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DSD 256
« on: September 01, 2015, 05:02:59 am »
DSD256 DoP

A few DACs I know of, now supporting DSD256 via DoP:

Auralic Vega (v1 with manufacturer upgrade or stock v2)
Ayre DX-5 DSD
ARTT Labs ADEA-I DSD DAC
Audia Flight FLS1 Preamp/DAC
Audiobyte Hydra X
Bright Tone BT-NMP-01s
Bryston BDA-3 DAC
Cary Audio DAC 200ts
Cary Audio DMC-600 Music Center
Cary Audio DMC-600SE Music Center
Cary Audio TL-300d Preamp/DAC
Chord Electronics Dave Headphone Amp/DAC
Clones Audio Asher DAC
Cyenne Audio CY 5100 DSD Mk II
DiDiT DAC212
Esoteric K-03X SACD Player/DAC
Esoteric K-05X SACD Player/DAC
Esoteric K-07X SACD Player/DAC
exaSound Audio Design e12
exaSound Audio Design e22 Mark II
exaSound Audio Design e28 Mark II
Fore Audio DAISy1
Gryphon Audio Designs Diablo 300 Int Amp
Gryphon Audio Designs Kalliope DAC
iFi Nano iDSD Headphone Amp/DAC
iFi Micro iDAC2 Headphone Amp/DAC
iFi Micro iDSD Headphone Amp/DAC
iFi Retro Stereo System
Lampizator Golden Gate DAC
LKS Audio MH-DA003
LKS Audio MH-DA002
Merging Technologies NADAC Multichannel-8
Merging Technologies NADAC Stereo
Metronome Technologies C8+ DAC
MSB Technology Analog DAC
MSB Technology Diamond DAC IV Plus
MSB Technology Diamond DAC IV Select
MSB Technology Platinum DAC V Diamond
MSB Technology Platinum DAC IV Plus
MSB Technology Select DAC
MSB Technology Signature DAC IV Plus
Mytek Digital Manhattan DAC
North Star Design Intenso
NuPrime IDA-8 Integrated Amp/DAC
NuPrime IDA-16 Headphone Amp/DAC
NuPrime DAC-10
NuPrime DAC-10H Headphone Amp/DAC
NuPrime uDSD Headphone Amp/DAC
Oppo HA-1 Headphone Amp/DAC
Oppo HA-2 Mobile Headphone Amp/DAC
Parasound Halo Integrated Amp/DAC
Pop-Pulse ES 9018
Ratoc Systems RAL KEB-02iP Premiere Edition
Ratoc Systems RAL KEB-03 Premiere Edition
Rockna WaveDream
Simaudio Moon Neo 230HAD Amp/DAC/Preamp
Simaudio Moon Neo 280D
Simaudio Moon Neo 380D
Simaudio Moon Neo 430HA Amp/DAC
Simaudio Moon Neo 780D
Sonore Rendu SPDIF/i2s
Sound Magic Serenade Pro DAC
T+A MP 3000 CD Player/DAC/Streamer
Teac UD-503 DSD Headphone Amp/DAC
YSDZ DA-03
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Re: DSD 256
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2015, 08:16:03 am »
Next build:
NEW: Added the output format "Encode as 4xDSD in DoP format" for 4x DoP delivery.
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Re: DSD 256
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2015, 06:24:04 am »
BOOM, thanks Matt as usual.
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Re: DSD 256
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2015, 06:26:10 am »
It's in the build available now.  Feedback appreciated because we don't have a 4x DoP device, so we just had to implement it and hope it was done right.
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Re: DSD 256
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2015, 06:28:37 am »
Might take a bit for myself since I have to factory upgrade my DAC, but I will ping other Vega users to try it and post here.
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Re: DSD 256
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2016, 03:42:42 am »
Matt I see there is DoP DSD256 in the Dec 10th build? How is that different from what was implemented back in Sep? Was it just ASIO DSD256 then?

FYI - There is a new firmware for iFi micro iDSD for Windows, and DoP256 is working well in MC.

I'll test my Vega when it gets back with DSD256, but so far so good.

I may try the iDSD using SPDIF via ASIO for 8x DSD and see how it performs.
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Re: DSD 256
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2016, 03:53:26 am »
Quote from: Matt on September 01, 2015, 08:16:03 am
Next build:
NEW: Added the output format "Encode as 4xDSD in DoP format" for 4x DoP delivery.

You guys need to add an option to control the conversion if the DAC support DSD 64 as an only option
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Re: DSD 256
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2016, 07:47:49 am »
Quote from: michael123 on January 02, 2016, 03:53:26 am
You guys need to add an option to control the conversion if the DAC support DSD 64 as an only option

It's there, unless I misunderstand your point.

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Re: DSD 256
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2016, 12:58:53 pm »
5 months ago I sent in my Vega for the DSD256 upgrade. There is STILL no driver that works with JRiver. Auralic tech support keeps lecturing me on the nuances of software players, but I'm confused because imo MC should work fine unless there is something they are doing radically different with this native DSD playback.

I can use MC to play DSD256 and 512 native over USB to my iFi DAC.....I am using the correct settings  (and trying every possible setting) for native DSD over USB....The Vega times out with an error.

Any thoughts?

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Re: DSD 256
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2016, 01:05:10 pm »
I will send the log full zip file with logs.


Device: AURALiC USB Audio 2.0 ASIO Driver (0 channel shift)
Buffer Type: 33 (65536 samples)
Output Format: 1411200 kHz - 2 channels
Post Output Ready: 0
ASIOStart Return Value: 0 (should be 0)
Plugin Open Return Value: 0 (should be 0)
Buffer 0 Pointer: 424476672
1966703: 396: Playback: CASIOPlugin::Open: ASIO result (0 is success): 0
1966703: 396: Playback: CASIOPlugin::Open: Finish (187 ms)
1966703: 2112: Playback: CWaveOutBin::CreateBin: Finish (203 ms)
1966703: 2112: Playback: CMJWaveFeeder::Thread: Preparing to feed data
1966703: 5624: Playback: CWaveOutBinPlayThread::Thread: Start
1966703: 2112: Playback: CMJWaveFeeder::Thread: Memory playback: 0; Maximum play buffer bytes: 1073741824; Grow by bytes: 134217728; System available bytes: 4294967295
1966703: 2112: Playback: CMJWaveFeeder::Thread: Running feeder loop
1966703: 2112: Playback: CPlayerZone::OnNewStream: Start
1966703: 2112: Playback: CPlayerZone::OnNewStream: Finish (0 ms)
1966766: 3744: Playback: CPlayerZone::Stop: Start
1966766: 3744: Playback: CPlayerZoneDisplayInfoUpdateThread::Destructor: Start
1966766: 3792: Playback: CPlayerZoneDisplayInfoUpdateThread::Thread: Finish (344 ms)
1966781: 3744: Playback: CPlayerZoneDisplayInfoUpdateThread::Destructor: Finish (15 ms)
1966781: 3744: Playback: CPlayerZone::Stop: Checking for not loaded playback engine
1966781: 3744: Playback: CPlayerZone::Stop: Firing stop to playback engine
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Re: DSD 256
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2016, 01:10:19 pm »
What happens if you check DSD bitstream in DoP format, then enable DSD bitstreaming? Does it work then?
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Re: DSD 256
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2016, 01:16:11 pm »
No luck.

I thought it had to be native. Anyway, it results in the same pulsing where the DAC flashes DSD256 and then MC times out...
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Re: DSD 256
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2016, 01:37:19 pm »
Auralic is having trouble with UPnP lately:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=102338.msg721992#msg721992

but I don't think you're using UPnP...

The only way we could help would be to borrow the equipment for a couple weeks.

Do other formats play with those settings?

I notice a 2.0 in the description of the driver.  Is that for USB 2.0?  Is it plugged into a USB 2.0 port on your computer?
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