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Excellent. Thanks so much for incorporating this Yaobing & team

I prepared four files and did some testing
1. Has Coordinates, Has Place Tags already
2. Has Coordinates, No Place Tags
3. No coordinates, Has Place Data
4. No coordinates, No Place Data

Currently MC can help me address 1 & 2.

Where existing data is in the Place fields, MC will update/over-write existing entries (as expected)
Overall seems to work very well with a few test files (have not tried in bulk noting the API issues!)
I have not seen any errors, just a few quirks and incosistency with how granular the location data is in Geocode

Agree some fields end up empty. I tagged some from a recent farmstay not far from a major city in Australia lat 153°7'0.27"E  long 27°57'9.93"S
  [Country] Australia
  [State] Queensland
  [City] empty
  [Sublocation] Boyland, Boyland Road

Sublocation: I am not sure how the API handles sublocation queries...
See above, has two entries. I'm guessing we are limited by how data is stored on the geocode site (preference above would be for 'Boyland' to be the City and 'Boyland Road' to be the sublocation.

For a file with lat 27°29'2.12"S & long 153°1'36.66"E
It gives me [Sublocation] South Brisbane,South Brisbane,Stanley Street,Queensland Children's Hospital
   Country = Australia, State = Queensland, City = Brisbane City as expected
All of the entries populated in Sublocation are correct, but it would generally be desired to have a single entry, or to comma delimit them (or even nest them if they are predictably hierarchical)?
I am not sure why  South Brisbane would be duplicated in the above example.
See 'Sublocation Tag.jpeg' attached
Another consequence of this is that there must be a character limit when Lightroom reads the IPTC location field (see truncated value in LR IPTC Fields.jpeg)
Otherwise all Country, State, City, Sublocation visible in LR IPTC as expected

Would you consider using \ as the delimited in [Places] such that it can be nested in views?

Some indicator that the query is occurring could be helpful eg in the status bar Eg 'updating location data file 1/4' etc

I agree with others that I would pay for a user API if this were available. Can sometimes have a thousand photos to tag at a time, not to mention a library of several hundred thousand I may be going back to Don't want to stretch the friendship and get MC banned. And obviously would like longevity and reliability of the service.

Next feature will be 'Add coordinates from Map' to address scenarios 3 & 4 above

Any reason not to direct users to register for their own API key and have MC use their own instead of a shared key? Even with the one second delay, you run the risk of hitting their limit once this version gets out into the hands of more users. Additionally, it would give users the flexibility of being able to pay for a higher tier key and geocode a higher volume of photos if they need to.

There is no reason, other than not knowing how the server intends this key to used.  I am implementing it for the next build.

i would like to do everything i am doing now but all in jriver in one shot. basically able to import music from a folder do all the tagging in jriver and then transfer to the folders.... unless i do this i make new folders like the scheme i have now. so i have 4 folders where the final files move to after being tagged and transferred by jriver. they are greek music, music, flac music, and flac greek.

I also have a directory tree structure that groups certain types and styles of music together.

What I did to accomplish that is create a custom field (tag) within Media Center. Call that new field something like "FOLDER_LOCATION".

That "FOLDER_LOCATION" field will be set to what folder that album belongs in.

In your case the FOLDER_LOCATION tag for the entire album would be set to Greek Music, Music, FLAC Music, or FLAC Greek.

Then use the value of that tag to set the name of that folder in your directory name rule in Media Center.

So your directory naming rule in Media Center would be something like "[Folder Location]\[Album Artist (auto)]\[Album]" plus an expression to account for Disc # for multi-disc albums. Otherwise multidisc albums will end up all in the same folder which gets confusing.

So I would use a directory naming expression more like "[Folder Location]\[Album Artist (auto)]\[Album]IfElse( !IsEmpty( [Disc #], 1 ), -PadNumber([Disc #],2))" to add the Disc # to the folder name if there is a Disc #.

Using "Album Artist (auto)" instead of just "Artist" will also help group the albums together better. Otherwise albums with multiple artists will end up in multiple folders and that's a mess.

MC has great tools and features to add custom fields (custom tags).
Tools >> Options... >> Library & Folders >> Manage Library Fields...

You can create custom fields (tags) that get saved to the files. Once those fields are written to the file they can also be read and edited in Mp3Tag (you'll have to go to "File >> Options.. >> Tag Panel" to add the new custom tag to Mp3Tag, but it very much can edit and display custom tags created in MC).

I would also suggest using the Rename, Move, & Copy Files dialog in MC to move and copy files you import to MC, instead of relying on the way the Auto Import is able to move files as it imports. The "Rename, Move, & Copy Files" dialog is much more powerful and includes an option for "Move all non-imported files in folder with selected media files". Which will copy over all other other files you have in the album folder, including log files, txt files, pdf files, jpg files, png files, and other files that should be copied over to the same folder that the album track files are. The Auto Import method does not do that. The "Rename, Move, & Copy Files" method can do that. The "Rename, Move, & Copy Files" dialog is the better way to move the files to your directory tree structure.

And before playing with any of these file moving suggestions. Do a mirror style backup of all of your music files to another hard drive. So you have a fresh backup. And then when trying any new move or copy rules in MC do a test on a few albums first to see if it works as you expect. Then try again on a few more albums before trying the new rules on the entire library. But most importantly, please have a current full backup of your music files on another drive before experimenting with these kinds of renaming and moving rules.

So... no new ideas? It feels like each party is pointing at the other to make a change.

If you use the MC built-in field of just [Country] and then create a custom view where that is the one category, as shown in the new attached picture.

For it to automatically group items underneath a top level (which can be whatever you want), you must tag it using the syntax I described in my prior post (and as shown in the 2nd pic).  You can use MC's various Library tools to copy existing data into different tags, as well as automatically adding a backslash to follow the top level category name you want to use.

This will take experimenting on your part to discover how to make it display exactly as you desire. Methodically test what I have described on a small group of files, and you will begin to understand how to make it work. After that, you can re-tag everything in a matter of minutes and have it display as I showed in the first pic of my prior post.

Using CTRL-J shows MC is up to date with 32.0.42. Manually updated and Windows Defender prevented running. Clicked through and installed.

I just ram Windows update and it updated the signature files. There is usually signature files like once or twice a day.

Just not sure about the tagging that you mentioned. All artists have already been tagged by country, and I can create a view for artists from those countries, but I don't see how to arrange all those views in the tree (e.g. 'Country Australia' and so on) under the view 'Artist Country'. In other words, thanks for taking the trouble with the pics, but I still can't create an 'Artist Country' view with the countries included as a sub-view of that.

not possible

Does anyone know if it is possible to apply a different skin or color scheme to the differenting screens in a split view?

Thanks

sorry, was in a rush......

this is my current process

there are files in competed which i then open in mp3tag, i remove tags on all files so that i only have id3 v2.3 tags on all files.

i make my artist album genre adjustments in mp3tag and save the files. i then move to the folder that i told jriver to import from. jriver imports to database and then moves to the main music folder in artist and album format.

is there a simpler way to do this and can it all be done in jriver?

My other question was, should i just put all the music in a new folder have jriver watch that folder to import and not move the files? all this is happening on my nas already.

what i was doing and am currently doing, is trying to keep things organize from outside of jriver.

when i open jriver my files will be organized, but if i am looking just through directory then everything is all over the place in one folder