that the TV version doesn't seem to support an SSL connection.  I blocked 52199 on my server to test something else and MO4 stopped connecting from my Shield.  I changed the server address to internal_ip:52200, and it didn't connect.  But when I unblocked 52199 and changed it to internal_ip:52199, it connected just fine.

Thanks!

[cncb]

I noticed tonight that the TV version doesn't seem to support an SSL connection.

I am able to directly specify my SSL port and it is connecting fine.  What version of MC are you running on your server (you reported that SSL is not working in the latest MC builds)?

[hoyt]

I am able to directly specify my SSL port and it is connecting fine.  What version of MC are you running on your server (you reported that SSL is not working in the latest MC builds)?

Hmmm, I rolled back to .85 because of that issue and MO4Media connects fine from my phone to 52200, I can load panel on that, but the ATV wasn't.  I just noticed in my MO4Media app on my phone that if I try internal_ip:52200 it also does not work, but external_ip:52200 does.  That doesn't make any sense to me.  I setup a new VLAN recently to try a more secure guest network, but I just checked and nothing is setup to use it, and there are no DNS leases tied to it.  If that were a problem though, I would expect that 52199 would also be a problem.

I'll try changing my shield to external_ip:52200 instead of internal_ip:52200 and test in the next hour or so.

EDIT: I'll need more time to tinker with this.  I just changed it to external_ip{via FQDN}:52200 and it didn't work, but neither did external_ip{via FQDN}:52199, so there must be something else going on with the network settings on my shield.  Maybe I need to try the raw external IP...

[hoyt]

I think I know what's happening.  I have a FQDN and an SSL cert from Lets Encrypt, tied to that domain name.  When I enter my.external.ip.address:52200 in Chrome, I get a certificate error.  When I enter my.internal.ip.address:52200 in Chrome, I also get a certificate error.  If I enter my_fully_qualified_domain_name.com:52200 in Chrome, it works because my certificate is issued under my_fully_qualified_domain_name.com. 

So perhaps my issue has always been that the ATV version sees a certificate error and stops me from connecting and that it doesn't resolve the FQDN.

Does that seem plausible? 

[cncb]

You should see the same behavior with ATV and mobile.  I think you do have to use the FQDN to allow a connection with your custom certificate.

[hoyt]

You should see the same behavior with ATV and mobile.  I think you do have to use the FQDN to allow a connection with your custom certificate.

Ha - I see what happened.  I entered a FQDN as my.domain.com, then the ATV keyboard function magically put spaces after the dots.  So it became my. domain. com.  I just retyped it, then deleted the spaces and now it connects.  User error!

[cncb]

Glad you got it sorted out.  Just curious, is this to prepare to use outside of your local network?  Otherwise, it seems like you probably don't want to use SSL.

[hoyt]

Glad you got it sorted out.  Just curious, is this to prepare to use outside of your local network?  Otherwise, it seems like you probably don't want to use SSL.

The idea crossed my mind at some point to bring my Shield with me if I wanted to, but really this occurred because I want all of the services to run on SSL and not pass the authentication to my MC server insecure.  My home network is "secure-ish" but I always prefer to keep things that include passwords to be sent via SSL/TLS.

[cncb]

My home network is "secure-ish" but I always prefer to keep things that include passwords to be sent via SSL/TLS.

I see.  You probably know this but this will cause your media to be streamed over the internet instead of locally which might eventually impact data caps if you have them.

[hoyt]

I see.  You probably know this but this will cause your media to be streamed over the internet instead of locally which might eventually impact data caps if you have them.

Validating the certificate happens outside of my network, but the streaming of the media itself does not.  My FQDN resolves itself on my router to an internal IP.

[cncb]

v1.6.5 is available which adds support for adding multiple files to playlists and playlist editing.

[Noobman]

v1.6.5 is available which adds support for adding multiple files to playlists and playlist editing.

Playlist editing, best thing since sliced bread. Thank you! 

[cncb]

Playlist editing, best thing since sliced bread.

Thanks.  I appreciate hearing something is liked rather than not working right .

[JimH]

Thanks.  I appreciate hearing something is liked rather than not working right .

+1

[Awesome Donkey]

Oh man, it's VERY much appreciated. Many times I've had to redo playlists because I missed them up, hahaha.

[Ekpen]

Greetings.
I have on 5 Sony TV. 1.64 connecting with no issues, then I uninstalled 1.64, upgraded to 1.65,unable to connect.
Today, a brand new Sony 85 - 950g came in. MO4media failed to respond to the "Connect" menu.
George.

[cncb]

I have on 5 Sony TV. 1.64 connecting with no issues, then I uninstalled 1.64, upgraded to 1.65,unable to connect.

There is no need to uninstall first, but I just tried this on my NVidia Shield TV and it connects fine.  Make sure the server is available (can connect with the access key from other devices) and make sure the access key and credentials were entered correctly.

[Ekpen]

There is no need to uninstall first, but I just tried this on my NVidia Shield TV and it connects fine.  Make sure the server is available (can connect with the access key from other devices) and make sure the access key and credentials were entered correctly.

A sony 85 incher came in, and I tried to config Mo4media, the connect button will not respond.
Then I went to a Sony 930D 2017 tv, that as MO.4media 1.6.4, uninstalled, then installed 1.6.5. Same effect, the connect button will not respond. I still have 4 or more Sonys with 1.6.4 that can connect to the server with no issue.
If the credentials are wrong, at least, it will try to connect when I hit the "connect" button. No response at all, from the new 85 inch 950g and the old 930D.
I have used my internal IP at one point to do this, then later tried  the Access key.

I have also rebooted the sev toer several times, with no luck.
Please check the little code that fires up  when you click on "connect"/
Thanks.
George.

[Ekpen]

This is an update to this issue reported by me.
It is resolved now.
The problem was the on screen keyboard on the Sony Bravia has a fluke, not accepting my keys properly.
This was similar to my Samsung Galaxy note 3 with different types of keyboards and with options to "auto complete or auto suggest", certain phrases. I was unable to configure my JRemote in 2015 when it got released initially.
I had to turn these options "off" as they tend to add extra characters.
Now the new Sony Bravia has accepted my credentials for setting up MO4media.
Thanks.
George.

[Jedai]

Hello!
My task is not quite ordinary. Is there a way using the control from Android Auto to output sound not to the car radio, but through the audio device of the computer running MC?
I have a small PC in the trunk of the car on which the MC is installed and I would like to use Android Auto only as a control, and take the sound stream from the PC for sound amplifiers.
Any ways, thank you in advance!

[cncb]

Is there a way using the control from Android Auto to output sound not to the car radio, but through the audio device of the computer running MC?

Sorry, there is no feasible way to do this with Android Auto at this time.

[Jedai]

Sorry, there is no feasible way to do this with Android Auto at this time.

Sadly, I was hoping so. Thanks for the quick response!

[smarties]

Really like this app - it's pretty much the perfect android remote for JRiver as far as I'm concerned.  Having the playlist and playing now displays on a single screen is such a great idea!

Am having an issue with authentication however - I am having trouble with being able update song ratings from the app.

MC version is v 25.0.95 64 bit on Windows 10

I have authentication enabled on Media Server (to restrict write access only to me)
I have "Read Only Authentication" set to "Everyone" on Media Server (to allow other clients in the house easy read-only access so I don't have to bother with the hassle of usernames & passwords)
I have set up my write access credentials in the MO 4Media app but these seem to be ignored when the app starts up - i.e. it connects as read-only so when I try to update a song rating I get the error "Failed to set rating - Check you have write access to the library"

This behaviour doesn't happen in another JRiver client (eos), so hope it can be fixed.

As for features I'd love it if you could swipe between the Playing Now, Library and Search tabs (I keep trying to do this - a habit I've picked up from other music apps), and a few more options for configuring colours for individual interface elements (top menu bar, library text background etc) would be great.

Otherwise very happy with the app - great job!

[cncb]

I have set up my write access credentials in the MO 4Media app but these seem to be ignored when the app starts up - i.e. it connects as read-only so when I try to update a song rating I get the error "Failed to set rating - Check you have write access to the library"

I don't have control in how it authenticates and it seems to use "Everyone" by default if both exist (Panel seems to behave the same).  The easiest way to get around this is to just set a short, simple username and password for the read-only account and then it will authenticate based on the credentials you use.  Sorry, I know you don't want to deal with credentials everywhere but it seems to be necessary.

I will consider your feature requests.  Thanks.

[smarties]

I don't have control in how it authenticates and it seems to use "Everyone" by default if both exist (Panel seems to behave the same). 

Are you sure ?  I've just tried Panel via my laptop browser and it works as expected - I authenticate with my "write access" credentials and can update ratings etc

And like I said the other JRiver client app (Eos) I use behaves correctly too, which seems to point the finger at your app ?

Can you double check again ?
Thanks

[cncb]

Are you sure ?  I've just tried Panel via my laptop browser and it works as expected - I authenticate with my "write access" credentials and can update ratings etc

Yes, if I have write credentials and "Everyone" enabled, Panel never asks for credentials and automatically logs in as read-only.  Use the "Incognito mode" of your browser each time to see how it behaves after you change the read-only settings in MC (otherwise cookies are somehow probably used to remember the last authentication).  I just checked and Gizmo behaves the same way.

Edit: I will try to see if the JRiver crew can change this behavior on their end.

[smarties]

Edit: I will try to see if the JRiver crew can change this behavior on their end.

Many thanks

[cncb]

As for features I'd love it if you could swipe between the Playing Now, Library and Search tabs (I keep trying to do this - a habit I've picked up from other music apps), and a few more options for configuring colours for individual interface elements (top menu bar, library text background etc) would be great.

I think I have figured out how to fix the authentication issue on my end, so that should be fixed in the next release.

Unfortunately, I won't be able to implement the swipe between tabs at this time.  Regarding colors, the top bar and library list text colors are specified by the "Accent" color.  Were you looking for separate color settings for the Tabs bar and list text?

[smarties]

I think I have figured out how to fix the authentication issue on my end, so that should be fixed in the next release.

Great news - many thanks for investigating.

Regarding colors, the top bar and library list text colors are specified by the "Accent" color.  Were you looking for separate color settings for the Tabs bar and list text?

Mainly it would make sense to have separate colours for the top title bar and accent text (currently both defined by "Accent").  Generally I prefer a dark theme, and so for good legibility track titles and artist names both need a light text in the playing now page but this then makes the text on the title bar a bit difficult to read.

And yes different colour options for the Tabs bar (and library browsing text background) would be great - ideally I'd like to browse the library and just see artist/album/playlist names without the background coloured blocks (i.e. plain white text on black background) but I am being picky !

But thanks for the support - app is working great.

[cncb]

And yes different colour options for the Tabs bar (and library browsing text background) would be great - ideally I'd like to browse the library and just see artist/album/playlist names without the background coloured blocks (i.e. plain white text on black background) but I am being picky !

Currently, the unselected tab color is specified by the "Buttons" color so I think I will keep that as is and add a new "accent text" color that will be used for the selected tab (and text currently using the Accent color). I assume by "background colored blocks" in the library list you are referring to the colored item separator lines.  If so, I might be able to add an option to hide those.

[smarties]

Currently, the unselected tab color is specified by the "Buttons" color so I think I will keep that as is and add a new "accent text" color that will be used for the selected tab (and text currently using the Accent color).

That would be perfect.

I assume by "background colored blocks" in the library list you are referring to the colored item separator lines.  If so, I might be able to add an option to hide those.

Sorry "background coloured blocks" probably wasn't very clear!   I'm referring to the text background colour of items when viewing the library in "grid" mode (i.e. not as a list).  These currently have the same colour combination of Buttons, and are white text on blue background if you use one of the default colour schemes.  I don't find that particularly readable and would like to be able to either specify that text background colour separately or get rid of it completely (i.e. so just have the standard text colour on whatever background colour you've chosen (so in my dark theme it would be white text on a black background)

Hope that makes sense and thanks for the support!

[KeekUras]

Hello! I just snagged a trial of MO 4Media so I could use this on NVIDIA Shield  Works great with music but I've hit a snag if a video has an eac3 audio track. I've tried adding that to the settings for conversion and also used * but when I play the video, it shows no audio track. The file plays fine in VLC, Plex via Browser or PMP. Any suggestion on what else I could try?